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Owzat wrote:

PabloAimar wrote:I think he's terrible and a waste of a lot of energy to be honest. Forget the stats; how many times last season were we breaking forward with pace only for his terrible control and/or lack of pace to break the whole move down. Sorry but I believe footballers should have more about them than just a willingness to work hard. Our right winger should have the guile to glide past players and create goal scoring opportunities at will; not work hard tracking back and chipping the ball in the air everytime it comes to him and then kneeing it and 10 minutes later still trying to figure out where it is.

Shame you can't see beyond the end of your nose or through some hatred of Kuyt because if you truly believe all he does is work hard then you truly are clueless, or simply refusing to register what he does during games.

And you clearly missed his assist in the last dutch game, but then it can't have happened because he never controls the ball and therefore must have lost possession just before he somehow crossed it. He didn't beat the defender for pace either, but he didn't need to, yet some seem to talk of that as if it is the be all and end all of playing out wide, or perhaps it's just Kuyt will never be quick and because that is his only real weakness then that is what the bashers have to focus on since noone can argue he is quick

I guess the dutch coach must be an idiot, what with the dutch persisting with Kuyt and as a consequence only reaching the final ffs

It is in England. Get a pacy lad to run to the byline and duff his cross out of play on the other side. Or dolly drop it into keepers hands.

Kuyt, for his technical faults is a very intelligent, willing player. Im working with quite a few dutch guys here in korea and they love the guy. Without him, Sneider, Robben etc cant perform. He's loved by them. Oh, and they all agree with me that Babel is one lazy mutha a. Never gone make the grade.

NANNY RED wrote:Cant believe some of the critisim that Dirk has warrented here joke or no joke , he has been outstanding one of Hollands best players in the tournament, he derserves all the accolades and repect he is warrented because he derderves it

PabloAimar wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

Scottbot wrote:

bigmick wrote:Also, he provides a bit of hard work balance for the more artistic players

And that's the thing with Kuyt. Those qualities REALLY come to the fore when you've got a handful of skillful, intelligent players playing around him, particularly as they also free up space for him to play. Put him in a side (as was the case for much of last year) with say, Masch and Lucas in the middle and Carra at RB and suddenly his weaknesses as a player really come to the fore.

I blow hot and cold on Deadly but i'd be gutted if he follows Rafa to Inter (which would not surprise me at all) and hopefully Hodgson can get the best out of him.

Out of all the players we have I would say Kuyt is prob the fav to follow rafa to inter followed by masher and both would be a massive miss and would leave a very big hole in the squad that would be hard to fill when you look at what they contributed to the team o er the years

W/re' kuyt... I've got the list of honours here and goals/assists stats since he joined us ...sorry, what contribution are you talking about?

PabloAimar wrote:They way you lot go on about him as if we'd only be allowed to field 10 men if we sold him. Somebody with more pace, better ability to control the ball, pass and beat a man and someone with a more intelligent footballing brain would replace him in the starting XI.

I think he's terrible and a waste of a lot of energy to be honest. Forget the stats; how many times last season were we breaking forward with pace only for his terrible control and/or lack of pace to break the whole move down. Sorry but I believe footballers should have more about them than just a willingness to work hard. Our right winger should have the guile to glide past players and create goal scoring opportunities at will; not work hard tracking back and chipping the ball in the air everytime it comes to him and then kneeing it and 10 minutes later still trying to figure out where it is.

PabloAimar wrote:They way you lot go on about him as if we'd only be allowed to field 10 men if we sold him. Somebody with more pace, better ability to control the ball, pass and beat a man and someone with a more intelligent footballing brain would replace him in the starting XI.

I think he's terrible and a waste of a lot of energy to be honest. Forget the stats; how many times last season were we breaking forward with pace only for his terrible control and/or lack of pace to break the whole move down. Sorry but I believe footballers should have more about them than just a willingness to work hard. Our right winger should have the guile to glide past players and create goal scoring opportunities at will; not work hard tracking back and chipping the ball in the air everytime it comes to him and then kneeing it and 10 minutes later still trying to figure out where it is.

Owzat wrote:

PabloAimar wrote:I think he's terrible and a waste of a lot of energy to be honest. Forget the stats; how many times last season were we breaking forward with pace only for his terrible control and/or lack of pace to break the whole move down. Sorry but I believe footballers should have more about them than just a willingness to work hard. Our right winger should have the guile to glide past players and create goal scoring opportunities at will; not work hard tracking back and chipping the ball in the air everytime it comes to him and then kneeing it and 10 minutes later still trying to figure out where it is.

Shame you can't see beyond the end of your nose or through some hatred of Kuyt because if you truly believe all he does is work hard then you truly are clueless, or simply refusing to register what he does during games.

And you clearly missed his assist in the last dutch game, but then it can't have happened because he never controls the ball and therefore must have lost possession just before he somehow crossed it. He didn't beat the defender for pace either, but he didn't need to, yet some seem to talk of that as if it is the be all and end all of playing out wide, or perhaps it's just Kuyt will never be quick and because that is his only real weakness then that is what the bashers have to focus on since noone can argue he is quick

I guess the dutch coach must be an idiot, what with the dutch persisting with Kuyt and as a consequence only reaching the final ffs

excuse me for giving an opinion. yes you're right - his only weakness is his lack of pace 

hatred of kuyt? - i actually think he seems a great guy, but i'm not keen on his style of play. from what i've seen over the past seasons, i find him hugely irritating as he breaks our own play down in the final 3rd. i honestly believe that if we had a decent 'traditional' pacey winger, they'd contribute all that kuyt does and more - what evidence do you have to suggest otherwise? no, i didn't think so - so get ur head out of ur ar5e and look beyond ur own nose.

mart wrote:

PabloAimar wrote:They way you lot go on about him as if we'd only be allowed to field 10 men if we sold him. Somebody with more pace, better ability to control the ball, pass and beat a man and someone with a more intelligent footballing brain would replace him in the starting XI.

I think he's terrible and a waste of a lot of energy to be honest. Forget the stats; how many times last season were we breaking forward with pace only for his terrible control and/or lack of pace to break the whole move down. Sorry but I believe footballers should have more about them than just a willingness to work hard. Our right winger should have the guile to glide past players and create goal scoring opportunities at will; not work hard tracking back and chipping the ball in the air everytime it comes to him and then kneeing it and 10 minutes later still trying to figure out where it is.

If you cant see that Kuyt is an important player for our team, you are the one in dire need of a more intelligent footballing brain.

PabloAimar wrote:

Owzat wrote:

PabloAimar wrote:I think he's terrible and a waste of a lot of energy to be honest. Forget the stats; how many times last season were we breaking forward with pace only for his terrible control and/or lack of pace to break the whole move down. Sorry but I believe footballers should have more about them than just a willingness to work hard. Our right winger should have the guile to glide past players and create goal scoring opportunities at will; not work hard tracking back and chipping the ball in the air everytime it comes to him and then kneeing it and 10 minutes later still trying to figure out where it is.

Shame you can't see beyond the end of your nose or through some hatred of Kuyt because if you truly believe all he does is work hard then you truly are clueless, or simply refusing to register what he does during games.

And you clearly missed his assist in the last dutch game, but then it can't have happened because he never controls the ball and therefore must have lost possession just before he somehow crossed it. He didn't beat the defender for pace either, but he didn't need to, yet some seem to talk of that as if it is the be all and end all of playing out wide, or perhaps it's just Kuyt will never be quick and because that is his only real weakness then that is what the bashers have to focus on since noone can argue he is quick

I guess the dutch coach must be an idiot, what with the dutch persisting with Kuyt and as a consequence only reaching the final ffs

excuse me for giving an opinion. yes you're right - his only weakness is his lack of pace 

hatred of kuyt? - i actually think he seems a great guy, but i'm not keen on his style of play. from what i've seen over the past seasons, i find him hugely irritating as he breaks our own play down in the final 3rd. i honestly believe that if we had a decent 'traditional' pacey winger, they'd contribute all that kuyt does and more - what evidence do you have to suggest otherwise? no, i didn't think so - so get ur head out of ur ar5e and look beyond ur own nose.