Dirk kuyt - What would you do with him?

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Dirk kuyt - What would you do with him?

Release on a free
2
1%
Sell for anything you can get
24
17%
Sell for £5m+
56
40%
Sell but only if a big (£10m) offer comes in
13
9%
Give him another season
37
27%
Keep playing him until he scores
7
5%
 
Total votes : 139

Postby maguskwt » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:38 pm

MR C wrote:if he had a better manager like ramos he actually might be ok.

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Postby beeker » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:59 pm

its clear the lads got no pace ,dosent take a senior scout to see it ,shouldve made him run 100 yards in the car park before they let the ugly tw@*t in ,scouting system has to be questioned on this one
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Postby Judge » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:27 am

Sabre wrote:Ok it was me  :D I'm a happy clappy after all.

will someone happy slap sabre and post the pictures up here  :D


as far as dirk is concerned, he runs around like a headless chicken. his shooting is cack, and passing just the same much of the time.

Bring David Villa to liverpool, and rid us of the dirk
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Postby dawson99 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:32 am

well i think in his last 2 or 3 games the guys done the job asked, and weve won them... cant ask for more than winning games and hes doing obviously what the manager wants.
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Postby Dutchsky » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:35 am

Kuyt is a good teamplayer.
But if Rafa keeps posting him right wing, he has not much use. Then all he can do is work his guts out.

But also, I have to say 60% of L'pool individual players aren't worldclass. But as a team L'pool is worldclass.
That's the difference.
So Kuyt is L'pool worthy.
And I'm convinced he is getting better again. And why not? His first season was good. (then again he was posted on his favourite position).

And I know englishmen prefer crouch because he is an englishman.
But when you look at the stats, Crouch and Kuyt don't differ very much:

Crouch:
2005/06 Liverpool 32 6 Premiership
2006/07 Liverpool 31 9 Premiership
2007/08 Liverpool 16 2 Premier League

Total competition games: 79
Total comp. goals: 17

Dirk Kuyt:
2006/07 Liverpool 34 12 Premiership
2007/08 Liverpool 24 3 Premier League

58 games and 15 goals
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Postby Judge » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:50 am

I prefer crouch. He hasnt figured as much as Kuyt (and im baffled by that), but the big long bean, i reckon, is a better choice as forward.

I'd rather play the runner bean, than the lookalike from the goonies
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Postby Toffeehater » Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:14 pm

MR C wrote:listen kuyt was never any good in the 1st place but so called experts in the media start saying that once he get used to the prem he will be a hit and start scoring a lot of goals, which mean he was missing many chances.

the reason they were saying this is because from a distance his record at feynoord looks impressive.

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he always got 20 league goals in holland,but at closer look his general play is very immature and lacks vision and skill. if he had a better manager like ramos he actually might be ok.

ramos better then rafa? sure , after beating chelsea , they got hammered 4 -1 by birmingham , ramos won the champions league? No all he won is the uefa cup which rafa won with valencia along with a league title , so saying that ramos is better then rafa is absolutely b0ll0x
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Postby stmichael » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:33 pm

I actually think Dirk Kuyt has played very well since shifting to this current formation and has become far more of a goal threat as a result. The role Rafa is asking him to play requires high workrate and the ability to get into the box when we attack, something Kuyt is doing very well at the moment.
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Postby Judge » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:41 pm

stmichael wrote:I actually think Dirk Kuyt has played very well since shifting to this current formation and has become far more of a goal threat as a result. The role Rafa is asking him to play requires high workrate and the ability to get into the box when we attack, something Kuyt is doing very well at the moment.

dont let your heart and head have different thoughts mate.

Kuyt aint good enough !

Why is it that the dutch players we sign over the years have not exactly been top notch at our club

Im not impressed with kuyt, as youve guessed, and i werent a fan of zenden either. Maybe we could sell kuyt to some halfwit outfit, such as EVERTON

IMO, both headless chickens that can run, but thats it. Sorry to say, there is better quality out there.

I reitterate - David Villa please sign for our club
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Postby Keris » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:51 pm

He may not be good enough.

I read an article, how the death of a close (inspirational) family member can have a diverse effect on an athletes form.

He did lose his father recently, maybe....maybe he deserve another year, even if its no. 3 in the pecking order.
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Postby Toffeehater » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:13 pm

Judge wrote:
stmichael wrote:I actually think Dirk Kuyt has played very well since shifting to this current formation and has become far more of a goal threat as a result. The role Rafa is asking him to play requires high workrate and the ability to get into the box when we attack, something Kuyt is doing very well at the moment.

dont let your heart and head have different thoughts mate.

Kuyt aint good enough !

Why is it that the dutch players we sign over the years have not exactly been top notch at our club

Im not impressed with kuyt, as youve guessed, and i werent a fan of zenden either. Maybe we could sell kuyt to some halfwit outfit, such as EVERTON

IMO, both headless chickens that can run, but thats it. Sorry to say, there is better quality out there.

I reitterate - David Villa please sign for our club

why don't u just shut up , haven't u posted over ur 2 lines limit?
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Postby Judge » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:36 pm

listen matey, i may have a laugh at my one or two liners, but i have great enthusiasm for LFC, and tbh, kuyt aint good enough - period. there you go - two lines
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Postby puroresu » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:51 pm

Nearly 23% say give Kuyt another season.  Thats madness.  Why are we ready to just give mediocre players more time even though they have had plenty and failed to impress.

Kewell was another player who people said give him more time.  Wait to he gets fit etc.  Yet year after year no improvement.  Kuyt has to go simple as that.  In England he should be at a mid table side.  His an average player with little attributes.  He works hard but so would I.  Just exactly what has he done to deserve another season?
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Postby god_bless_john_houlding » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:07 pm

puroresu wrote:Nearly 23% say give Kuyt another season.  Thats madness.  Why are we ready to just give mediocre players more time even though they have had plenty and failed to impress.

Kewell was another player who people said give him more time.  Wait to he gets fit etc.  Yet year after year no improvement.  Kuyt has to go simple as that.  In England he should be at a mid table side.  His an average player with little attributes.  He works hard but so would I.  Just exactly what has he done to deserve another season?

He's covered ground that other players won't cover. He's found himself at right back because the likes of Pennant don't track back so Kuyt does it. Same on the left. He wins the ball back in important positions from a defensive point of view.

He's scored a couple of goals which isn't good enough, but it's because of him doing everyone elses donkey work why he's not scoring. When he's been in the box he's having chances.

This is coming from one of Kuyt's biggest critics as well. But I always see the good in people even if they're not good enough. I'd sell Kuyt personally but he does do a job for the club that not many people would be prepared to.
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Postby puroresu » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:25 pm

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:
puroresu wrote:Nearly 23% say give Kuyt another season.  Thats madness.  Why are we ready to just give mediocre players more time even though they have had plenty and failed to impress.

Kewell was another player who people said give him more time.  Wait to he gets fit etc.  Yet year after year no improvement.  Kuyt has to go simple as that.  In England he should be at a mid table side.  His an average player with little attributes.  He works hard but so would I.  Just exactly what has he done to deserve another season?

He's covered ground that other players won't cover. He's found himself at right back because the likes of Pennant don't track back so Kuyt does it. Same on the left. He wins the ball back in important positions from a defensive point of view.

He's scored a couple of goals which isn't good enough, but it's because of him doing everyone elses donkey work why he's not scoring. When he's been in the box he's having chances.

This is coming from one of Kuyt's biggest critics as well. But I always see the good in people even if they're not good enough. I'd sell Kuyt personally but he does do a job for the club that not many people would be prepared to.

I would much rather have a player that doesnt track back but once given the ball they can do things which others can not than a limited player who's biggest attribute is working hard.
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