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Postby tubby » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:32 pm

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Postby Rush Job » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:53 pm

stmichael wrote:Just on Hodgson, would any of you have even considered him for the job if he hadn't overachieved and got Fulham to the Europa League final last season?

Yes me  :D
Think I was the only one, although mick said he liked him in a convo we had months ago.
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:53 pm

Kenny wants the job,

Paul Dalglish had a webchat on a local Florida website, the chat mostly focused on his team The Tampa Bay Rowdies however a couple of questions about Liverpool popped up.

Nothing new, however it is interesting that even Paul confirmed that Kenny wants the job and he does really defend his dad’s impeccable record.

The full interview can be found here

http://blogs.tampabay.com/talk....ch.html

Paul was asked if he would become assistant manager should Kenny become Liverpool’s gaffer, here is Paul’s reply.
“No, he knows me better than that. All joking aside, I just think that hopefully he does get it because I know how much he wants it. To be honest with you it would be an unbelievable story for my dad to be going back. Some people say, well what happens if it doesn’t work. He’s been out of the game for 10 years. My question is, what if it does work? What person loves Liverpool more than my dad? Who would Liverpool fans love to see have success more than my dad. Nothing could make my family more proud. I’d love to see it happen.”

“To go back to the assistant question, they already have Sammy Lee, who is a great coach and very passionate about Liverpool. He’s the best man for that job. I don’t think they’d sleep at night until they would be successful. And I’m very happy here in the sunshine. I like being part of a great journey here.”

When asked about Rafa & Hodgson Paul replied
“I was a big Benitez fan. I thought he was an increidble manager and it shows how highly he’s regarded in European football that he got a job straight away with the European champions. I was personally in In istanbul when we had that miraculous comeback against AC Milan. That was one of the best nights of my life so I thank him for giving me that pleasure.”

“As for Roy Hodgson, he’s a very good man and he did a very good job taking Fulham to the UEFA Cup final. But I’m sure given the opportunity, he would do a tremendous job. But I’m biased. I want by dad. I think my dad is the best person to do the job, I know he wants the job. If you look at my dad’s record, he’s had one bad year as a manager, and that was his second year at Newcastle. And he would admit he made some mistakes. Even in that terrible year, Newcastle still made it to the FA Cup final. He’s a born winner. He’s an inspiration to everyone connected to Liverpool Football Club. No one can inspire the whole club in these difficult times like my father.”

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Postby Rush Job » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:20 pm

zarababe wrote:2005 were the glory days Neil...

No it wasnt, the final aside it was sh!t, we had no reason to beleive we would come back from 3 nill down, but we did!
So have a little faith will you. I shouldnt need to  tell you of all posters that. :)

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Postby shabelle50 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:24 pm

I don't doubt Rafa's achievements but also recognise his mistakes. I can't see how Torres coming in made up for all the bad buys before that. What about Keane and Dossena who came in after Torres? With that money we could have had David Silva for £27 million in the summer of 2008 which would have won us the title in 08-09. I can see both sides of it with Rafa he was better than anyone since Dalglish but botched it from 04-07 that's the harsh reality I'm afraid.

The oddity given that Benitez is apparently after David Silva at Inter is why he didn't leave sooner. Clearly he's been frustrated for some time at not having sufficient funds to strengthen the squad. At Valencia he bided his time given how good the squad was that he inherited from Cuper. At Anfield Parry let him down on Simao, Alves and Milito. Then came the Americans.

Clearly if another decent job had come up in the last season or two somewhere in Europe I think he'd have gone earlier.

My guess is that it's probably down now to either Dalglish or Hodgson. Either of them will be a good stop gap.
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Postby Rush Job » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:25 pm

For all  concerned lets hope Kenny gets the job.
Whatever happens I`m still in the pro camp, untill things go wrong. :D
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Postby LFC ANIME » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:33 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Kenny wants the job,

Paul Dalglish had a webchat on a local Florida website, the chat mostly focused on his team The Tampa Bay Rowdies however a couple of questions about Liverpool popped up.

Nothing new, however it is interesting that even Paul confirmed that Kenny wants the job and he does really defend his dad’s impeccable record.

The full interview can be found here

http://blogs.tampabay.com/talk....ch.html

Paul was asked if he would become assistant manager should Kenny become Liverpool’s gaffer, here is Paul’s reply.
“No, he knows me better than that. All joking aside, I just think that hopefully he does get it because I know how much he wants it. To be honest with you it would be an unbelievable story for my dad to be going back. Some people say, well what happens if it doesn’t work. He’s been out of the game for 10 years. My question is, what if it does work? What person loves Liverpool more than my dad? Who would Liverpool fans love to see have success more than my dad. Nothing could make my family more proud. I’d love to see it happen.”

“To go back to the assistant question, they already have Sammy Lee, who is a great coach and very passionate about Liverpool. He’s the best man for that job. I don’t think they’d sleep at night until they would be successful. And I’m very happy here in the sunshine. I like being part of a great journey here.”

When asked about Rafa & Hodgson Paul replied
“I was a big Benitez fan. I thought he was an increidble manager and it shows how highly he’s regarded in European football that he got a job straight away with the European champions. I was personally in In istanbul when we had that miraculous comeback against AC Milan. That was one of the best nights of my life so I thank him for giving me that pleasure.”

“As for Roy Hodgson, he’s a very good man and he did a very good job taking Fulham to the UEFA Cup final. But I’m sure given the opportunity, he would do a tremendous job. But I’m biased. I want by dad. I think my dad is the best person to do the job, I know he wants the job. If you look at my dad’s record, he’s had one bad year as a manager, and that was his second year at Newcastle. And he would admit he made some mistakes. Even in that terrible year, Newcastle still made it to the FA Cup final. He’s a born winner. He’s an inspiration to everyone connected to Liverpool Football Club. No one can inspire the whole club in these difficult times like my father.”

Y.N.W.A.

Think Hodgson is favourite now, but he has the final say if he wants to manage Liverpool. King Kenny as manager with Ian Rush as assistant and Sammy Lee as first team coach sounds epic enough.
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:41 pm

Some lad on another forum and i agree with him . Reckons Kenny has looked at that list of manages they them two and Purslow have devised between them and thought Feck off ,i could do a better job than any of them ,
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Postby mkingdom » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:49 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Some lad on another forum and i agree with him . Reckons Kenny has looked at that list of manages they them two and Purslow have devised between them and thought Feck off ,i could do a better job than any of them ,

Sounds feasable, or maybe my wishful thinking.

With many big names ruling themselves out

Hiddink, Lippi etc

The ones left as realistic options are probably less than inspiring to Kenny

Hodgson, Sven, Curbishley, Hughes.

No wonder he reckons he can do better.

As for the "he's been out of the game for 10 years" thing...well Sammy Lee hasn't, so he will be fully up to speed with all the modern methods/science that Kenny might not be.  Although it wouldn't surprise me if Kenny has kept in touch anyway.

It may be romantic, but a team of old boys may be what we need in the absence of a real quality name to come in.

Dalglish, Lee, Rush, and I'd even have Thompson back.

I hope we can get it sorted before the WC ends, as our season starts stupidly early due to the Euro Disney.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:52 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Some lad on another forum and i agree with him . Reckons Kenny has looked at that list of manages they them two and Purslow have devised between them and thought Feck off ,i could do a better job than any of them ,

my heart says this would work and he'll turn us around.

My head says it wouldn't work and he'd quit the job, and club, by xmas.
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Postby rocky29 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:57 pm

if england dont get through there group. capello will be looking for a new job. who on here would have him if the unthinkable did happen?
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Postby LFC2007 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:57 pm

Should Kenny Dalglish make an emotional return to Liverpool? We ask one of the club's former managers and a fanzine editor for their opinion on one of football's most intriguing summer sub-plots.

Roy Evans, former Liverpool manager

At a time when Liverpool face such uncertainty concerning the owners, there is no question that appointing Kenny as manager – even if it was only on an interim basis – would be a good idea, and I am sure I am not alone in thinking that.

It seems at the moment that there is nobody at the club at board level capable of making decisions, no chief executive who can decide the direction that Liverpool should take. At least with Kenny in place, should he return as amanager, the football side of things would be in safe hands over what is a busy period for clubs.

He knows Liverpool better than most, of course, and he would be able to work immediately with people already at the club, including the likes of Sammy Lee, the assistant manager.

That is another issue Liverpool face should they choose to appoint from outside the club. Any new manager may not meet with the approval of new owners, should they be found, and that would only result in costing the club money to pay-off him and his back-room staff. With Kenny, that would not be necessary.

No doubt, if things started to go very badly, he would face as much criticism as any other manager from the fans, but few would go into the job with as much goodwill as Kenny, so high is his standing among the supporters.

There are down sides, too, such as the fact that he has not worked as a manager for so long, but it is a case of weighing the positives against the negatives. In this case, there is only one conclusion.

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Dave Usher, editor, The Liverpool Way

No Liverpool fan would object to Kenny Dalglish returning as manager and if I was asked who should succeed Rafael Benítez, I would nominate him without hesitation.

That is not to say there is no reason to be cautious, though. Most would suggest that the amount of time he has spent out of the game should count against him, but such is his standing with everyone connected to the club that, for me, that would not be a factor.

Similarly, the risk associated with returning to Liverpool now, with all the off-field problems, should not colour people’s view. Kenny’s legacy is such that it is guaranteed to survive, whatever happens.

The problem, though, would be the perception that Liverpool’s greatest legend had agreed to work with Tom Hicks and George Gillett, the club’s owners, who are hardly the sort of figures a man in Kenny’s position should align himself with.

An emotional return would also put the board in an unenviable position. All of the allegations that surrounded Christian Purslow’s alleged undermining of Benítez would no doubt surface again, but magnified, given Kenny’s status. That may be a position the club’s power-brokers are simply not prepared to put themselves in.

Rather, it is far preferable for them to take the easy option, to appoint Roy Hodgson. The speculation has been rife for weeks that he will replace Benítez. That he has not dismissed it suggests he is tempted by one last shot at a high-profile task. He may find it is a poisoned chalice, though, so determined will some fans be to compare him negatively to the Spaniard.

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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:58 pm

rocky29 wrote:if england dont get through there group. capello will be looking for a new job. who on here would have him if the unthinkable did happen?

Capello is commited to England until 2012.
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Postby In and Out » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:03 am

I've just read the last few pages of this thread and there is a lot of whinging going on.

What happened to the old saying, 'no person is bigger than LFC'? It appears Rafa was, it also appears many support Rafa rather than LFC.

While many mourn the loss of Rafael Benitez I will remain optimistic. (I don't think he'll achieve the success that Mourinho did at Inter, and I'll be keeping an eye on his progression over there as many Reds I've spoke won't here a word against the man and believe he is able to walk on water).

Roy Hodgeson is being touted as our next manager and those fans who are in morning of Rafa have already established an anti-Roy bandwagon. Like with any manager of LFC he deserves his chance which imo is what "supporting" a club means. I don't think his contract will be long term unless he produces a miracle. But I think he will be put in place to 'steady the ship' until a new owner comes in (which I believe will happen).

Roy's come under attack about the style of football (on here) his teams play which only exhibits the naivety of some posters. He isn't a route one merchant, he likes to get his sides to play football which is more than what can be said after watching Rafa's team last year. The football we witnessed last year couldn't get any worse than that, it was absolutely dire. If Roy comes in we'll see some better football at least. If in that time he does actually do well (heavens forbid) our new owners will either keep him on or bring in their new man.

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Postby 7_Kewell » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:22 am

In and Out wrote:I've just read the last few pages of this thread and there is a lot of whinging going on.

What happened to the old saying, 'no person is bigger than LFC'? It appears Rafa was, it also appears many support Rafa rather than LFC.

While many mourn the loss of Rafael Benitez I will remain optimistic. (I don't think he'll achieve the success that Mourinho did at Inter, and I'll be keeping an eye on his progression over there as many Reds I've spoke won't here a word against the man and believe he is able to walk on water).

Roy Hodgeson is being touted as our next manager and those fans who are in morning of Rafa have already established an anti-Roy bandwagon. Like with any manager of LFC he deserves his chance which imo is what "supporting" a club means. I don't think his contract will be long term unless he produces a miracle. But I think he will be put in place to 'steady the ship' until a new owner comes in (which I believe will happen).

Roy's come under attack about the style of football (on here) his teams play which only exhibits the naivety of some posters. He isn't a route one merchant, he likes to get his sides to play football which is more than what can be said after watching Rafa's team last year. The football we witnessed last year couldn't get any worse than that, it was absolutely dire. If Roy comes in we'll see some better football at least. If in that time he does actually do well (heavens forbid) our new owners will either keep him on or bring in their new man.

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good 1st post. Whoever comes in deserves a chance.  Rafa is gone, some people need to get over it.  He's gone and so's 6 million of our funds..
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