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by **Scottbot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:O Neill leave a club where he has owner that backs in no matter what and building a decent team of his own and has already been sounded out for the managers job at Man Utd for the future by Whiskey Nose himself - Never

Complete and total speculation, sounded out for the United job by fergie himself!? That's a fact is it? What a load of tosh!

You (and many others) COMPLETELY underestimate the lure of this great club.

'Stick with Rafa, no one else would want the job' seems to be the message i'm getting.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:31 pm

Based on the fact that O Neill is a manc fan ans coveted that dream as has an owner he gets on with who backs him as opposed to the owners we have

by **Scottbot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:32 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:And loets also remember Maureen already turned us down once back in 2004 . The lure of being Liverpool must of been massive for him back then to turn us down for Chelsea's money

I understand (again we're speculating AGAIN here) he was sounded out about the job. Offered it? Really don't know about that, can't say i've read (or heard anything definitive) to confirm that.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:32 pm

Scottbot wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:O Neill leave a club where he has owner that backs in no matter what and building a decent team of his own and has already been sounded out for the managers job at Man Utd for the future by Whiskey Nose himself - Never

Complete and total speculation, sounded out for the United job by fergie himself!? That's a fact is it? What a load of tosh!

You (and many others) COMPLETELY underestimate the lure of this great club.

'Stick with Rafa, no one else would want the job' seems to be the message i'm getting.

oh im sure people will want the job but not the standard of manager i believe is better than we already have

by **Scottbot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:33 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Based on the fact that O Neill is a manc fan ans coveted that dream as has an owner he gets on with who backs him as opposed to the owners we have

You assume that everybody else in the football world has demonized our owners in the same way that we have, that they hold the same low opinions as the fans. I think that is VERY unlikely.

City 2-0 down!!!

by **bigmick** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:33 pm

4 million quid a year job, managing Liverpool and nobody wants it. Feck me, you couldn't make up some of the nonsense people spout on here :laugh:

Not only is Rafa the best manager in the business, he's the only one who'd do the job as well :laugh:

by **Scottbot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:34 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Scottbot wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:O Neill leave a club where he has owner that backs in no matter what and building a decent team of his own and has already been sounded out for the managers job at Man Utd for the future by Whiskey Nose himself - Never

Complete and total speculation, sounded out for the United job by fergie himself!? That's a fact is it? What a load of tosh!

You (and many others) COMPLETELY underestimate the lure of this great club.

'Stick with Rafa, no one else would want the job' seems to be the message i'm getting.

oh im sure people will want the job but not the standard of manager i believe is better than we already have

We'll have to leave it there mate but I completely disagree.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:36 pm

Scottbot wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:And loets also remember Maureen already turned us down once back in 2004 . The lure of being Liverpool must of been massive for him back then to turn us down for Chelsea's money

I understand (again we're speculating AGAIN here) he was sounded out about the job. Offered it? Really don't know about that, can't say i've read (or heard anything definitive) to confirm that.

People seem to be quite happy to speculate if it shows Rafa in a bad light in anyway .

Liverpool go for Mourinho

* Dominic Fifield
* The Guardian, Tuesday 25 May 2004 00.12 BST
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Gerard Houllier

Liverpool retain hope that they can still lure the Porto coach Jose Mourinho to Anfield as successor to Gérard Houllier, who yesterday became the first manager sacked by the club in almost half-a-century.

An emotional Houllier departed Merseyside after a six-year reign which yielded four major trophies though it was his failure to claim a first league title since 1990, and the perception that that would not be achieved over the final year of his contract, which prompted the club to act. The board's decision was unanimous, with the Frenchman to pick up around £1m in compensation.

While progress in the appointment of a successor will have to wait until the chief executive Rick Parry returns from a holiday in Barbados at the end of next week, Liverpool have already earmarked potential candidates for the position.

That short-list includes the highly-rated Mourinho, whose representatives had tentatively contacted the Merseysiders earlier this year to sound them out.

That approach was rejected, with the board backing Houllier at the time, though Liverpool will now attempt to deflect Chelsea's interest in the Porto manager in a bid to lure Mourinho to Anfield after all. Sources close to the Stamford Bridge club insisted last night that the Portuguese was still "100% certain" to take up the reins in west London, though he is known to be concerned about working under Roman Abramovich.

Liverpool will attempt to play on those fears, pointing to the leeway and stability awarded Houllier throughout his time on Merseyside. Should Mourinho, whose Porto side compete in the Champions League final against Monaco tomorrow, sign the proposed four-year contract on offer at Chelsea then the Anfield board will turn their attentions elsewhere. The Valencia coach Rafael Benitez, Alan Curbishley and Gordon Strachan are all leading contenders.

The prime criterion will be: "Who is most likely to make us become challengers," said Parry. "Track record will be important, but that's not to say that they must have managed in the Champions League or we'd be ruling out any English contenders.We want to see someone who has a passion for success." Mourinho aside, the trio of contenders would all also offer that much though Benitez intends to explore the possibility of eking more funds from his board before leaving the Mestalla.

Richard Murray, Charlton's chairman, said of Curbishley: "I don't know where it all comes from, but it happens every time there's a vacancy. Alan's signed a new deal in February. All I can do is get him on a new contract and on better money. If a manager has just signed a three-year contract do you then look to put a contingency plan in place? I know Rick Parry well and I haven't had a call from him. I know nothing."

A decision on the new manager is anticipated early next month with Houllier's successor expected to mount a more coherent title challenge next term. "It's about getting closer to success and getting the fans believing we're closer," said Parry. "We're in the Champions League, but that was always a minimum standard rather than a goal in itself. In points' terms, this season has been worse than Roy Evans's final season back in 1998.

"That puts it into perspective, but it was still a decision made with the head rather than the heart. We asked ourselves whether we felt we would be challenging for the title next season without a change. The bottom line is that we didn't feel we would. A change was necessary."

Houllier disputed that assessment at the private meeting with the chief executive where he learned of his fate, though he admirably maintained his dignity both on discovering the board's decision and at his Anfield farewell yesterday. By a twist of irony, he undertook his last duties as manager in the trophy room he had helped to stock in recent years.

There was no bitterness in his speech, though the emotion was clear as he was driven out of the stadium for the last time. "I had intended to carry on with my job, and I wanted to carry on with it," he said. "But we have agreed to part company mainly because of the sudden excessive pressure on the board and myself. I thought it could be harmful for the players in next season's campaign."

Liverpool finished the season 30 points behind the leaders Arsenal with disillusion welling in the stands and discontent mounting just as steadily from influential players concerned that the club may be meandering. They had won only 25 of the 64 Premiership matches since topping the table by seven points in November 2002, with Anfield too often engulfed in an air of mutiny. "If we had lost the first two games of next season, it would have been intolerable," added Parry.

"Gérard himself acknowledged that much."

The backroom staff - Phil Thompson, Christian Damiano and Sammy Lee - will remain at the club though their retention would need to be sanctioned by the Frenchman's successor. "The club has considerably improved, both on and off the field," added Houllier. "It must keep on developing. The club needs to understand that it cannot always have a quick fix, but it is in my heart. I may leave Liverpool, but Liverpool will never leave me."

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Mourinho admits Chelsea offer

Porto coach keen to move to Stamford Bridge

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Jose Mourinho

Mourinho contemplates what to do with Veron and Crespo.

Porto coach Jose Mourinho has publicly revealed for the first time that he wants to join Chelsea this summer.

The Champions League-winning boss has become Europe's most wanted coach after the success of his team over the past two seasons.

Chelsea, whose current boss Claudio Ranieri is widely expected to leave the club this summer, are among the clubs believed to be chasing Mourinho.

"I have some offers in my wallet, but one which I very much want to accept, which is that from Chelsea," Mourinho told Portuguese channel Sport TV.

"It will be decided in the next few days when I tell Porto's management of my intentions but the two clubs have talked."

Until this assertion Mourinho had been coy about his future, refusing to name the clubs who have been courting him.

The 41-year-old has been widely regarded as one of the world's best young coaches for more than a year, a reputation which was enhanced by Porto's 3-0 win over Monaco in Wednesday's Champions League final at Gelsenkirchen.

He was expected to let the dust settle after arguably the club's greatest ever victory, which followed their European Cup triumph of 1987 and UEFA Cup win last year.

Speaking immediately after Wednesday's final, Mourinho would not confirm that Chelsea were among the clubs interested in his services.

"The country where I want to work next is England, and I haven't changed my mind about that," he said.

"The club I gave my word to I would be favourite to go - I don't change my mind.

"I cannot speak about Chelsea because I really don't know, but I know that my agent has a few things in his pocket, and he has showed what's in his pocket to the Porto board and what the choices are."

Mourinho still feels passionately about Porto, the club he turned from an under-performing side into one which has won two league titles, the Portuguese Cup, the Uefa Cup and now the Champions League, and wants to part on good terms.

He added on Wednesday evening: "I still have a contract for two years but I would like to leave Porto; I am being completely frank and I want to talk to my chairman, to my board. I am going to open up to my chairman to try and sort out my professional career.

"It's almost for sure my last match - we made history but I have to keep working and trying to get success in my next step. This is the best way to finish my career with Porto - in two and half years we have won everything.

"Yes, England is the country I would like to go to, though I have a few contacts with other countries, especially Italy. I will be almost for sure going to England."

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:37 pm

bigmick wrote:4 million quid a year job, managing Liverpool and nobody wants it. Feck me, you couldn't make up some of the nonsense people spout on here

Not only is Rafa the best manager in the business, he's the only one who'd do the job as well

Hyperbole alert from Capt Sarcastic -

Please do highlight any post that says NO ONE will want the job

by **Scottbot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:37 pm

bigmick wrote:4 million quid a year job, managing Liverpool and nobody wants it. Feck me, you couldn't make up some of the nonsense people spout on here

Not only is Rafa the best manager in the business, he's the only one who'd do the job as well

Agree completely, I can understand and fully respect anyone who is still behind our manager (good on yer) BUT painting this 'poisoned chalice' picture of the LFC job, and citing it as a reason for keeping the current manager seems dumb to me.

Villa just drew!!!!!

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:38 pm

Scottbot wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Based on the fact that O Neill is a manc fan ans coveted that dream as has an owner he gets on with who backs him as opposed to the owners we have

You assume that everybody else in the football world has demonized our owners in the same way that we have, that they hold the same low opinions as the fans. I think that is VERY unlikely.

City 2-0 down!!!

Isnt there already a post in the maureen love in that says he wouldnt come to us becuase of the owners war with each other ??

by **Scottbot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:39 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:4 million quid a year job, managing Liverpool and nobody wants it. Feck me, you couldn't make up some of the nonsense people spout on here

Not only is Rafa the best manager in the business, he's the only one who'd do the job as well

Hyperbole alert from Capt Sarcastic -

Please do highlight any post that says NO ONE will want the job

Benny, that is pretty much what you have been saying as far as I can see. You're saying the Aston Villa manager wouldn't want it for christs sake!!!

by **bigmick** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:41 pm

Scottbot wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:4 million quid a year job, managing Liverpool and nobody wants it. Feck me, you couldn't make up some of the nonsense people spout on here

Not only is Rafa the best manager in the business, he's the only one who'd do the job as well

Hyperbole alert from Capt Sarcastic -

Please do highlight any post that says NO ONE will want the job

Benny, that is pretty much what you have been saying as far as I can see. You're saying the Aston Villa manager wouldn't want it for christs sake!!!

And the Fulham manager :laugh:

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:42 pm

Sorry once again please highlight a post where I have stated that no one will want the job and i will show you were i have said im sure peop;le will want the job but not the standard of manager I BELIEVE is better than Rafa

by **Scottbot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:42 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Scottbot wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Based on the fact that O Neill is a manc fan ans coveted that dream as has an owner he gets on with who backs him as opposed to the owners we have

You assume that everybody else in the football world has demonized our owners in the same way that we have, that they hold the same low opinions as the fans. I think that is VERY unlikely.

City 2-0 down!!!

Isnt there already a post in the maureen love in that says he wouldnt come to us becuase of the owners war with each other ??

I can't recall mate. It doesn't exactly mean or prove anything though does. Until a job is actually offered what does a throwaway comment to the press (if he did actually say that) tell us.

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