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Postby Jimmy the Weasel » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:03 pm

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In one breath you're telling me my points are bull, and in the next you're trying to tell me he goes past players all the time!! It's laughable, it really is, you chirp on about having a shred of credibility when in actual fact you clearly don't spend much time watching our team play at all if you're seriously claiming that Kuyt beats his man and goes past him at all!!

He has no pace - my expression "running in treacle" was merely an expression of that, I'll be much clearer next time for the primary school set reading this.

It is a shame he has no pace mind you, as it'd help him get after his first touch if he did.

If a player isn't fit to play physically, he doesn't play. If he's not fit to play mentally, it should be no different, so whilst I sympathise with the loss of his father, Rafa should not pick him if it's affecting his ability to play the game, end of story - so that doesn't wash with me I'm afraid.

As for your pathetic threats, I've already seen much worse on here than anything I've posted so far. If you don't like it, I suggest taking issue with the more serious offenders, rather than your own brand of sad, vigilante internet warrior reaction.


Just so you know, ive watched EVERY LFC match with the exception of Carling Cup Games for the best part of 3 years now. iF im not over in the city I watch it on the foreign satellite feed in a local bar. EVERY MATCH. You are a self opinionated 5hitstirrer who has continually ignored all the facts that are there regarding his benefits and contributions, not to mention the opinions of his fellow players, coaching staff, football experts and other fans, instead regurgating your biased, untrue views then resorting to petty insults to put yourself over. IfiI wanted a flame war i would make you look like a fool, as previos posters have found out, but your not worth the effort, and its not worth getting a card or a ban for doing something as crazy as defending a player from the club I love

Thats It. Im finished on this subject. Everyones entitled to an opinion. however, TBPH if its derogatory about Liverpool FC, its staff, players or supporters  who tbph are sick to death of this same old cr@p I suggest you that from now on you keep it to yourself.

That's an impressive CV. You'd think you'd know more about the players you're watching...

Make me look a fool if you can, you're a stranger on an internet messageboard ffs! :laugh:

I'll express my opinions as I choose until told otherwise by one of the guys who moderate this place, thanks all the same.

If you don't like or agree with my opinion, frankly, that's not my problem.  :p
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Postby Yooj Bigullz » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:03 pm

GYBS wrote:Is it over stating the importance of those contributions ? that goal earnt us a lot of money , just like ones last year did as well . he did what no one else could do including 30 mill odd pound worth of strikers - he got on the end of a cross and scored .

yeah he did get as many goals as berbatov did in first season .

Forget finances and repercussions, it counts for little on the pitch. He ghosted in at the far post and curled it in with his shin. Well done, nice one, game won.

He still lacks quality though, and a tap in in any match won't make me change my opinion on that
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:04 pm

GYBS, would u rather have kuyt or berba playing in your team against a team who played like stoke? kuyt all hard work..berba, lazy but one moment of individual brilliance could do the trick.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:05 pm

Finances and repercussions count for a lot more on the pitch than you state . if it wasnt for finances we may not have players like torres and masher in the squad so the goal was a bit more important than that . and how cares if it came of his shin ? did torres or keane score that night ? 30 odd million pounds worth of strikers ?

once agian kuyt not getting credit where its deserved
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Postby Rush Job » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:05 pm

burjennio wrote:If wanted a flame war i would make you look like a fool, as previos posters have found out

:laugh:  You bin on the fanta?
Dont judge a book by the cover, unless you cover just another, because blind exceptance is a sign,
Of stupid fools who stand in line......  Like..
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:05 pm

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GYBS wrote:Yes i think he should be in the team more often than not . he proves his worth in the team . i think he is good enough and if we dont win the league its not because of him . plenty of teams have won the league with decent players in the team/squad and thats what kuyt is - decent . and kuyt may of only got into the dutch squad because seedorf(not sure if thats the case or noy) wasnt there but he was still picked ahead of both robben and huntelaar in the euros .

I think that argument would carry a little more weight if Holland had won the Euro rather than disappointing as usual.

I think Kuyt is a hard working player that seems like a nice bloke, but who should be a squad player rather than a regular first team player.

If he is so good in Europe ...... play him in European games but 3 goals in a season and a bit, seems a very small return in the league, especially for a team that has very few regular goal scorers. Can we afford to play someone every week who's main contribution is hard work, when its creativity and lack of goals that is seemingly our biggest problem?

ok what about kuyt being the second highest in assists last year behind gerrard ? and already created chances and goals this season .

Kuyt made 4 assists in the league last season and scored 3 goals, thats playing half a season as a striker and half a season as a right sided forward. Not what I would call a great return from 2163mins in the league. Babel another player that is currently out of favour with some for example scored 4 and made 3 assists from 1415 mins in the league.

As I have said previously I think we need someone with more to offer than hard work as a regular starter.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:06 pm

i would rather have kuyt than berbatov . i dont rate berbatov as highly as some . think he is decent but nowhere near world class or worth 30 mil .
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Postby Jimmy the Weasel » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:07 pm

GYBS wrote:i would rather have kuyt than berbatov . i dont rate berbatov as highly as some . think he is decent but nowhere near world class or worth 30 mil .

Oh man, come on!!

Is that sarcasm??
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Postby puroresu » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:08 pm

GYBS wrote:i would rather have kuyt than berbatov . i dont rate berbatov as highly as some . think he is decent but nowhere near world class or worth 30 mil .

Please explain what you base this decision on?  What exactly does Kuyt have in his game which berbatov doesnt.  If its just workrate then sadly you dont appreciate gifted footballers.
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Postby Yooj Bigullz » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:08 pm

GYBS wrote:
Yooj Bigullz wrote:
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Yooj Bigullz wrote:Yes it's spin. It can go either depending whether you think he's pony or not.

I agree he has created, but it's not enough, nowhere near enough. Look at the sides who've won the league recently, they don't carry passengers like Kuyt in attacking positions.

but he has created more than any other wide player of midfielder in the squad bar gerrard plus more than all the other strikers ? pennant played a season and a half at wide right and got not even half of the amount of assists kuyt got last year ?

I don't buy into assist stats much really. eg Masher won the ball and created an opportunity, yet Dirk gets the assist after rolling a 10 yard square pass that anyone could have made. I'd go as far as to say Masher created that.

Again, I think you're overstating his importance and contribution

And that my friend is perfect example of people refusing to give kuyt credit for making a goal . masher did a tackle and kept the ball alive - yep he did great , kuyt lacthed onto it and picked out a team mates run perfectly for him to score.

And that my friend is a classic example of you overstating his contribution and importance to the team

He was in space and rolled a square ball accross to a teammate, after Masher created the opportunity.

Well done, he made a pass that anybody with two legs could have made. You'll have to forgive me for not salivating over his complicated and intricate part in the goal

Credit where its due, and Mascherano deserves plenty more in the example I mentioned imo
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Postby GYBS » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:08 pm

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GYBS wrote:Yes i think he should be in the team more often than not . he proves his worth in the team . i think he is good enough and if we dont win the league its not because of him . plenty of teams have won the league with decent players in the team/squad and thats what kuyt is - decent . and kuyt may of only got into the dutch squad because seedorf(not sure if thats the case or noy) wasnt there but he was still picked ahead of both robben and huntelaar in the euros .

I think that argument would carry a little more weight if Holland had won the Euro rather than disappointing as usual.

I think Kuyt is a hard working player that seems like a nice bloke, but who should be a squad player rather than a regular first team player.

If he is so good in Europe ...... play him in European games but 3 goals in a season and a bit, seems a very small return in the league, especially for a team that has very few regular goal scorers. Can we afford to play someone every week who's main contribution is hard work, when its creativity and lack of goals that is seemingly our biggest problem?

ok what about kuyt being the second highest in assists last year behind gerrard ? and already created chances and goals this season .

Kuyt made 4 assists in the league last season and scored 3 goals, thats playing half a season as a striker and half a season as a right sided forward. Not what I would call a great return from 2163mins in the league. Babel another player that is currently out of favour with some for example scored 4 and made 3 assists from 1415 mins in the league.

As I have said previously I think we need someone with more to offer than hard work as a regular starter.

there is more than just the league these days im afraid - its all four competitions that matter not just the league .
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:09 pm

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burjennio wrote:If wanted a flame war i would make you look like a fool, as previos posters have found out

:laugh:  You bin on the fanta?

he has an ego problem
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Postby Yooj Bigullz » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:09 pm

GYBS wrote:i would rather have kuyt than berbatov . i dont rate berbatov as highly as some . think he is decent but nowhere near world class or worth 30 mil .

:laugh: What you smoking fella?

I want some too
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Postby GYBS » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:10 pm

Jimmy the Weasel wrote:
GYBS wrote:i would rather have kuyt than berbatov . i dont rate berbatov as highly as some . think he is decent but nowhere near world class or worth 30 mil .

Oh man, come on!!

Is that sarcasm??

nope im being genuine - berbatov is a lazy fecker who spends have his time complaining and whinging on the bench . sorry but wouldnt want him near the club . he is decent just not worth the money paid for him .
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:11 pm

GYBS wrote:i would rather have kuyt than berbatov . i dont rate berbatov as highly as some . think he is decent but nowhere near world class or worth 30 mil .

read my question again : would u rather have kuyt or berba playing in your team against a team who played like stoke? kuyt all hard work..berba, lazy but one moment of individual brilliance could do the trick.
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