New Manager - Who would you have? (merged thread)

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Postby tonyeh » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:11 pm

Dundalk wrote:Its defo not going to be Redkanpp

Redknapp, "I'm not being presumptuous turning down Liverpool, because I haven't been offered the job and haven't spoken to anyone about it. "There is no need, as I have one year left on my contract at Tottenham and I'm not thinking about anything other than being at White Hart Lane next season. "I can tell you I've not been offered a new contract, but that doesn't mean I'm looking to move on. Far from it. "I'm loyal to Spurs, I want to stay at Spurs and I have a contract with Spurs. I'd be happy to sign a new contract at Spurs if I was offered one."

Thank God for that

There's nothing in there that says he wouldn't take the Liverpool job, if offered.

All Harry's doing here is playing a good media game. He's saying here that Liverpool haven't approached him re: the job. He's also saying that Spurs haven't approached him either with a new contract. But, he'll take it, if offered.

There's no real commitment either way here.

In fact, one could read that as a wink to Liverpool to get the arses in gear if they want to make an offer, or else Spurs will get him.

For me to totally write off Harry from being the next Liverpool manager, he would have to categorically state that he absolutely didn't want the Liverpool managers job.

Any other shite and the game remains on.
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Postby tubby » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:12 pm

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Lee J wrote:and it's not ar$e licking - it's called 'supporting our next manager' (if he should get the job).

Like people supported rafa you mean ???

Would Chelsea, United, Spurs, Arsenal, City want him?

The answer is no and he should not even be considered for such a big club, this is on par with the signing of Robbie keane that shouldnt have happened neither should this, mark my words it will all end in tears even before the Christmas.

0-0 draws all over the shop 10 men behind the ball, if people thought Rafa was defensive wait till this fella arrives.

Doesnt no one remember the end of last season when Fulham came to Anfield and the yard dogs didnt even move over the halfway line?
Feck my life might aswell give fat Sam the job they are of the same ilk.

They tw@tted us at the cottage though ciggs.

They twatted Utd and Chelsea there too but I don't think either of those clubs would ever consider him for manager.

Is this why people want O'Neil here?  :D

I suppose it has more to do with the fact that he isn't going to kick up a fuss in the slightest that he will have next to nothing to spend. And he has done ok with Fulham so all things considered he is the right man for the job (from the owners perspective)

Although I don't think he is big enough a character to convince Gerrard, Torres and Mascherano to stay.
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Postby stmichael » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:12 pm

Scottbot wrote:Hodgson's record isn't amazing but it's not a bad CV either.

As far as I'm concerned, if he manages to motivate the players so that the players look like they enjoy playing football for Liverpool again, then the CV doesn't really matter. We played several games last season where the players didn't look like they enjoyed playing football.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:18 pm

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RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:If I finish a contract and the figure agreed is diluted in any respect ,I would be on the blower to my solicitor before I left the room
the fact benitez settled on a more agreeable sum underlines the mans character

No it doesnt, it means he knew he had another job lined up and would have been unable to take it if he wanted the full 16 million  :;):

And i am not disputing the fact that he was entitled to the money.
I am saying a) he didnt desrerve it.
b) given the clubs financial state and the fact that he was walking into a new job immediately that is higher paid to me shows his love for the club and our fans is not what some would try and have us believe.

Then we have exhausted our debate, and I will be dropping off a pair of binoculars next time I'm staying at the Village Hotel in the Wirral  :laugh:
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Postby Ben Patrick » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:19 pm

stmichael wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Hodgson's record isn't amazing but it's not a bad CV either.

As far as I'm concerned, if he manages to motivate the players so that the players look like they enjoy playing football for Liverpool again, then the CV doesn't really matter. We played several games last season where the players didn't look like they enjoyed playing football.

What he said.
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Postby Ben Patrick » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:24 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
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RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:If I finish a contract and the figure agreed is diluted in any respect ,I would be on the blower to my solicitor before I left the room
the fact benitez settled on a more agreeable sum underlines the mans character

No it doesnt, it means he knew he had another job lined up and would have been unable to take it if he wanted the full 16 million  :;):

And i am not disputing the fact that he was entitled to the money.
I am saying a) he didnt desrerve it.
b) given the clubs financial state and the fact that he was walking into a new job immediately that is higher paid to me shows his love for the club and our fans is not what some would try and have us believe.

Then we have exhausted our debate, and I will be dropping off a pair of binoculars next time I'm staying at the Village Hotel in the Wirral  :laugh:

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Postby jacdaniel » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:25 pm

Hodgson can't be given the role.  We should try to start some campaign to stop this mess from ever happening.  All he's good for is taking :censored: teams and making them slightly better.  Like Moyes etc.

but there is a big difference between that and manager of Liverpool were you'll be expected to win titles and never lose a game.  (and possibily still get sacked)
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Postby Ben Patrick » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:41 pm

jacdaniel wrote:Hodgson can't be given the role.  We should try to start some campaign to stop this mess from ever happening.  All he's good for is taking :censored: teams and making them slightly better.  Like Moyes etc.

but there is a big difference between that and manager of Liverpool were you'll be expected to win titles and never lose a game.  (and possibily still get sacked)

Your not expected to win titles.

The fans that wanted Benitez to go are realistic enough to realise its not an easy role.
But we expect better than 7th and getting battered in an easyish champions league group.
And then knocked out of the FA cup at home to Reading.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:50 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:If I finish a contract and the figure agreed is diluted in any respect ,I would be on the blower to my solicitor before I left the room
the fact benitez settled on a more agreeable sum underlines the mans character

No it doesnt, it means he knew he had another job lined up and would have been unable to take it if he wanted the full 16 million  :;):

And i am not disputing the fact that he was entitled to the money.
I am saying a) he didnt desrerve it.
b) given the clubs financial state and the fact that he was walking into a new job immediately that is higher paid to me shows his love for the club and our fans is not what some would try and have us believe.

Then we have exhausted our debate, and I will be dropping off a pair of binoculars next time I'm staying at the Village Hotel in the Wirral  :laugh:

If you want a cheap room giz a shout, my mates the manager of the bar there and gets me rooms for well cheap  :D

All at the company's expense but thanks mate
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Postby tubby » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:53 pm

jacdaniel wrote:Hodgson can't be given the role.  We should try to start some campaign to stop this mess from ever happening.  All he's good for is taking :censored: teams and making them slightly better.  Like Moyes etc.

but there is a big difference between that and manager of Liverpool were you'll be expected to win titles and never lose a game.  (and possibily still get sacked)

Hopefully I won't get shot down for this but I think it's fair to say our target next season will NOT be pushing for the title, or even a top 4 finish for that matter.

It will probably be ensuring we don't slip down any lower than we finished this season. The thing is that task will probably become all more harder if we lose any more key players.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:04 pm

Scottbot wrote:Now I don't think Hodsgon has the profile to be the manager of Liverpool Football Club and under normal circumstances I don't think he'd get much of a look in BUT i'll tell ya what, he would have done (in my opinion) a hell of a better job than Benitez with those players last season. I'd put my house on it. We were fookin terrible last year, absolutely stunk the place up, there's no getting away from it, and we quite possibly would have stunk the place up again this time around with Rafa in charge going into next season.

Hodgson's record isn't amazing but it's not a bad CV either. He's never rearly had a one of the BIG teams to manage so I don't think he has had that much opportunity as far as winning championships. He took the Swiss to the World Cup in 94 and got them to the last 16. He qualified comfortably for Euro 96 before leaving before the tournament started. He steadied the ship at a struggling Inter Milan side in the mid-nineties, taking them to a UEFA Cup final. The blackburn stinit was not so good, he finished 7th (i think) in his 1st season which was good but bought poorly (Kevin Davies and Ashley Ward spring to mind) and left the club in mid-season with them sitting bottom of the table. Most of his other jobs have been working in Scandanavian countries, generally successfully, he won several titles with Malmo I believe and has had some under-dog success in European comps with a number of teams. The job he has been doing at Fulham has been belittled by a number of posters on here but to take a club on the brink of relegation to mid-table safety and a UEFA Cup final is no mean feat, is it? We might view a UEFA Cup final as 'Euro Disney' (not that we could get to the final) but it was quite a big deal to Fulham.

I hope it's Kenny coz Hodgson won't strand a chance in this place. Santimonious posters whinge on about poor Rafa getting grief after 4-5 years but Hodgson has copped his fair share already and he hasn't even got the job.

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Postby zarababe » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:32 pm

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RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:If I finish a contract and the figure agreed is diluted in any respect ,I would be on the blower to my solicitor before I left the room
the fact benitez settled on a more agreeable sum underlines the mans character

No it doesnt, it means he knew he had another job lined up and would have been unable to take it if he wanted the full 16 million  :;):

And i am not disputing the fact that he was entitled to the money.
I am saying a) he didnt desrerve it.
b) given the clubs financial state and the fact that he was walking into a new job immediately that is higher paid to me shows his love for the club and our fans is not what some would try and have us believe.

Shut-up - he was ENTITLED TO 16 MILL.. HE TOOK 6MILL, I WOULD HAVE TAKEN 16M, IF I  HAD BEEN TREATED THE WAY HE HAS BEEN AND THE :censored: HE HAS HAD TO PUT-UP WITH..

WE GOT OF LIGHTLY ACTUALLY..
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Postby zarababe » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:35 pm

Truly depressing - if we are about to offer Hodgson the job, what does that say about the options open to us :angry:

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Postby Ben Patrick » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:40 pm

zarababe wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:If I finish a contract and the figure agreed is diluted in any respect ,I would be on the blower to my solicitor before I left the room
the fact benitez settled on a more agreeable sum underlines the mans character

No it doesnt, it means he knew he had another job lined up and would have been unable to take it if he wanted the full 16 million  :;):

And i am not disputing the fact that he was entitled to the money.
I am saying a) he didnt desrerve it.
b) given the clubs financial state and the fact that he was walking into a new job immediately that is higher paid to me shows his love for the club and our fans is not what some would try and have us believe.

Shut-up - he was ENTITLED TO 16 MILL.. HE TOOK 6MILL, I WOULD HAVE TAKEN 16M, IF I  HAD BEEN TREATED THE WAY HE HAS BEEN AND THE :censored: HE HAS HAD TO PUT-UP WITH..

WE GOT OF LIGHTLY ACTUALLY..

That's because you appear to care more about Rafa than the club.

I hate the owners also but there is no way i am having that he deserved ANY compensation.
He has walked straight into a new job on more money.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:04 pm

Tonight's Liverpool Echo

HARRY REDKNAPP has distanced himself from speculation linking him with the vacant Liverpool job and backed Kenny Dalglish to take over at Anfield.

Former Reds striker Robbie Fowler is among those who have hailed the Tottenham manager as the perfect replacement for Rafa Benitez at Anfield.

Redknapp has transformed Spurs from relegation candidates to Champions League qualifiers in the space of 18 months.

However, the 63-year-old insists he has no intention of leaving White Hart Lane for Merseyside and wants to sign a new contract to extend his stay in the capital.

“I am not being presumptuous turning down Liverpool, because I haven’t been offered the job and haven’t spoken to anyone about it,” he said.

“There is no need, as I have one year left on my contract at Tottenham and I am not thinking about anything other than being at White Hart Lane next season.

“I can tell you that I have not been offered a new contract, but that doesn’t mean I am looking to move on – far from it.

“I am loyal to Spurs, I want to stay at Spurs and I have a contract with Spurs, and I’d be happy to sign a new contract at Spurs if I was offered one, but in any case I have one year on my contract.”

Redknapp believes Dalglish, who is leading the search for Benitez’s successor, is the ideal candidate to take over as manager

He added: “Why not give it to Kenny Dalglish? I am sure he would want it, and why not?

“He is Liverpool through and through. He would be a good man for the job.

“He has experience, he knows exactly what is needed at Liverpool and the players would love it, especially someone like Steven Gerrard who would, I am sure, respond to the appointment of Dalglish as manager there.”

Meanwhile, Liverpool legend Ian St John has called on the board to appoint a British manager. He wants the Reds to look closer to home after six-year spells for Gerard Houllier and Benitez.

St John said: “Personally I hope we get a British manager. We’ve had over 10 years of foreign managers. Take away the night in Istanbul and the whole club seems to have changed.”

St John has backed the club’s decision to end Benitez’s reign.

“Rafa can’t really complain – he had six years and spent a lot of money,” St John adds. “At the end of the six years he didn’t have a squad strong enough to win the Premier League or to finish in the top four.

“The way the team had been playing in the last couple of seasons I just felt we had hit the buffers. The football that we always went to Anfield to watch was mundane.”




So Dalglish is still the leading contender to manage Liverpool apparently ..... there still exists a slight glimmer of hope then ?
and in other news Ian St  John renews  hostilities with all things of a foreign nature :laugh:
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