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puroresu wrote:

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:

puroresu wrote:Nearly 23% say give Kuyt another season.  Thats madness.  Why are we ready to just give mediocre players more time even though they have had plenty and failed to impress.

Kewell was another player who people said give him more time.  Wait to he gets fit etc.  Yet year after year no improvement.  Kuyt has to go simple as that.  In England he should be at a mid table side.  His an average player with little attributes.  He works hard but so would I.  Just exactly what has he done to deserve another season?

He's covered ground that other players won't cover. He's found himself at right back because the likes of Pennant don't track back so Kuyt does it. Same on the left. He wins the ball back in important positions from a defensive point of view.

He's scored a couple of goals which isn't good enough, but it's because of him doing everyone elses donkey work why he's not scoring. When he's been in the box he's having chances.

This is coming from one of Kuyt's biggest critics as well. But I always see the good in people even if they're not good enough. I'd sell Kuyt personally but he does do a job for the club that not many people would be prepared to.

I would much rather have a player that doesnt track back but once given the ball they can do things which others can not than a limited player who's biggest attribute is working hard.

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:

puroresu wrote:Nearly 23% say give Kuyt another season.  Thats madness.  Why are we ready to just give mediocre players more time even though they have had plenty and failed to impress.

Kewell was another player who people said give him more time.  Wait to he gets fit etc.  Yet year after year no improvement.  Kuyt has to go simple as that.  In England he should be at a mid table side.  His an average player with little attributes.  He works hard but so would I.  Just exactly what has he done to deserve another season?

He's covered ground that other players won't cover.

Judge wrote:

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:

puroresu wrote:Nearly 23% say give Kuyt another season.  Thats madness.  Why are we ready to just give mediocre players more time even though they have had plenty and failed to impress.

Kewell was another player who people said give him more time.  Wait to he gets fit etc.  Yet year after year no improvement.  Kuyt has to go simple as that.  In England he should be at a mid table side.  His an average player with little attributes.  He works hard but so would I.  Just exactly what has he done to deserve another season?

He's covered ground that other players won't cover.

if thats the case then rafa needs to address that.

he shouldnt play out of position, he's a forward.

However, when he does get into position for a goalbound shot - its woeful majority of the time and some of his lay-off work leaves our lads short.

work the ball, not your own team

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:

puroresu wrote:

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:

puroresu wrote:Nearly 23% say give Kuyt another season.  Thats madness.  Why are we ready to just give mediocre players more time even though they have had plenty and failed to impress.

Kewell was another player who people said give him more time.  Wait to he gets fit etc.  Yet year after year no improvement.  Kuyt has to go simple as that.  In England he should be at a mid table side.  His an average player with little attributes.  He works hard but so would I.  Just exactly what has he done to deserve another season?

He's covered ground that other players won't cover. He's found himself at right back because the likes of Pennant don't track back so Kuyt does it. Same on the left. He wins the ball back in important positions from a defensive point of view.

He's scored a couple of goals which isn't good enough, but it's because of him doing everyone elses donkey work why he's not scoring. When he's been in the box he's having chances.

This is coming from one of Kuyt's biggest critics as well. But I always see the good in people even if they're not good enough. I'd sell Kuyt personally but he does do a job for the club that not many people would be prepared to.

I would much rather have a player that doesnt track back but once given the ball they can do things which others can not than a limited player who's biggest attribute is working hard.

So on your theory Mascheranho is a waste of space? All he does is track back and win the ball and work hard.

puroresu wrote:Kuyt is an attacking player who should be scoring and creating goals.  He is not v good at doing either but it seems cos he runs around all day like a headless chicken thats good enough.

woof woof ! wrote:

puroresu wrote:Kuyt is an attacking player who should be scoring and creating goals.  He is not v good at doing either but it seems cos he runs around all day like a headless chicken thats good enough.

Given the warmth with which Rafa hugged Kuyt around the neck at the end of the Bolton game, he apparently agrees' with you.

Judge wrote:

woof woof ! wrote:

puroresu wrote:Kuyt is an attacking player who should be scoring and creating goals.  He is not v good at doing either but it seems cos he runs around all day like a headless chicken thats good enough.

Given the warmth with which Rafa hugged Kuyt around the neck at the end of the Bolton game, he apparently agrees' with you.

perhaps rafa is psyching himself up to kill off our headless chicken for thanksgiving supper

puroresu wrote:

Judge wrote:

woof woof ! wrote:

puroresu wrote:Kuyt is an attacking player who should be scoring and creating goals.  He is not v good at doing either but it seems cos he runs around all day like a headless chicken thats good enough.

Given the warmth with which Rafa hugged Kuyt around the neck at the end of the Bolton game, he apparently agrees' with you.

perhaps rafa is psyching himself up to kill off our headless chicken for thanksgiving supper

No doubt Rafa likes Kuyt. Why people say "Rafa will get rid of the mediocre players like kuyt" in the summer I have no idea.  Kuyt could well be here next year if Rafa is still here as he clearly is a big fan.

Judge wrote:listen matey, i may have a laugh at my one or two liners, but i have great enthusiasm for LFC, and tbh, kuyt aint good enough - period. there you go - two lines

heimdall wrote:

puroresu wrote:

Judge wrote:

woof woof ! wrote:

puroresu wrote:Kuyt is an attacking player who should be scoring and creating goals.  He is not v good at doing either but it seems cos he runs around all day like a headless chicken thats good enough.

Given the warmth with which Rafa hugged Kuyt around the neck at the end of the Bolton game, he apparently agrees' with you.

perhaps rafa is psyching himself up to kill off our headless chicken for thanksgiving supper

No doubt Rafa likes Kuyt. Why people say "Rafa will get rid of the mediocre players like kuyt" in the summer I have no idea.  Kuyt could well be here next year if Rafa is still here as he clearly is a big fan.

As long as Rafa is manager we will have Kuyt playing week in week out, all hail the rafalution with its dependence on sh1t players.
Can you guys imagine how p1ssed off Crouch must be when Torres is subbed, actually a good move by Rafa, only to be replaced by Riise?? If I was him I would be so fecking annoyed at Rafa for not even giving me a chance whilst a complete waste of space striker like Kuyt is held in so much favour.

woof woof ! wrote:

puroresu wrote:Kuyt is an attacking player who should be scoring and creating goals.  He is not v good at doing either but it seems cos he runs around all day like a headless chicken thats good enough.

Given the warmth with which Rafa hugged Kuyt around the neck at the end of the Bolton game, he apparently agrees' with you.

Toffeehater wrote:

Judge wrote:listen matey, i may have a laugh at my one or two liners, but i have great enthusiasm for LFC, and tbh, kuyt aint good enough - period. there you go - two lines

Yes he and crouch are both not LFC material but get behind the lad will ya , he's done a better job in the last three games , scored a crcuial goal against milan to open the scoring .. He's been playing better and we can see that his confidence is up , so stop criticizing the lad will ya?

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Dirk Kuyt has a game to goal ratio of 3.65, so every three and a half games, he grabs himself a goal. Compare that to Torres who's ratio is less than 1.5 it doesn't make good reading but compared to Voronin's who's is above 5 games to score one goal, maybe we should give Kuyt a bit more credit.

Not going to happen

What happend GBJH ? Compared to let's say 4 months ago your getting soft towards Kuyt !!!!!! 

Anyway, what I've always said (even when he played in Holland) Kuyt is not a world class striker and he would be at his best behind Torres alongside of Gerard. He would be a pain in the a@s of the other side, make a lot of assists and will get his goal once in a while (more than a regular forward midfield player).

But then again I didn't become a manager