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bigmick wrote:

mjlfc09 wrote:" He is an amazing player, his work rate is fantastic and we can see that because we are watching all their statistics .

"He is always one of the players who runs the most during a match but we want him to have a rest if he can because I think that will help improve his game."
http://www.lfconline.com/news....tml?utm

Sometimes you don't need to add anything, the raw quote says it all.

I loose faith in Rafa when he speaks like this

Statistics isn't everything, as for example Alonso once showed.

Just cause you score a rebound and does jack all the rest of the game does not make you a great footballer. I prefer Alonso who might not get all the goals and assists, but is very gifted and has wonderful technique and can make a team tick and makes his presence known during most games. When most other players doesn't score they do other important things, but when Kuyt doesn't score he does nothing but loose the ball or pass backwards. The sooner he players a real rw at rw the better for all.

Penguins wrote:

bigmick wrote:

mjlfc09 wrote:" He is an amazing player, his work rate is fantastic and we can see that because we are watching all their statistics .

"He is always one of the players who runs the most during a match but we want him to have a rest if he can because I think that will help improve his game."
http://www.lfconline.com/news....tml?utm

Sometimes you don't need to add anything, the raw quote says it all.

I loose faith in Rafa when he speaks like this

Statistics isn't everything, as for example Alonso once showed.

Just cause you score a rebound and does jack all the rest of the game does not make you a great footballer. I prefer Alonso who might not get all the goals and assists, but is very gifted and has wonderful technique and can make a team tick and makes his presence known during most games. When most other players doesn't score they do other important things, but when Kuyt doesn't score he does nothing but loose the ball or pass backwards. The sooner he players a real rw at rw the better for all.

maypaxvobiscum wrote:he should be sold. he is soon turning 30 and offers nothing except for a few deflections. he is like a beachball on the pitch to be honest

Rockthekop wrote:Torres is amazing, Kuyt is well Kuyt.

He's not as important the team in the same way Reina, Johnson, Carra, Mash, Gerrard and Torres are.

Leave him out a few games and we'll see what we aren't missing.

Very true

You won't have a player that stuffs up every passing move, that's what you will be missing. 

devaney wrote:

Penguins wrote:

bigmick wrote:

mjlfc09 wrote:" He is an amazing player, his work rate is fantastic and we can see that because we are watching all their statistics .

"He is always one of the players who runs the most during a match but we want him to have a rest if he can because I think that will help improve his game."
http://www.lfconline.com/news....tml?utm

Sometimes you don't need to add anything, the raw quote says it all.

I loose faith in Rafa when he speaks like this

Statistics isn't everything, as for example Alonso once showed.

Just cause you score a rebound and does jack all the rest of the game does not make you a great footballer. I prefer Alonso who might not get all the goals and assists, but is very gifted and has wonderful technique and can make a team tick and makes his presence known during most games. When most other players doesn't score they do other important things, but when Kuyt doesn't score he does nothing but loose the ball or pass backwards. The sooner he players a real rw at rw the better for all.

I know we will have to agree to differ on this one but part of Kuyt's problem at the moment is that the entire team including Gerrard and Torres are playing very badly. Kuyt's contribution in the second half of last season was extremely impressive and he successfully converted many of his critics. This season I accept he has been poor but no worse than anybody else. He spends his time running around like a maniac fighting fires and a lot of the time it isn't constructive. We have a midfield that is simply incapable of creating anything but for some reason it is always Kuyt that takes the flack.

made in UK wrote:Hypothetically speaking if a new manager were to come in, whomever.

Would all of the current Rafa-fanatics (you know who you are) suddenly adhere your undying love to our new manager. Or is it vital that he has to say a few nice things about Liverpool city and FC before you get all wet about him.

If our new manager (hypothetically speaking of course) did all the things our 'real fans' like, do we give him a seasons grace by excusing him that he had to get rid of the dead wood acrued by Rafa. You know, like you've all done when Rafa first signed claiming that Houliers dead wood had to go before progress was made. Ironically the only real progress made in Rafa's tenure was him winning a European cup with most of Houlliers dead wood   but thats another matter.

What I'm saying is, will our current squad be considered dead wood only after Rafa's departure has been made and used to ease our new manager into things at Anfield. Or will they be these f.ucking bizarely amazing players that they are apparently be now. OR better said will you still be happily content with this current mob we have if a new manager came in?

I'll wait to see how things pan out, because knowing many posters on here once Rafa's gone (if he goes) his squad will be considered dead wood by these 'real fans' we currently have on the 'bandwagon'.

devaney wrote:

Aussie Style wrote:Sell Kuyt, buy a RB that can defend and move Johnson up the pitch.

What about switching the two players as a temporary measure?

Convert Johnson into a successful creative midfield player and his value has the potential to go up as well.

What really does amaze me is Rafa's favourites and Kuyt is at the top of the list. Everybody can see that Kuyt is struggling at the moment except Rafa and he does nothing about it. It wouldn't surprise me if Kuyt is physically and mentally knack.ered.

Penguins - sorry but your criticism of Kuyt as usual is incredibly unfair. Yes he has his problems but he really is not to blame for everything. He is Liverpool's  second highest scorer this season in the Premiership with 5 goals (and a couple of assists) so it is not all bad. He also scored a vital face saving goal against Debrecen in our first CL match when the entire team were terrible! And don't forget his last minute goal against Standard Liege to get us through qualifying for the 2008/2009 CL. Kuyt has always been the whipping boy and I will never except that.

Try this out for a bit of Christmas fun - just ask any Liverpool fan how many goals Kuyt has scored this season and the vast majority will get nowhere near five. They will even forget that he scored against Everton and Arsenal. The Arsenal goal was also partly of his own creation. Give the lad a break! I agree that stats are not everything and Xabi is a classic example of this. But whilst stats aren't everything goals most definitely are and Kuyt's contribution has been a lot better than most.