LIVERPOOL vs WIGAN: 02/01/08 - Build up and Match Discussion

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Postby metalhead » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:45 pm

Dundalk wrote:Rafa on the radio saying we need luck and we were creating chances.

Asked about the league he said we will take one game at a time.

Dodged the question

He knows its over.
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Postby joeglfc22 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:47 pm

What does Liverpool Football Club do now then, stick with Rafa, and hope he stop being so :censored: stubon, or give him to the summer and if he doe's not deliver any silerware then he should go because that quote about ferguson nearly getting the sack fair comment, but it is a different game now lad's come on it a billionaires play ground now and if you dont deliver then u have to go, spending all the money and playing like that agianst :censored: team's at homeit's not on, were does it end.
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Postby puroresu » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:47 pm

rafa knows the league is over.  Why is it chelsea lose there manager, lose terry, carvalho, drogba, lampard yet win games they should be winning.  We have dropped so many points this season just like last year.
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:47 pm

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joeglfc22 wrote:Emerald red u gob :censored: i bet ur 1 of them fans who would still sing him name in the next match like 90% of the reds who have been DREAMING thinking were going to win the league under Rafa he is simply not good enough. Like 90% of the team.

You've a short memory, son. Three years ago, Rafa delivered us arguably the greatest night in this clubs history. I will always remember him for it, and so long as he manages our team, he will always have my support even if is difficult to fathom at times.

I'll bet three years ago you were shouting his name about the place like he was God or something. Now all people like you do is moan because he's not making much progress in the league. NEWS FLASH: we've been struggling for 14 years in the league before he came.

Yes but that doesnt mean Rafa gets unlimitied time.  This is his 4th season.  How long do u wanna give him before we actually challenge for the title.  All I wanted this season was to be in the race for the title.  Think back to the summer and all the talk of us fighting for the title and arsenal fighting for 4th with spurs. That talk looks real stupid now.

If we finish 4th is that acceptable?  Do we now see this as a success.

Even when were unbeaten I wasnt happy as the style of football was a joke.  Now we are losing there is no positives.

I've maintained for a while now that we won't win the title. I've said that our goal should be getting close by at least 6 points behind the eventual winners. If this happens and we win one of the other competitions we are in, I'd see that as progress, yes. I'm not saying Rafa should have unlimited time, but he should at least be given another two more seasons if what I said previously ends up being an eventuality.
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Postby LittleHobo » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:47 pm

i dont like how rafa never holds his hands up and admits failure

its a pretty weak and stubborn quality
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Postby Woollyback » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:47 pm

^^ he gives those answers in every interview, regardless of how we've played or what the result was
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Postby holylamb2006 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:48 pm

we need luck and we were creating chances


He says the same thing over and over again ...

I'm actually wondering if he is a tape recorder :D
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Postby puroresu » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:49 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
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joeglfc22 wrote:Emerald red u gob :censored: i bet ur 1 of them fans who would still sing him name in the next match like 90% of the reds who have been DREAMING thinking were going to win the league under Rafa he is simply not good enough. Like 90% of the team.

You've a short memory, son. Three years ago, Rafa delivered us arguably the greatest night in this clubs history. I will always remember him for it, and so long as he manages our team, he will always have my support even if is difficult to fathom at times.

I'll bet three years ago you were shouting his name about the place like he was God or something. Now all people like you do is moan because he's not making much progress in the league. NEWS FLASH: we've been struggling for 14 years in the league before he came.

Yes but that doesnt mean Rafa gets unlimitied time.  This is his 4th season.  How long do u wanna give him before we actually challenge for the title.  All I wanted this season was to be in the race for the title.  Think back to the summer and all the talk of us fighting for the title and arsenal fighting for 4th with spurs. That talk looks real stupid now.

If we finish 4th is that acceptable?  Do we now see this as a success.

Even when were unbeaten I wasnt happy as the style of football was a joke.  Now we are losing there is no positives.

I've maintained for a while now that we won't win the title. I've said that our goal should be getting close by at least 6 points behind the eventual winners. If this happens and we win one of the other competitions we are in, I'd see that as progress, yes. I'm not saying Rafa should have unlimited time, but he should at least be given another two more seasons if what I said previously ends up being an eventuality.

can u honestly see us getting within 6 points of the title winners?  I cant see that at all.  If we progress in the CL i can see league games being take less seriously by rafa as the title has gone.
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Postby percy99999 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:49 pm

[QUOTE How long do u wanna give him before we actually challenge for the title]

At least six years.
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Postby LittleHobo » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:49 pm

i would love him to at least come out and admit he failed today, tactics too negative and bringing 2 strikers on with 9 minutes to go was silly, too late by then

at least if you heard him admit he got it wrong it would give you a bit of confidence that he at least realises at times he drops clangers
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:50 pm

joeglfc22 wrote:What does Liverpool Football Club do now then, stick with Rafa, and hope he stop being so :censored: stubon, or give him to the summer and if he doe's not deliver any silerware then he should go because that quote about ferguson nearly getting the sack fair comment, but it is a different game now lad's come on it a billionaires play ground now and if you dont deliver then u have to go, spending all the money and playing like that agianst :censored: team's at homeit's not on, were does it end.

I think it ends with a full stop, as should most of that massive sentence you just wrote also.
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Postby Santa » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:50 pm

metalhead wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Rafa on the radio saying we need luck and we were creating chances.

Asked about the league he said we will take one game at a time.

Dodged the question

He knows its over.

I presumed he'll now be focusing on training and coaching his team?
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Postby tubby » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:51 pm

holylamb2006 wrote:
we need luck and we were creating chances


He says the same thing over and over again ...

I'm actually wondering if he is a tape recorder :D

lol

Yeah it is getting tiresome hearing the same thing every other game isnt it. Ah well we only have the FA Cup and European Cup left so lets just get behind the lads for that.

When we signed Torres most of us knew that we were still 1 or 2 players away from really challanging. Its sad to say but this is the difference between us and the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea, They can kill these sort of games off without breaking  a sweat where as we take our foot of the brakes as soon as were a goal up.
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Postby holylamb2006 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:51 pm

With all the poles and votes that say we want to win the PL more than the champion league ....

Rafa still in his own world thinks the champo league is more important .....

I hate his stubbornness ( cant spell )
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:53 pm

joeglfc22 wrote:before rafa was here mate, Shankly,Paisly,Fagan,Daghlish won a lot more than he could ever dream of so get out of Benitez :censored:'s,
Not being funny he's just another houllier. have a chat with me in may when weve finished 4th at best then lets see what you say about Benitez.

Aye, he's just another Houllier! How many Champions League finals did he take us to again?
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