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by **bigmick** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:16 pm

ruskiy playmaker wrote:Should have never got rid of Riera. We are missing him so bad right now.

I wouldn't have got rid of him either if it was me. He was a good footballer, and when things aren't going well having a couple of those always seems to help.

by **tubby** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:18 pm

mart wrote:
Simari wrote:Roy is a genuinely good and kind man.

Who cares? I know many good and kind men that should not manage Liverpool. Should we give them all a try? It reeks of desperation when thats the best thing you can say about a football manager.

by **bigmick** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:21 pm

mart wrote:
Simari wrote:Roy is a genuinely good and kind man.

Who cares? I know many good and kind men that should not manage Liverpool. Should we give them all a try? It reeks of desperation when thats the best thing you can say about a football manager.

It's not really important in terms of judging how good a manager is. We spent years being told that Benitez was a good man, understood the fans and all that, but it's results that count.

by **mart** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:23 pm

bigmick wrote:It's easy though sometimes, too easy in fact, to lump it all on one player when the whole team, system and formation is malfunctioning.

You and quite a lot of others in here have been more than happy enough to blame it on Kuyt, Lucas, Rafa, zonal marking, rotation, hodgson, poulsen or whatever the latest scapegoat is.

Rafa had to go but the club needs a real fresh start and that wont happen with the current owners.

by **bigmick** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:28 pm

mart wrote:
bigmick wrote:It's easy though sometimes, too easy in fact, to lump it all on one player when the whole team, system and formation is malfunctioning.

You and quite a lot of others in here have been more than happy enough to blame it on Kuyt, Lucas, Rafa, zonal marking, rotation, hodgson, poulsen or whatever the latest scapegoat is.

Rafa had to go but the club needs a real fresh start and that wont happen with the current owners.

I agree with your second sentence but not the first. Please don't accuse me of being anti zonal-marking, I've had countless arguments with people on here about it and have been one of its biggest advocates. Similarly, I have ALWAYS said that a football team is the sum of hundreds of little factors, get too many of them wrong and it will have an effect on the whole.

I thought the principle reason for our underachievement last season was the utilisation of the Lucas/Masherano axis, but there were many other factors.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:15 pm

I am really concerned about Reina since Roys arrived over the years hes never hardly had anything to do, now his nerves are shot he's all over the place and his confidence is shot to pieces.
Hes no longer our sweeper he is coming out of the box an awful lot I dont like it one bit.
Hes one of the best keepers in the world but he's looking very very shakey this season.

Do we have a goal keeping coach? Or is it roy and his man from Fulham? Our coach that left was excellent and Reina oozed confidence with his coaching he doesnt look like the same goal keeper anymore. This is a major worry he deserves better than this.

by **redhayesy** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:52 pm

ruskiy playmaker wrote:Should have never got rid of Riera. We are missing him so bad right now.

really? don't agree there, if you went to the bolton game last season at home, you would know that everyone that day was p1ssed off with his attitude! he would wait for the ball to come to him every time, instead of going an meeting the ball especially when we were on the attack.

when we didn't have the ball he just hugged the touch line,not interested in what was going on around him. he was a lazy player, who just shugged his shoulders when a pass he had to bust a gut to make,blamed the player who was nearest to him. i don't miss him one bit, to inconsistant & wasn't prepared to fight for his place - reminds me of babel in so many ways,that i sincerly hope he follows the likes of riera out of the exit door come january imho.

by **tubby** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:53 pm

Xavi Valero? Yeah he was good, Jose Ochotorena was good too.

The website doesn't say who it is now. John Achterberg is the ressie GK coach. I guess it must be John McMahon?

by **redhayesy** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:01 pm

Ciggy wrote:I am really concerned about Reina since Roys arrived over the years hes never hardly had anything to do, now his nerves are shot he's all over the place and his confidence is shot to pieces.
Hes no longer our sweeper he is coming out of the box an awful lot I dont like it one bit.
Hes one of the best keepers in the world but he's looking very very shakey this season.

Do we have a goal keeping coach? Or is it roy and his man from Fulham? Our coach that left was excellent and Reina oozed confidence with his coaching he doesnt look like the same goal keeper anymore. This is a major worry he deserves better than this.

fair point ciggy, but you don't become a bad keeper overnight!
an i still say that if it wasn't for pepe we would have been well beaten by birmingham, don't you agree? he was awsome that day- 2 world class saves he made that day,wasn't just motm material, but reminded me how important he is to the side,when we are failing to cut out crosses on a regular basis. so i wouldn't question his nerves just yet.

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:04 pm

Terrible ,just fu.cking terrible. an if anyone trys telling me Poulson was a good buy . get to fu.cking spec savers

by **Ciggy** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:04 pm

7 passes to Torres today no wonder he got booked out of sheer frustration he will be off in january if we are not sold and results dont pick up.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:18 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Terrible ,just fu.cking terrible. an if anyone trys telling me Poulson was a good buy . get to fu.cking spec savers

He was dogsh!t today was made up when he went off.

by **europian-kings** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:08 pm

Just got back from the game.

Has a slash next to asamoah gyan on the way home in the service station, before he feasted on a kfc!!

Did anyone stay for the protest? I stayed in anfield road and after about 10 minutes, i could hear some of the stewards saying to eachother "lts get them to leave, i would like to get home today" etc....

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:26 pm

Ciggy wrote:I am really concerned about Reina since Roys arrived over the years hes never hardly had anything to do, now his nerves are shot he's all over the place and his confidence is shot to pieces.
Hes no longer our sweeper he is coming out of the box an awful lot I dont like it one bit.
Hes one of the best keepers in the world but he's looking very very shakey this season.

Do we have a goal keeping coach? Or is it roy and his man from Fulham? Our coach that left was excellent and Reina oozed confidence with his coaching he doesnt look like the same goal keeper anymore. This is a major worry he deserves better than this.

Any blind man could see the reason for Reina's lapses or continued need to come out is our defensive frailties.

Unfortunately Ciggy your lack of first hand knowledge (I.e. Actually playing the game competitively) puts you at a disservice. Like it was said before, you don't become bad overnight certainly not since a new coach has come.

Reina's moments of lapses have been no more prevalent that others.

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:31 pm

europian-kings wrote:Just got back from the game.

Has a slash next to asamoah gyan on the way home in the service station, before he feasted on a kfc!!

Did anyone stay for the protest? I stayed in anfield road and after about 10 minutes, i could hear some of the stewards saying to eachother "lts get them to leave, i would like to get home today" etc....

I thought it was a good stay behind , i left about a ten past five , me hands are sore from clapping :laugh:

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