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Postby stmichael » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:54 pm

So it's been another long and progressive season for Liverpool FC, and as at this stage last season, we have Aston Villa at home for our last home game before moving onto bigger horizons in a major Cup Final.

I suppose the Cup Final team is already pretty much decided but it would be nice to see a couple of the youngsters get a run out off the bench for this one as the chances of realistically getting 2nd have pretty much faded now.

Is Kewell still injured does anybody know?
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Postby dawson99 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:57 pm

i think hes shaken it off but may well be rested for the first half at least. it should be a good game (its live on foreign tv at 3 if anyone cares) and robbie is runing out of time to grab that new contract so i reckon it will be out and guns blazing
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Postby Black Country Villa » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:57 pm

with all due respect you could play 11 of your tea ladys and still beat us!!

we are a League 1 team at the moment, absolute disgrace!

hopefully see some of you guys tomorrow pre and post match, prob seen in my post were coming in fancy dress for last away game  :laugh:
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Postby red37 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:58 pm

think harry will be ok for the final i remember reading...as for this game, surely 3 more points?

last home game and this  shouldnt be anything less than a 2:0  :buttrock
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Postby Black Country Villa » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:00 pm

2-0? you're havin a laugh aint you?

i would seriously say you could score at least 6 or 7 guys
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Postby Sabre » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:02 pm

As an official of my archenemies Athletic Bilbao said, before a UEFA game,

"we can win in Aston city, and wherever we go" :D
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Postby red37 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:02 pm

Black Country Villa wrote:2-0? you're havin a laugh aint you?

i would seriously say you could score at least 6 or 7 guys

well see certainly hope so!
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Postby Black Country Villa » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:03 pm

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

all the best for the game guys, and the Cup final too
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Postby red37 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:04 pm

Black Country Villa wrote: :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

all the best for the game guys, and the Cup final too

:;):  nice one. all the best with gettin rid of o'leary as well  :D
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Postby Black Country Villa » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:07 pm

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

wait till you see my banner tomorrow

"O'Leary for England"

gone a bit hard tho, suppose its to be expected when u use gloss  :laugh:
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Postby stmichael » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:10 pm

Look at this recent Spying Kop from Rawk with a couple of Villa fans.
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1. Its the end of the season - how do you feel it has gone for you?

JC: I don’t think words can describe how disappointing this season has been. I think I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times we’ve played well this season. It’s been a poor season and the players know that. The thing that stops me getting angry is that they are all at fault, really. I can’t say there has been one player who has played well this season.

MF : It's been another non-event really.  The only interesting things about Villa these days tend to be the inane actions of our chairman, who's actually been quite well behaved the last few months, and David O'Leary.  With the players we have we certainly shouldn't be fighting a relegation battle so in many ways it's just been a waste of a season.  You can't even say DOL has been building and good things will follow as the only things he seems to have achieved is in making us a laughing stock and destroying the foundations of what was quite a good setup.

2. How did your expectations for this season compare to the reality of April for Aston?

JC: I expected midtable at the beginning of the season. Oh, the life of a Villa fan! Injuries, poor refereeing decisions by the dozen hasn’t helped, but on the whole we’ve been poor, very poor. It’d have been nice to at least bring in a loan player in January. But apparently we can’t even afford that. We’re now a club that can’t afford a loan signing – at the moment I’d be happy we’ve staying up.

MF: Pretty much the same really, avoid relegation and at some point see a professional manager acting in a way commensurate with his salary.

3. Who do you think has been your most important player(s) this season?

JC: There isn’t one. And that’s part of the problem. There is no leader on the pitch. Nothing.

MF: It's probably harsh but I don't think anyone has really stood out.  Davis, Barry, Hughes, Moore, Mellberg have been consistent and/or improved as the season has gone on but nobody has really performed to their potential, or changed games with their performances.

4. And your worst player(s)?

JC: Liam Ridgewell would grab this with both hands (like most balls into the penalty area) if he hadn’t been forced to play there due to there being no other central defenders at the club. I guess this should go to J’Lloyd Samuel who gave away quite a few goals at the beginning of the season then complained about being dropped. He rarely seems like he is fully concentrating on the game, and his confidence isn’t the highest. A lot of them have been as bad as each other, to be brutally honest.

MF: David O'Leary without a doubt, the man's responsibility is to motivate and tactically prepare our players for each and every game.  He has systematically failed in that respect, let alone the idiotic statements to the press and the lies and disrespect he's shown the fanbase.  I find it hard to criticise or single out one or two individual players for their performances this season when it appears they are as interested in listening to our manager as most fans are.

5. Milan Baros? Good buy or Goodbye? Were you right to steal from us or wish you'd kept the receipt?

JC: Personally, I think he’s been a good signing. He’s scored some very important goals for us, and when he’s been out of the team we’ve struggled to score and had poorer performances. There are quite a few thinking he’s been a waste of money – people often complaining of diving, which, to be fair, he is guilty of. Apparently he didn’t do this at Liverpool – I put it down to Liverpool being more favoured by referees, who have cost us at least six points this season – including the game against you lot at Villa Park. Not that you’ll agree, naturally ...

MF: For the price, I think a lot of fans would like a partial refund.  As a player he's far more effective than Vassell ever was, he's putting them away but not with the consistency to justify his price tag.  I suppose ultimately the jury is still out as he has been dogged by injury, not helped by his national team and service to strikers has never been the greatest from our midfield to be honest.  That said we should never have got rid of Crouch!

6. Any youngsters/hot prospects coming through for next season?

JC: Erm, to be honest they are already in our team already – just because the plan seems to be to run any talent we do have into the ground. Winning the FA Youth Cup was the worst thing this club could have done – the old chap trying to run the club thinks that they are destined to stardom. Unfortunately it doesn’t work out like that. Steven Davis could be huge, mind. Luke Moore looks like he could become handy and Gabriel Agbonlahor is raw but has fantastic pace. Too early to see if he’ll be any good though.

MF: Cahill will be the next in line. Having received rave reports whilst onloan at Burnley only our idiotic manager could deny him appearances this season because he hasn't signed a new contract yet.  Outside of Cahill, these days it doesn't really matter because what fans think and what DOL does rarely matches.

7. Thoughts on the great Leprechaun? David O'Really or Nearly? Is he the man to keep?

JC: He’s not very good at PR, that’s for sure. Some people have decided that he’s the antichrist and whatever he does is wrong. Others think he has made mistakes and should go. Me? Well, I don’t really know. I rate him, but I think he’s another manager who has become stale at Villa, frustrated by lack of support and any reforms trying to take the club further being met with a short sharp “no” from Doug Ellis’s hospital bed.

MF: You may have an idea of my answer from things above.  It's more a case of David O'Not Even Close.  The man has to go.  Yes he has constraints working under Ellis, but supposed lesser managers have achieved more than him, had the team playing with a greater consistency and actually entertained.  The only thing David is proficient in is :censored: of the fans, his own players and now the local media with his poor me attitude, nothing's my fault, and his lies to the fans. 

8. What sort of line-up do you expect he will set up against us?

JC: One full of patched up players, tired youth and others who aren’t good enough. It’ll be 4-4-2, but with injuries etc it’s hard to really say at the moment. That’s of course, if he’s still in charge. If he'd lost both of the recent derbies, I'd have expected him to be out of a job and us to be managed by some cheap replacement like Platt or Cowans.

MF: Depends who's fit or who's in DOL's good books to be honest.  Expect Couch to hit a hattrick and a lot of Villa fans to cheer!

9. Sometimes you play really well and beat good teams then you lose 73-0 to Arsenal. What's the deal?

JC: When we have the full team out, then we can beat the Evertons and Middlesbroughs of this world. Unfortunately we often can’t field our best team and as a result we're totally :censored: in most of the games we play. That’s what I’d like to think, anyway.

MF: Sometimes we play really well?  When? Where?!  We have no spirit, no fight - there just isn't a will to win or to shed blood for the shirt anymore.

10. What do you expect in the way of singing/banter etc from our away support? Do we compare well and how do you rate the atmosphere at your ground?

JC: Erm, you were a little quiet at VP until the referee gave a penalty for some unexplained reason. Not that we can talk, Villa’s home support is on the whole pretty poor. Mainly a few songs about Birmingham City and then booing the team and manager. It’s actually rather difficult to sit at Villa Park at the moment as I find this more frustrating than the football.

MF: Scousers are normally pretty fun to be fair - lots of banter and it's usually lighthearted in my experience.  Hopefully they will join in with any anti-chairman or manager chants, but then again DOL will probably say it was only the visiting support and that Villa fans are behind him.

11. Do you have any favourite chants and perhaps any that require an explanation?

JC: Not really. Anyone who tries to come up with something is normally ignored if it doesn’t involve slagging off Birmingham City.

MF: Nothing new that stands out - you'll have heard them before. 

12. Where do you expect yourselves and Liverpool to finish come next week?

JC: I don’t want to say where I expect, as it scares me slightly. As long as we stay up, that’ll do for now.

MF: I think you'll stay third to be fair, don't see you closing in on Man Utd now. For us, I'll simply be happy with anything above the bottom 3.

13. Which Liverpool player(s) do you fear the most?

JC: I dunno. Gerrard has run himself into the ground and is knackered, and everyone else seems to be a bit hit and miss, really. I’ll say Robbie Fowler, just because he always scores against us.

MF: For me it has to be Crouch, top man who will no doubt be out to stuff his boots up DOL's rectum.

14. Doug Ellis? Favourite Villain or Arch Villain?

JC: “Aston Villa is ran by Doug Ellis, for Doug Ellis” – Graham Taylor. He didn’t seem to get anything right in his second spell at the club, but he got that right when he left.

MF: I wouldn't even say arch villain, the less the man can relate to Villa the better in my opinion. He can leave with DOL as far as I'm concerned. Ellis' only saving grace at the moment is that the club have appointed Rothchilds to source investors and DOL is being such a muppet that it's taking the heat off him (again).

15. And your feelings on Liverpool this season? How well do you think Rafa has done?

MF: I think the main difference is he has you playing as a team again, you have some balance.  The core has always been there with different players over the years, same as Villa in many ways, but Rafa seems to have made it all gel together and with some astute signings to plug the gaps you are far more consistent than you have been for a while.  (That said Gerrard still dived for the penalty in the Euro!)

JC: I think he’s done well. His choice of strikers seems to be a bit odd though. I think Liverpool lack a player who can create something out of nothing. But don’t we all?

16. Who do you hate more? Baggies or Brummies?

JC: Me? Personally the local rivalry bores me. Every game is the same. Some clubs have more knobheads than others, but all this silly anger is a bit juvenile really. There’s a definite bigger hate for Birmingham City than West Brom from the majority of fans though, I’d wager.

MF: Both, I'm not one to discriminate.

17. And to finish, what's the score? Care to hazard a guess?

JC: Miserable loss by Villa. I expect Fowler to get close to a hatrick, so I’m saying 3-0 to you lot. Actually, sod it. 73-0 to the Villa.

MF: 4-1 to you, Crouchie for a hattrick!

Thanks chaps for your answers, very good of you. Enjoy the summer.
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What a joyful bunch of fans :laugh:
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Postby Morth » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:33 pm

Good grief.  Prozac, anyone?

The muppets who asked for O'Nearly to replace Rafa must be glad they're not in any way shape or form involved in managing the club.  :D
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Postby anti-hero » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:43 pm

Man..

Are all Villa fans THAT depressing? :D
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Postby ToTinho » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:55 pm

i have a feeling it will be our biggest result in the EPL this season .. i'll go for 5-0 or 6-0 ..

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Postby MilitiaRusher » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:04 pm

In my opinion, there is not a big need to rest players now. The next game is a week away and the big FA Cup tie 2 weeks away, so for the sake of giving a good performance in the last game of the season in Anfield, my team for the game will be:

               Reina

Finnan  Carragher  Hyppia  Riise

Gerrard  Hamann  Alonso  Cisse

           Crouch  Fowler

SUBS: Dudek, Morientes, Sissoko, Kromkamp/Warnock, Traore/Agger(?).

Away game against Portsmouth:

                Dudek

Kromkamp  Carragher  Traore  Warnock

Finnan  Sissoko  Hamann  Riise

          Morientes  Fowler

SUBS: Reina, Crouch, Gerrard, Hyypia/Agger(?), Kewell(?)/Cisse.

Cup Final against West Ham:

                Reina

Finnan  Carragher  Hyypia  Riise

Gerrard  Sissoko  Alonso  Kewell

          Crouch  Cisse

SUBS: Dudek, Morientes, Traore/Agger(?), Hamann, Kromkamp/Warnock.
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