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by **Maickito** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:33 pm

If we did get new owners and they decided Rafa's time was up then its would be an exciting time - the likes of Capello , Riijark , MON and so on are been thrown out there but I wonder would any of ye be prepared to give a young manager a go ? an up and coming manager???

Laurent La Blanc
Dan Petrescu
Joachim Loew
Markus Babbel ( League form is a bit average I admit)
None of these have have the titles that Benitez had when coming to Liverpool but it isnt necessarily a guarantee either that you'll do well in the Premiership

Barcelona and a couple of other top European clubs seem to be a bit more ball-sy about these things- if we did need a new manager in the summer then I'd be all for given a young manager a shot on a 2 year contract- its pretty obvious that any team with Torres and Gerrard doesnt need a 5 year plan - this 5 year plan gives a new manager far too many excuses in my opinion- We have a team of top internationals- Rafa brought a lot of them in I admit that but they seem a bit lost under his management style- Maybe some young gun could fire them all up & relate to players like Babel

It's just a thought- not trying to antagonize any pro rafa fans

by **Greavesie** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:42 pm

I said a while ago that I wouldnt mind Blanc as manager. I would prefer Jose or Lippi tho. Given the fact that we're not in the CL next season we may not have the pick of the bunch

by **Maickito** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:47 pm

and maybe some of the names i mentioned are not quite up to scratch but I just think if we are without benitez this summer than the next guy should be young and not give 5 years - he should be given 2 years to prove his worth, we do have a team capable of winning the league I think , we need a fresh manager like blanc who can pick up some gems for fill in the squad.................we haven't really seen a gem who cost very little bought in a while----i do think our scouting squad is shi=te and that the focus is on quantity and not quality

by **rocky29** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:15 pm

we need stability why the hell would we want a young inexperienced manager. Lippi trappertoni or capello. Forget about age. Look at roy hodgson age hasnt harmed him has it

by **Maickito** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:08 pm

Hey hands off Trappertoni - he is the manager of my country :cool:

by **sixbuster** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:24 pm

there are only 2 capable of sorting this mess up, Capello or "The Special One", don't care what anybody says. Go and try and entice them. Jose may be more willing to accept the challenge.

by **rocky29** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:05 pm

Maickito wrote:Hey hands off Trappertoni - he is the manager of my country

sorry ihmo lets do a swap for one season and see who does better? Rafa or trappa. I know who my money wud be on?

by **Kakloola** » Wed May 26, 2010 7:07 am

Rafa has done it well enough
if you look through his career then he got a net gain of 60 million
Champions league
Fa Cup
Second in premier league
Just cause he had a bad season doesnt mean that we kick him out
Gerrard had a bad season
Liverpool, the club itself did
The owners cant sell
Its alright
In Rafa, I trust

by **Tricky Dicky** » Wed May 26, 2010 2:58 pm

Is it Prandelli ? Or something like that, the manager of Fiorentina who outfoxed our very own Benitez this season in CL. I think he has done a very good job at Florence and his side play decent football as well. He wouldn't be a bad option in my opinion. I think he's been tipped to manage the Italian national side. Good manager.

by **Octsky** » Wed May 26, 2010 4:24 pm

sixbuster wrote:there are only 2 capable of sorting this mess up, Capello or "The Special One", don't care what anybody says. Go and try and entice them. Jose may be more willing to accept the challenge.

the "special one" ?
i have no respect for the man, fans who consider him is like driving in a fog towards a cliff.

imagine him winning the league with us then announcing that managing Manchester united is his life-long dream and he will be managing them sooner rather than later while old fergie is still the present manager!
this is what happened now, in real life with real madrid.

I will not want a manager that has no integrity and will stab us in the back at a drop of a hat.

wake up, people!!!

by **Ben Patrick** » Wed May 26, 2010 4:35 pm

Octsky wrote:
sixbuster wrote:there are only 2 capable of sorting this mess up, Capello or "The Special One", don't care what anybody says. Go and try and entice them. Jose may be more willing to accept the challenge.

the "special one" ?
i have no respect for the man, fans who consider him is like driving in a fog towards a cliff.

imagine him winning the league with us then announcing that managing Manchester united is his life-long dream and he will be managing them sooner rather than later while old fergie is still the present manager!
this is what happened now, in real life with real madrid.

I will not want a manager that has no integrity and will stab us in the back at a drop of a hat.

wake up, people!!!

While i agree that it was not nice what he did, your example doesnt hold up as Real and Inter are not in the same league and bitter rivals like us and united are.

by **Octsky** » Thu May 27, 2010 4:28 am

Ben Patrick wrote:
Octsky wrote:
sixbuster wrote:there are only 2 capable of sorting this mess up, Capello or "The Special One", don't care what anybody says. Go and try and entice them. Jose may be more willing to accept the challenge.

the "special one" ?
i have no respect for the man, fans who consider him is like driving in a fog towards a cliff.

imagine him winning the league with us then announcing that managing Manchester united is his life-long dream and he will be managing them sooner rather than later while old fergie is still the present manager!
this is what happened now, in real life with real madrid.

I will not want a manager that has no integrity and will stab us in the back at a drop of a hat.

wake up, people!!!

While i agree that it was not nice what he did, your example doesnt hold up as Real and Inter are not in the same league and bitter rivals like us and united are.

My point is he dont gives a sh1t, he is a selfish baste3d who only cares about himself.

It is not about us and mancs, or inter and ac or Rm and Barca.
Mancs legend Matt Busby used to play and coach LFC.
It is how your conduct on/off field and how u treat your colleagues is a direct reflection of your character.

by **Tricky Dicky** » Thu May 27, 2010 4:41 am

I did not realise that a persons character trait had to be indented on their CV. It certainly wasn't in times of 'need' when Liverpool slumped it in the old second division and a man named Bill Shankly arrived at the club. After all would the outspoken Shankly have been able to get a job today with statements like; 'If Everton we're playing football in the back of my garden, I'd draw the curtains shut', plus all the other mind game tricks he played to oppossing players and managers. I like humour, I like character that isn't considered the norm, life is more interesting that way. Obviously Mourinho and Shankly have different personalities and dispositions (perhaps) about football. But at the end of the day they're in a results driven industry and should be judged on that as much as anything. For example many LFC fans are saying their goodbyes to Aurelio, I personally see him as a monetary mercinary like Kewell, but that doesn't cloud my judgement on him as a footballer; which is, he's an okay player, not outstanding, not cr.ap but okay in my view. Yet many LFC fans are wishing him well and all the best blah blah when the mans character is not even questioned.

by **Owzat** » Thu May 27, 2010 6:47 am

Tricky Dicky wrote:Obviously Mourinho and Shankly have different personalities and dispositions (perhaps) about football. But at the end of the day they're in a results driven industry and should be judged on that as much as anything.

So you don't doubt that Josie could do well here bearing in mind he's only ever done well at :

FC PORTO - the biggest club in Portugal, known as one of the "tres grandes" (big three) and who've won SEVENTEEN of the last 26 Portugese titles (about 65%). His biggest achievement in my books is winning the European Cup with them, winning the league with them or subsequently was nothing "special", and even winning the European Cup is not so "massive" - Monaco reached the final also........................

CHELSEA - took over a club that had money being poured into it and finished second only to the "invincibles" the previous season.

INTER MILAN - have won the last FIVE league titles, so you might say they are the biggest club in Serie A (at the moment) Sure he won the European Cup, again more credit for that than winning the league but again they only beat Bayern Munich in the final

Tricky Dicky wrote:many LFC fans are saying their goodbyes to Aurelio, I personally see him as a monetary mercinary like Kewell, but that doesn't cloud my judgement on him as a footballer; which is, he's an okay player, not outstanding, not cr.ap but okay in my view. Yet many LFC fans are wishing him well and all the best blah blah when the mans character is not even questioned.

I don't disagree with most of that, people talk of Aurelio as if he was a key player, would be sadly missed and was a legend like Sami :no

BUT then it is ironic you point out what LFC fans do 'without question' and yet you and "many LFC fans" do exactly the same re Josie. He has picked out the biggest jobs with minimal failure chance since Porto, if he came here and had to cope without money then he might make us a more effective version of what Rafa has done ie still dull but getting (a few) better results, but I wouldn't guarantee he has a magic wand that he will wave and suddenly 19,20,21............... willl appear.

And he got found out at Chelsea, he made a right mess in his third season in charge and eventually was gone. In 06/07 he brought in Pizarro, Sidwell, Bouhlarouz, Ben Haim and Cashley and let a few decent players go, but crucially he left his central defence woefully short meaning we played them at Anfield with Essien at CB.

One thing you can guarantee is that Josie wouldn't come cheap, he picks his clubs carefully to make sure his reputation isn't damaged and so far that's worked for him. Had we moved for him at the end of last season he might have come, no way would his ego come here playing Euro Disney football and with only £40m (if usual spend is anything to go by) to rebuild a side that finished SEVENTH and is in big debt. I wouldn't be too surprised if he is a count and falls out with players easily, he's not been manager at a club for more than 185 games/three and a bit seasons so the extent of how true that might be is hard to judge. Could just as easily be too much of an arrogant dickhead that he falls out with the board and chairman even easier

by **Octsky** » Thu May 27, 2010 7:19 am

Tricky Dicky wrote:I did not realise that a persons character trait had to be indented on their CV. It certainly wasn't in times of 'need' when Liverpool slumped it in the old second division and a man named Bill Shankly arrived at the club. After all would the outspoken Shankly have been able to get a job today with statements like; 'If Everton we're playing football in the back of my garden, I'd draw the curtains shut', plus all the other mind game tricks he played to oppossing players and managers. I like humour, I like character that isn't considered the norm, life is more interesting that way. Obviously Mourinho and Shankly have different personalities and dispositions (perhaps) about football. But at the end of the day they're in a results driven industry and should be judged on that as much as anything.

"LFC is magic, everton is tragic"
"Football is more important than life and death"

pls dont compare the great man with the trash.
even when retired Shankly came back to watch the team regularly untill he felt that he was interferring with the team as the players still refer him as "boss".
He was LFC, bleed LFC and breathe LFC.
morhner? pls dont make me laugh.

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