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by **lakes10** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:27 am

bunglemark2 wrote:Lakes, when do you EVER post anything other than conjecture, rumour or just pure and simple tripe ??

as i always say mate, i only post what i am told or hear and its up to the members of this forum to make their own mind up.

I have my own views on all on this.

by **Big Niall** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:33 am

Gerrard and Torres should go to the Chairman and say that if Benitez is here at the start of next season that we're both leaving. They are professionals and shouldn't have to work for a buffoon.

by **Big Niall** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:35 am

I remember being lynched here a couple of years ago for saying that I think benitez is krap. Most here had stupid cliches "in Rafa we trust" etc, and made out that "true supporters" think Rafa is a great manager. Because of such ignorance, we might be stuck with a 20m bill to get rid of the clown.

by **Scottbot** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:41 am

Big Niall wrote:I remember being lynched here a couple of years ago for saying that I think benitez is krap. Most here had stupid cliches "in Rafa we trust" etc, and made out that "true supporters" think Rafa is a great manager. Because of such ignorance, we might be stuck with a 20m bill to get rid of the clown.

Give it a rest with the 'I told you so's' Marvin, you must have repeated the same thing fifty times in the last 2 months. It hardly confirms you as some sort of footballing oracle.

by **lakes10** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:42 am

Big Niall wrote:I remember being lynched here a couple of years ago for saying that I think benitez is krap. Most here had stupid cliches "in Rafa we trust" etc, and made out that "true supporters" think Rafa is a great manager. Because of such ignorance, we might be stuck with a 20m bill to get rid of the clown.

lol mate i said the week before he started his job that he will never win the prem with us and he was the wrong man for the job and did not understand the English game and was only going to be a good CL manager.....i have always stood by what i said and did not change my views one bit.

yes and i paid for it on here from time to time.

by **bunglemark2** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:44 am

Niall, if we sell either/both of those players, we are royally farked, so I wouldn't be advocating that path...

by **lakes10** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:56 am

bunglemark2 wrote:Niall, if we sell either/both of those players, we are royally farked, so I wouldn't be advocating that path...

not much you can do about in truth mate, I they both feel they need to move on to win the prem then they will do.

by **lakes10** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:02 am

This is the truth about our club

the team as it stand is Not a top 4 team, if we make it this year it will be luck.
there are too many bad eggs in the team right now
Rafa has wasted money on bad buys but stuck with them in the team
59 players and only a few are good.
money needs to be spent to build a good team
we have owners that have given us nothing but a big debt
the owners will not give Rafa the money he is asking for to build a team due to what he has wasted it on in the past.

we have owners that keep backing off takeovers or buy ins

we need

a new manager that knows what it takes to win the prem
this means a manager that has done it before or has a very real understanding of English football

New owners or a 3rd party to bring fresh clean money into the club and not just money to pay off the loan

we need to sell most of the team keeping only arounf 6 players that are there right now......thatshow bad our team is, dont get me wrong this team could do well but not in english footbal.

by **RedSi35** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:05 am

Sir Roger wrote:
s@int wrote:
lakes10 wrote:this is the sort of things i see posted on other forums

Originally Posted by Cantona07
I dont name sources and i have been very wrong is the past! Feel free to dismiss it.

I have it on good authority that the deal is in place and has been since January. The money is crazy but City dont care about that.

It will come down to whether Torres wants to leave Liverpool. If he does he doesnt have a choice of clubs.

I know you will say "pah!, !" but i dont tend to post these things randomly

other say its 80mil

I think the clue is in the posters name mate, "Cantona07" i'm not really 100% sure he is a Liverpool fan

Having said that I do believe if we sold either Gerrard or Torres the other one would want to go as well (as would probably a couple of others!)

Good riddance
And then wed have the backbone of Lucas, Kuyt, Insua and Ngog.
Who could ask for anything more?

Oh

by **Boocity** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:16 am

The Sheik would be better off dumping City and buying us, he would get a far bigger club, better supported, more chance of making money and Torres & Gerrard would already be aprt of the team.

Sell City get £150 - 200m for them, buy us £350m.

Why waste another couple of hundred mill on City, no matter what they spend or what they achieve they will always be in utds shadow. Total waste of money.

by **account deleted by request** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:20 am

Boocity wrote:The Sheik would be better off dumping City and buying us, he would get a far bigger club, better supported, more chance of making money and Torres & Gerrard would already be aprt of the team.

Sell City get £150 - 200m for them, buy us £350m.

Why waste another couple of hundred mill on City, no matter what they spend or what they achieve they will always be in utds shadow. Total waste of money.

The problem would be that they would need another £350million or so for the new stadium as well if they bought us.

by **tonyeh** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:32 am

sgs wrote:
Scottbot wrote:
sgs wrote:
bigmick wrote:
sgs wrote:We are not more likely to score with a poor torres in the team.

Fecking hell. We are more likely to score with Torres on the pitch regardless of whether he is on the top of his game or having the biggest nightmare of his career. If he's anything like fit and he's on the pitch we are more likely to score a goal.

Behave yourself FFS

The evidence from this season is on my side.

In the games he has been out of sorts, he has not scored. Instead he gets petulant, frustrated and earns himself a card...The notion that merely having Torres on the field is enough is NOT supported by any evidence from this season so far.

BTW, by poor I mean, unfit, tired, out of form, out of sorts......

Screw the evidence it's not Ally Mcbeal. Bottom line. MUST win game, can't afford anything less than 3 points - In a team that's struggled to score goals ALL season you keep the guy who is practically your ONLY goal threat on the pitch for the full 90 or until the job is done. If you want to get the impotent Ngog on the pitch, that's great, he can lend a hand, but take off the best striker in the world with so much at stake? It beggars belief.

It's not just this substitution. It's been season long.

Sorry sir...its about the evidence. The rest is ur feelings, which am frankly not interested in. U can share that with the wife, gf, ho or whateva....

Your cherry picking your "evidence" lad.

It doesn't work that way, I'm afraid.

by **Boocity** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:38 am

s@int wrote:
Boocity wrote:The Sheik would be better off dumping City and buying us, he would get a far bigger club, better supported, more chance of making money and Torres & Gerrard would already be aprt of the team.

Sell City get £150 - 200m for them, buy us £350m.

Why waste another couple of hundred mill on City, no matter what they spend or what they achieve they will always be in utds shadow. Total waste of money.

The problem would be that they would need another £350million or so for the new stadium as well if they bought us.

Yes but City don't own their stadium do they, I think they lease it from manchester council

by **lakes10** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:01 am

in truth i can not see any team building a new ground for a few years, the money is not there right now, if it all picks up in a year then great but i think it might be a bit silly to do it right now.

if you look at the plans on how the ground was going to be built and how we was going to pay for it the club would have been wiped out when the money market crashed, so yes there might be a good reson why G&H held of building the ground but they should have told us why, when he said 60 days it was only a few weeks after that it all come to light that we was heading for a big world crash in money
ML seem to think that G&H got it right in not starting work on it.

by **account deleted by request** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:05 am

Boocity wrote:
s@int wrote:
Boocity wrote:The Sheik would be better off dumping City and buying us, he would get a far bigger club, better supported, more chance of making money and Torres & Gerrard would already be aprt of the team.

Sell City get £150 - 200m for them, buy us £350m.

Why waste another couple of hundred mill on City, no matter what they spend or what they achieve they will always be in utds shadow. Total waste of money.

The problem would be that they would need another £350million or so for the new stadium as well if they bought us.

Yes but City don't own their stadium do they, I think they lease it from manchester council

Yes they lease it, but they have a 99 year lease mate, so I don't think they are too worried at the moment. They are talking about expanding the stadium though, not sure how that would work tbh.

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