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by **shawnk** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:15 am

Zidane wrote:Time to throw Pacheco out into the fire and see how things go. With no Stevie Torres Benny or Riera Rafa has to throw everything he's got out there. We better not play it safe or I'll be !

I dont think Rafa rates him at all based on whatever reason. The best I see him is a bench warmer or someone to get a chance if another player is injured.

by **shawnk** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:27 am

I really dont see how we can win this with our current situation. I'm a person who doesn't think things will change itself without doing much or anything at all especially results have often tell you that you are wrong. In fact, I think it's a bit insane to repeat doing the wrong thing. It's like repeating 1+1 long enough to have it equal to 11.

But I do hope Rodriguez can change things but I think he'll be on bench at best for this game.

by **red till i die!!** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:06 am

bavlondon wrote:I guess we will see more of Pacheco now that Torres is out for a few months.

really hope so mate.

by **RobinHood6969** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:08 am

Guess we would clinch a 1-1 draw.. would be leading 1-0 and a late goal for stoke..
Hope pacheco plays

by **babu** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:23 am

feckin unbelieveable that on a LFC forum majority are predicting a draw as the best we can hope for agianst STOKE CITY?

?

We'll tw@t them 4-0

by **europian-kings** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:33 pm

babu wrote:feckin unbelieveable that on a LFC forum majority are predicting a draw as the best we can hope for agianst STOKE CITY? ?

We'll tw@t them 4-0

Thats the spirit

Really finding it hard to predict the starting line up for this one.
Is monstermash back??

by **Rockthekop** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:07 pm

Lawro's Premier League predictions

Stoke v Liverpool

If I was Stoke boss Tony Pulis, I would be thinking 'Steven Gerrard won't be playing, Fernando Torres won't be playing', let's get stuck into Liverpool.

If anyone didn't already know, take Gerrard and Torres out of the Liverpool team and it is ordinary in the least.

In all honesty, if Liverpool spent the season without Gerrard and Torres, then Liverpool would do well to finish halfway up the table.

Verdict: 2-1

by **Ciggy** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:28 pm

Ryan babel: From Twitter:

Hey people, I got some disappointing news, I m not travelling 2 Stoke.. The Boss left me out the squad. No explanation..

by **Greavesie** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:39 pm

gutter for him

we got better in the second half against Reading without the big 2. If we cant beat Stoke away without Torres and Gerrard its an indictment of the progress we've truly made under Rafa.

We WILL win this

by **Ben Patrick** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:15 pm

Ciggy wrote:Ryan babel: From Twitter:

Hey people, I got some disappointing news, I m not travelling 2 Stoke.. The Boss left me out the squad. No explanation..

Mates just told me that n all.

Seems a strange one given the chronic injuries we have.
Either he is going soon or Rafa has had words with him and he has been bombed.
If its the latter despite his awful attitude that would seem stupid on the managers part to not even have him substitute.

More of a chance for Pacheco though hopefully.

by **Owzat** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:28 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Zidane wrote:Time to throw Pacheco out into the fire and see how things go. With no Stevie Torres Benny or Riera Rafa has to throw everything he's got out there. We better not play it safe or I'll be !

Yeah id go with that. But Rafa will no doubt start with Babel.

Well Rafa has somehow contrived to buy nothing particularly special and make our squad thinner than Anna Reksic, so he may have little choice but to play Babel. I didn't think Babel played too badly on Wednesday, but of course it is written in stone that Babel, Lucas, Kuyt, Keane, Pennant and Voronin couldn't possibly have a good game for Liverpool and the lucky ones are those listed who don't play here any more and can't be blamed anymore!

It will be all hands to the pumps, expect five defenders on the bench or perhaps Rafa will go five at the back to try and negate their long ball approach. Wish I hadn't said that now, I will not be shocked if we play Skrtel, Carra and Agger as CBs or even Skrtel, Agger, Kyrgiakos as CBs with Carra at full-back (so we have height)

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:49 pm

So none of the following will be in the squad: Johnson, Kelly, El Zhar, Gerrard, Benayoun, Babel and Torres.

We will have to put together a starting 11 and bench from these players: Reina, Cavalieri, Carragher, Agger, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Degen, Darby, Aurelio, Insua, Aquilani, Mascherano, Lucas, Spearing, Plessis, Kuyt, Rodriguez, Riera, Ngog, Pacheco and Eccleston

Get ready for another embarrassing result and performance.

by **shawnk** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:03 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Ryan babel: From Twitter:

Hey people, I got some disappointing news, I m not travelling 2 Stoke.. The Boss left me out the squad. No explanation..

Mates just told me that n all.

Seems a strange one given the chronic injuries we have.
Either he is going soon or Rafa has had words with him and he has been bombed.
If its the latter despite his awful attitude that would seem stupid on the managers part to not even have him substitute.

More of a chance for Pacheco though hopefully.

If this is true, why wasn't he selling off Babel for 8 mils last week?! What is he thinking...

by **Ben Patrick** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:44 pm

Just had an email with what the team has been in training,

no mention of what keeper but the team in training (if this is true) was

Carra (right back)
the greek
skyrtl
agger (left back)
Maxi
Lucas
Mash
Aurellio (left mid)
Aquilani
Kuyt

by **stmichael** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:16 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:Just had an email with what the team has been in training,

no mention of what keeper but the team in training (if this is true) was

Carra (right back)
the greek
skyrtl
agger (left back)
Maxi
Lucas
Mash
Aurellio (left mid)
Aquilani
Kuyt

playing four centre halves at the back is just madness, as is kuyt as a lone striker. :lookaround

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