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J*o*n*D*o*e wrote:im as off with todays result and team selection as most on here, but how many teams go a goal down then get reduced to 10 ten and go on to win the game.

The manager has alot to answer for but he didnt get us a player sent off.

Greavesie wrote:

bavlondon wrote:You could hear it in his voice he was welling up. I really want him to be the manager to left the league with us but I think maybe we have gone as far as we can under him. Could another manager do better with the same team? Who knows but now it looks like the players are not giving 100%.

to be honest Bav I honestly reckon a different manager wouldn't have Dossena, Lucas, Voronin and only one decent striker. Add to that the fact someone else could sort our little defensive woes as well. The team is currently littered with issues on the pitch its not even funny anymore

You know what the sad thing is. If we had spent as we should have in the summer: ie buying another established striker and 1/2 others, the league would have been there for the taking this year. Today will be utds 5th defeat and it's not even xmas yet.

shame this season is.

roberto green wrote:I think it would be unfair to mention him in the same breath as Houllier given what he has done for us and if he did leave he would leave us with a lot better players than houllier did.

However I do believe at long last that he has took us as far as he can.Give Kenny the job to the end of the season

by the way 3-0 to fulham

bavlondon wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

bavlondon wrote:You could hear it in his voice he was welling up. I really want him to be the manager to left the league with us but I think maybe we have gone as far as we can under him. Could another manager do better with the same team? Who knows but now it looks like the players are not giving 100%.

to be honest Bav I honestly reckon a different manager wouldn't have Dossena, Lucas, Voronin and only one decent striker. Add to that the fact someone else could sort our little defensive woes as well. The team is currently littered with issues on the pitch its not even funny anymore

You know what the sad thing is. If we had spent as we should have in the summer: ie buying another established striker and 1/2 others, the league would have been there for the taking this year. Today will be utds 5th defeat and it's not even xmas yet.

shame this season is.

shanklygates wrote:

roberto green wrote:I think it would be unfair to mention him in the same breath as Houllier given what he has done for us and if he did leave he would leave us with a lot better players than houllier did.

However I do believe at long last that he has took us as far as he can.Give Kenny the job to the end of the season

by the way 3-0 to fulham

oh dear, roberto first off we won 8 cups under Gh, and when we won the CL it was GH's team, also, when Gh took over we had the worst defence in europe, he turned it into the best, Gh finished 2nd with a points total that any other prem season up till that point would have won it, he also won a treble, my point is Gh deserves a lot of credit for putting liverpool back on the map.

Gh made bad signing but he also made some great ones, jerzy dudek, sami hyppia, stephane henchoz, and he also brought stevie into the team.

as for king kenny stop letting your heart rule your head he has been out the game management wise for over 10 years.

THEBARON wrote:

roberto green wrote:I think it would be unfair to mention him in the same breath as Houllier given what he has done for us and if he did leave he would leave us with a lot better players than houllier did.

However I do believe at long last that he has took us as far as he can.Give Kenny the job to the end of the season

by the way 3-0 to fulham

A valid point..

But are Dossena, Degen , Voronin , Lucas , Kuyt , Insua , Babel and Kyrgiakos

Really that much better than - Traore , Diao , Diouf , Biscan , Cheyrou and Baros ?

roberto green wrote:

shanklygates wrote:

roberto green wrote:I think it would be unfair to mention him in the same breath as Houllier given what he has done for us and if he did leave he would leave us with a lot better players than houllier did.

However I do believe at long last that he has took us as far as he can.Give Kenny the job to the end of the season

by the way 3-0 to fulham

oh dear, roberto first off we won 8 cups under Gh, and when we won the CL it was GH's team, also, when Gh took over we had the worst defence in europe, he turned it into the best, Gh finished 2nd with a points total that any other prem season up till that point would have won it, he also won a treble, my point is Gh deserves a lot of credit for putting liverpool back on the map.

Gh made bad signing but he also made some great ones, jerzy dudek, sami hyppia, stephane henchoz, and he also brought stevie into the team.

as for king kenny stop letting your heart rule your head he has been out the game management wise for over 10 years.

Yeah 8 cups mostly consisting of league cups and super league cups and charity shields no doubt thrown in there.I have respect for what Houliier did initially but he bought some of the worst players to ever put our shirt on and stuck with them.Wouldn't exactly call Jerzy Dudek "A Great signing" his only one I would give you is Sami.

All I said was if Benitez left us he would leave us with a much better team than Houllier did.As for kenny, I only said to the end of the season as he would come in fresh and no doubt pick the players up.

THEBARON wrote:Houllier's transfer record certainly had some signings..

But Hyypia , Henchoz , Hamann , McAllister and Finnan were all good signings in my view

bavlondon wrote:

THEBARON wrote:Houllier's transfer record certainly had some signings..

But Hyypia , Henchoz , Hamann , McAllister and Finnan were all good signings in my view

So are Torres, Mascherano, Reina and Benayoun mate.

shanklygates wrote:

roberto green wrote:

shanklygates wrote:

roberto green wrote:I think it would be unfair to mention him in the same breath as Houllier given what he has done for us and if he did leave he would leave us with a lot better players than houllier did.

However I do believe at long last that he has took us as far as he can.Give Kenny the job to the end of the season

by the way 3-0 to fulham

oh dear, roberto first off we won 8 cups under Gh, and when we won the CL it was GH's team, also, when Gh took over we had the worst defence in europe, he turned it into the best, Gh finished 2nd with a points total that any other prem season up till that point would have won it, he also won a treble, my point is Gh deserves a lot of credit for putting liverpool back on the map.

Gh made bad signing but he also made some great ones, jerzy dudek, sami hyppia, stephane henchoz, and he also brought stevie into the team.

as for king kenny stop letting your heart rule your head he has been out the game management wise for over 10 years.

Yeah 8 cups mostly consisting of league cups and super league cups and charity shields no doubt thrown in there.I have respect for what Houliier did initially but he bought some of the worst players to ever put our shirt on and stuck with them.Wouldn't exactly call Jerzy Dudek "A Great signing" his only one I would give you is Sami.

All I said was if Benitez left us he would leave us with a much better team than Houllier did.As for kenny, I only said to the end of the season as he would come in fresh and no doubt pick the players up.

again roberto i disagree.

Gh was in the eufa and he won it, he won every cup he could except league, the super cup is also a good cup to win cos it meant we beat the REAL european champions.
as for dudek he was brilliant in his first season, and without him rafa wouldnt have won the european cup either.
you say Gh signed some of the worst players we have ever had, have you not remembered some of rafa;s

kromkamp
josemi
pellegrino was dreadful
nunez is probably on a par with sean dundee as the worst ever
then you have voronin, so rafa hasnt exactly made the best signings either