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by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:29 pm

as an addition Martin O Neil is also a great motivator, but I dont know whether he has the mental strength to manager a club as big as Liverpool

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:33 pm

ok how long do people think it would take maureen to win the title if he came to liverpool ?

by **ironman** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:39 pm

Avi Cohen wrote:Mourinho coming would be a disaster.

The club would be changed from Liverpool FC to Mourinho FC. It will all be about him, not the club, and I wouldn't be able to take that smugness on a weekly basis. Liverpool would be a soap box for The Mourinho Show. It would be like listening to rap music - "I'm great/How great am I?/Really great/Super great/The best/I am Mourinho/I am Liverpool" etc.

What Mourinho is to football is what X-Factor is to music. Or what the Saw franchise is to film. Tacky, soulless nonsense with the bottom line being money. Mourinho won't care for the club the way we as Liverpool lovers want/need a manager to be.

oh my god. mourinho would be a disaster?? are you for real?? watching us now is like watching paint dry!! stevie g, left mid, right mid, in the hole< do you think hes gona keep on taking this?? 22 million pounds worth of aquiani sitting on the bench on against man u, babbell who arguably had his best 2 games in a row benched again for safety first approach, and your worried about someone like mourinho??? :bowdown

, he would be a sAVIOUR FOR US, END OF!!!!!

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:43 pm

Well Gerrard has played his best football playing right mid and in the hole so i would suggest he doesnt mind .

Who is Babbell ??

Is Aquilani 22 mil now ? it seems to go up on a weekly basis .

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:49 pm

Penguins wrote:
s@int wrote:Why should Torres come to Liverpool when he could have got more with other teams. While your world seems to revolve around money, most players/managers do have other priorities alongside the money. Kaka wouldn't join Citeh, Ribery has today said he wants to go to Spain rather than Chelsea because of his wife etc etc.

We will always attract top managers and players because we are a big club with a large fan base and surprisingly we still pay top wages in an area where the cost of living is relatively cheap in comparison with say London. Maybe we can't compete with the likes of Madrid, or Chelsea but neither can most other clubs.

At the moment Spain is probably the top destination for both players and managers because of the exchange rate, climate, low cost of living and low tax rate, however the lure of the premiership and the FACT that Mourinho has already said that he does not want to manage in Spain may enable us to tempt him or someone of similar standard to come. He may be tempted by the lure of the Euro, then again he may decide that he wants to be a manager rather than a coach and go where he has said he would LIKE to manage ......in the premiership.

Personally I have no worries about us attracting a top manager, my main concerns are that people are so accustomed to failure and have such low asperations that we won't change manager.

You are mentioning exceptions to the rule instead of the normal case.

Righnt now we are abig club but what makes you say it will be like that forever? Leeds was in the semis of the CL 2003 and 2 years later making it's way in the championship. I am not saying it will happen but saying things like that as a certainty is in my eyes foolish. Newcastle has a big fan base and as you can see with them if the club is mismanaged you will suffer the consequences.

When Torres came we were a much better proposition than today. We had just been to our 2nd CL final in 3 years, had not dicovered that our owners were actually rotten to the core and would not invest in the team we still thought a stadium was on the way.

It is soon not only RM or Chelski we can't compete with but also Manure, Arsenal, City, Spurs and even more if the situation is allowed to continue.

Let me just say this about Mourinho. If he chooses us for less than what other clubs are offering cause we are Liverpool then I will stand up and tip my hat off and admit I am totally wrong.
Can you do the same if I am proved right?

I just believe money talks in the end much more than you.
For every "Ribery" there are 50 "Gareth Barry"!

Why would it necessarily have to be less money ? We pay Benitez £4 OR £5million p.a. Houllier was on much less, no doubt our next manager will receive more than Benitez gets. Its the way things work mate.

Arsene Wenger Arsenal £4.5 million
Sam Allardyce Blackburn £2 million
Gary Megson Bolton £700,000
Guus Hiddink Chelsea £6.14 million
David Moyes Everton £3 million
Phil Brown Hull City £500,000
Rafael Benitez Liverpool £5 million
Mark Hughes Manchester City £3 million
Alex Ferguson Manchester United £3 million
Alan Shearer Newcastle £1 million
Steve Bruce Wigan £1.6 million
Fabio Capello Engand £4.5 million
Giovanni Trapattoni Republic Of Ireland £1.5 million

A little out of date but may be of some help

Righnt now we are abig club but what makes you say it will be like that forever?

Which makes it all the more important to make the right decisions and appointment now! The danger is we don't change things, missing out on the CL becomes the norm rather than the exception and the downward spiral begins.

We can stand around moaning of doom and gloom and becoming the next Leeds, or we can take positive steps to making sure we don't become the next Leeds or Newcastle. The first step is getting in a manager who can do more with less (which is why MY first option is Dalglish not Mourinho)

Hopefully we will get new investment or new owners, but until that happy day we have to make the most of what we have got, which means getting the players performing to their best level and the team performing to its peak. Motivation, man management, ambition, playing as a team, may not be as glamorous names as Kaka,Ronaldo and Villa, but they can help to offset the fact that we have little money at the moment.

When Benitez came to Liverpool we had a squad of players that no longer believed in the manager, no money, and our best players threatening to leave.

A new manager brought fresh belief, and within 12 months we won the CL, and some much needed revenue. Maybe a new manager won't have such dramatic success this time, but it may be enough to see us a little higher than 6th place and out of all the cups early(barring the Europa league)

If you would rather admit defeat and see us go the way of Leeds and Newcastle, thats your choice, mine is to look for a new manager and renewed hope.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:56 pm

So what happens if we end up 4th and win europa saint ? does he still get sacked ? remember being 6th and being out of cl at this stage is a one off when comparing his previous seasons

Also there is nothing to say that things could get easily get worse if Kenny took over due to his lack of experience over the last 20 years . I know you keep skating over it saint but but how long has he been out of the job again ?

by **ironman** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:01 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Well Gerrard has played his best football playing right mid and in the hole so i would suggest he doesnt mind .

Who is Babbell ??

Is Aquilani 22 mil now ? it seems to go up on a weekly basis .

so thats his best position yeah?? attacking midfieler was always my opinion?? were id aquialnis best position?? so because stevie g can play anywere, you think hes happy?? and hes not as good as anyone for getting forwad like lampard?? does lampard get messed about?? as for babbell, van baston said he was the biggest prospect to come out of holland in 10 yrs, not a bad recommendation eh?? how do you expect him to do anything when hes constantly on the bench?? do you think for a young player, playin would be the best option?? maybe after he does well, play him again?? everyone knew he would be the one left out in the big man u game!! positive as ever! you could pick our team for every big game couldnt you?? lol, lucas, massa, gerrard torres< oh, kyut right, dossena, aurelio,deggan, whatever on the left that could keep it tight eh?

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by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:02 pm

Im sorry but - What ?!

by **ironman** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:03 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:So what happens if we end up 4th and win europa saint ? does he still get sacked ? remember being 6th and being out of cl at this stage is a one off when comparing his previous seasons

Also there is nothing to say that things could get easily get worse if Kenny took over due to his lack of experience over the last 20 years . I know you keep skating over it saint but but how long has he been out of the job again ?

is 4th good enough for us now?

and a micky mouse cup?

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:05 pm

oh god another one

by **Scottbot** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:12 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:ok how long do people think it would take maureen to win the title if he came to liverpool ?

Who knows mate, that's my answer.

I'll spin it around. how long do you think it will take Rafa?

by **Scottbot** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:14 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:So what happens if we end up 4th and win europa saint ? does he still get sacked ?

I've come to the conclusion Rafa isn't up to it and that a change is needed however, if he pulls those two off? Fairplay to the man, he deserves another season.

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:19 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:So what happens if we end up 4th and win europa saint ? does he still get sacked ? remember being 6th and being out of cl at this stage is a one off when comparing his previous seasons

Also there is nothing to say that things could get easily get worse if Kenny took over due to his lack of experience over the last 20 years . I know you keep skating over it saint but but how long has he been out of the job again ?

Question 1

I refer you to the many times I have answered this one -He would deserve another season even if my belief is that it may do more harm than good.

Question 2

10 years since he was last manager of a club. 10 years since he last won a trophy.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:23 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:So what happens if we end up 4th and win europa saint ? does he still get sacked ? remember being 6th and being out of cl at this stage is a one off when comparing his previous seasons

Also there is nothing to say that things could get easily get worse if Kenny took over due to his lack of experience over the last 20 years . I know you keep skating over it saint but but how long has he been out of the job again ?

Question 1

I refer you to the many times I have answered this one -He would deserve another season even if my belief is that it may do more harm than good.

Question 2

10 years since he was last manager of a club. 10 years since he last won a trophy.

Ten years ? Which trophy was that ? And do you not think ten years is a long time to be out of football management and I beleive it's 14 years since prem trophy and 12 years since managed in prem with Newcastle

by **Kakloola** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:25 pm

Gerrard Houllier sold everyone in liverpool and then he bought new players
he changed the whole club
he got players like Sami Hyypia, he dominated the box like Carraghar does now, Hyypia might have done even better
Gerrard Houllier left the club in 2005 or 2004
Look at it this way, Benitez won the champions league and FA Cup in 2005
That was when Gerrard Houllier had made a strong squad and made sure that it was ready for any battle
Benitez just took that squad and won with it, sure he added Alonso but nothing else
Gerrard Houllier had the club ready, it was him in 2005
Since Benitez came he bought people like Kuyt, Alonso, Johnson, Babel and Aquilini
Those are good buy's but Benitez need's to put them in use
Houllier knew Hyppia was a good defender and he knew his heading accuracy was perfect so he got him
He made Stevie G captain
I know Benitez has done good, he made us come second last season but is that it??
Has he even won anything after the year 2005?? Might have but Benitez was never as good as Gerrard Houllier
Jose Mourinho would be a good manager for us, he would actually get us somewhere
Martin O Neil, i know he doesnt have much experience to manage a club like Liverpool, but he would be a good try

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