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sgs wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

sgs wrote:

lakes10 wrote:sorry but i look at the players that the club have in full and i think to myself.....how the did they end up here.
any manager would have found it hard with this team right now, if Kenny comes in he would need huge amounts of cash to build a team.

this team dont cut it in this club

One has to be mentally challenged to look at this LFC team with about 13 internationals and yet reach the conclusion u just did!

no mate again your very short in your vision, i am talking about all the players under the lfc banner, all the young kids aswell, i have never seen this club with sucj a weak bench as it has this year and the end of last year

If am short in my vision then u are as blind as a bat! The 1st team squad contains about 13 internationals; it may not be good enough to challenge for the title, but it is far better than the stale soup we are being served!

Lakes was one of Rafas biggest critics from day one, its hardly suprising he's defending our english manager and his 35 years of winning fuck all now is it? 

lakes10 wrote:

Raoul wrote:lakes and LFC2007 how many of Stoke's or Wigan's player would you buy? They made us look poor. Or is not the players or something else?

Clearly there are problems with the depth and quality of the squad, but I'm not sure that is our biggest problem right now...

right now all of them, most of them have more skill that most of our fisrt team and almost all of our 2nd team. the SH1T that has been taken to this club over the years is shocking, we forgot a long time ago how to grow real home grown players.

Yeah so they finished 2nd with a record points finish, so the were mixing it up in the latter stages of the CL every year. Stoke are better than that right? 

Stop trying to make excuses Lakes, you were in that same bandwagon saying how we were just lacking a motivator and now he has been shown up to be a shower or rubbish you are looking for other excuses.

bigmick wrote:

maguskwt wrote:Spot on mate. The simple fact of the matter is we don't have enough good players. Too many of them don't want it enough, and too many of them aren't good enough.

Oh right! so now you've changed your tune again...

No I haven't. Why do I bother talking football with you numpties .

How have I changed my tune, I think the team is good enough to challenge for the top four. Teams which are good enough to challenge for the top four put in spinelss and sh!t performances from time to time. Check out Spurs getting hammered at Bolton last week, check out Villa getting done by six at newcastle. The reason this happens and they don't always put in a good shift, is because like us they have too many players who don't want it enough and aren't top quality.

Now stop being a t!t and enjoy yourself.[/quote]
It seems some people not only know little about football, they can't read either. For the second time, here is the unequivical answer to the "backtracking" accusations.

sgs wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

sgs wrote:

lakes10 wrote:sorry but i look at the players that the club have in full and i think to myself.....how the did they end up here.
any manager would have found it hard with this team right now, if Kenny comes in he would need huge amounts of cash to build a team.

this team dont cut it in this club

One has to be mentally challenged to look at this LFC team with about 13 internationals and yet reach the conclusion u just did!

no mate again your very short in your vision, i am talking about all the players under the lfc banner, all the young kids aswell, i have never seen this club with sucj a weak bench as it has this year and the end of last year

If am short in my vision then u are as blind as a bat! The 1st team squad contains about 13 internationals; it may not be good enough to challenge for the title, but it is far better than the stale soup we are being served!

well they were still last year mate and they are still this year, new manager and we are still , we nedd a re thinking of how this club is run and what sort of players are needed and how the grows its players and and the 1st team and 2nd team is run and set up.

the owners have gone but the smell still remains

Emerald Red wrote:

only me wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:If anyone is going to say that the team we have with the players we have in it aren't capable of going away and beating the Stokes and Wigans of this league and be serious, then they should follow a different sport.

nobody said that ,we are capable of winning but we are sure as hell capable of losing to any team and any where. If you can't see it you are just living in the past.

Of course we're capable of losing. The thing is about what you said is that now we look consistent of losing to these sort of teams. Last season, as bad as it was, we were controlling football matches for the duration. We haven't done that once this season so far.

We were weak last year we are even weaker this year (without Mash ,Yossi and Riera)..So yes i can see us losing consistently on the road...It doesn' make me happy to say that but that is reality.

zarababe wrote:How are you feelin BM - cos despite wanting this to work out, I knew he weren't up to this and so did many die hard reds..

Not good Zara to be honest. Watching that, and seeing the quality of the players we have on the bench it is very worrying. It looks increasingly like we have followed one average manager with another one, and even a good manager is going to have a job on sorting through some of this sh!t.

bigmick wrote:

bavlondon wrote:You know what Emerald, I hope all those snakes who wanted Rafa out are happy now. Nice one! They can all take the blame with Roy for this.

You know what I don't even hate Roy for it, I knew from the get go he wasn't good enough, he has never been good enough and he never will. This is embarrassing for the club and the players. Not to mention the fans.

He needs to resign asap.

Ah the old "I told you so" post. It's all well and good Bav, but one of the main voices wanting Benitez out was YOU fella   

Thank feck we did get him out as well, it's him who signed most of these numpties.

Oh your really short of excuses tonight mate.

For the record I said all along you don't get rid of a top class manager unless you have a proper replacement. Bringing in Roy for Rafa was like trying to put a silk hat on a pig.

bavlondon wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

bigmick wrote:Too many of them don't want it enough, and too many of them aren't good enough.

That's strange, it wasn't so long ago that you said we had a squad capable of finishing in the top 4 and even a title push. Now you are resigned to the fact that they are not good enough?

Do you think it's at all possible the manager is to blame?

Exactly. Last season the manager was sacked for not getting us into the top four because thats where this team was supposed to be at. So which is it now?

You know what Emerald, I hope all those snakes who wanted Rafa out are happy now. Nice one! They can all take the blame with Roy for this.

You know what I don't even hate Roy for it, I knew from the get go he wasn't good enough, he has never been good enough and he never will. This is embarrassing for the club and the players. Not to mention the fans.

He needs to resign asap.

I just can't see how they can defend him, Bav, then keep backtracking on the sh*t they were going on about last season about how we failed because of Rafa's bad managment. It wasn't the players. Sure the team had the likes of Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano et al. Yes, we lost Mascherano in the summer, but look who we (sorry, he) replaced him with and then lent out a quality midfielder in his place. Our first 11, as it stands, is more than capable of at least controlling a football match against the likes of Wigan and Stoke, but instead we look as if we're sh*tting bricks against Barcelona.

Lakes made a good point about Roy using the same formation and system as Rafa last year, only he used the word tactics instead. Yes, Roy has used the same formation, with largely the same players, but somehow we are playing drastically worse. We can't keep the ball. We can't attack. So what does that come down to? Instructions from the manager. The players must take some flak for the performances, but it's a massive symptom of the tactics this manager is employing.

Ciggy wrote:

sgs wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

sgs wrote:

lakes10 wrote:sorry but i look at the players that the club have in full and i think to myself.....how the did they end up here.
any manager would have found it hard with this team right now, if Kenny comes in he would need huge amounts of cash to build a team.

this team dont cut it in this club

One has to be mentally challenged to look at this LFC team with about 13 internationals and yet reach the conclusion u just did!

no mate again your very short in your vision, i am talking about all the players under the lfc banner, all the young kids aswell, i have never seen this club with sucj a weak bench as it has this year and the end of last year

If am short in my vision then u are as blind as a bat! The 1st team squad contains about 13 internationals; it may not be good enough to challenge for the title, but it is far better than the stale soup we are being served!

Lakes was one of Rafas biggest critics from day one, its hardly suprising he's defending our english manager and his 35 years of winning fuck all now is it? 

Let's Agree that Rafa was ,leaving us with most of the players we have now and Roy is no better...Can't we all just get along 

bavlondon wrote:Oh your really short of excuses tonight mate.

For the record I said all along you don't get rid of a top class manager unless you have a proper replacement. Bringing in Roy for Rafa was like trying to put a silk hat on a pig.

"We told you so". Course you don't get rid of a top class manager unless you have a good replacement. The truth is though we didn't have a top class manager, so you take a chance on trying to find one.

ALL of this stuff Bav, ALL of your posts are actually about Benitez   

bigmick wrote:It looks increasingly like we have followed one average manager with another one

Oh mate you do really make me laugh. Even when you know your man has been shown up you still can't resist a pop