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[Benny The Noon]

Experience doing what thou ? keeping a team safely mid table ?

i think i've explained myself pretty clearly in my previous post. but since you've asked, i'll repeat myself with a bit more detail.

at fulham (a club that at best should be a top 10 maximum), he brought them to the uefa cup final with limited resources and players who aren't household names. he got them to play as an effective unit.

if he joins liverpool (a club that should be in the top 4 minimum), he will have better players at his disposal hence he should, by right, be able to make better use of what he has.

The same manager who spent 20 million at blackburn after the reached 6th in the prem then got relegated - the same manager who took over at Inter and took them out of europe . the same manager who has won 4 games away in two seasons - the same manager who lost more games in the second half of the season when he took over from sanchez . Maclaren got boro to a final and has won the league in holland should we look to him as well .

nope we should have Souness instead 

Who mentioned souness ?

You can be happy with a mid table yes man manager if you want - i will have my sights a bit higher .

[maypaxvobiscum]

Imagine one of you guys where getting chatted up by say Pamela Anderson all night and ending up in bed with Susan Boyle. Appointing Hodgeson is something like this for example.

how can i disagree with you when you use such extreme comparisons?

ok, say Roy is our Susan Boyle that we end up with, who is the Pamela we've been chatting up all along? Kenny?

i'd do them both just to compare

im sure you can do one, while im equally sure the other will do YOU

[7_Kewell]

Imagine one of you guys where getting chatted up by say Pamela Anderson all night and ending up in bed with Susan Boyle. Appointing Hodgeson is something like this for example.

how can i disagree with you when you use such extreme comparisons?

ok, say Roy is our Susan Boyle that we end up with, who is the Pamela we've been chatting up all along? Kenny?

i'd do them both just to compare

im sure you can do one, while im equally sure the other will do YOU

[Reg]

Imagine one of you guys where getting chatted up by say Pamela Anderson all night and ending up in bed with Susan Boyle. Appointing Hodgeson is something like this for example.

Such a beautiful woman. I would do horrible, horrible things to her.

A shágs a shág! 

[jacdaniel]

at fulham (a club that at best should be a top 10 maximum), he brought them to the uefa cup final with limited resources and players who aren't household names. he got them to play as an effective unit.

if he joins liverpool (a club that should be in the top 4 minimum), he will have better players at his disposal hence he should, by right, be able to make better use of what he has.

I think you're wrong there.  United, Chelsea, and Arsenal are definitly better than us.  And i think City and Spurs are at LEAST as good but have a better chance of improving next season due to CL football for Spurs and shed loads of money for City.

Thats the strange thing about Liverpool fans.  (not you).  We seem to think we should be achieving more than we actually should.  Rafa ultimately got sacked for not winning the PL in 6 seasons even though we never had the resources to expect to win it. 

now we're hoping for top 4 when 3 teams are better than us and 2 - 3 are equally as good at present with more chances of improving.  i think 5th or 6th and a domestic cup would be the realistic target.

[In and Out]

at fulham (a club that at best should be a top 10 maximum), he brought them to the uefa cup final with limited resources and players who aren't household names. he got them to play as an effective unit.

if he joins liverpool (a club that should be in the top 4 minimum), he will have better players at his disposal hence he should, by right, be able to make better use of what he has.

I think you're wrong there.  United, Chelsea, and Arsenal are definitly better than us.  And i think City and Spurs are at LEAST as good but have a better chance of improving next season due to CL football for Spurs and shed loads of money for City.

Thats the strange thing about Liverpool fans.  (not you).  We seem to think we should be achieving more than we actually should.  Rafa ultimately got sacked for not winning the PL in 6 seasons even though we never had the resources to expect to win it. 

now we're hoping for top 4 when 3 teams are better than us and 2 - 3 are equally as good at present with more chances of improving.  i think 5th or 6th and a domestic cup would be the realistic target.

fair comment.

[Bad Bob]

who is the Pamela we've been chatting up all along? Kenny?

Pammy's a slag.  Maybe that's Mourinho!

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Just a general consensus of opinion from a cross section of Liverpool fans courtesy of the Liverpool Echo


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Jun 16 2010 by Our Correspondent, Liverpool Echo
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WITH all the talk and debate over who should replace Rafa Benitez as Liverpool manager, I just can’t believe that the board are thinking about anyone else other than Kenny Dalglish.

No-one on this list even comes close to Kenny.

Get a grip – bring Kenny back where he belongs.

scousepaul10

THERE’S only one man for the Liverpool manager’s job – Kenny Dalglish.

He’s got the support of the majority of supporters and no doubt the support of the players.

I think/believe we can do well next season with Kenny.

If he’s given the job, anyone who takes ownership will want to keep him in charge – I know I would.

He’s got the best managerial record than all those other managers who may be in the frame.

So we should go with someone with proven success, not one-off wonders.

bonnythescouser

I AM a Liverpool fan of 63 years and it’s already too late for a new manager – excluding Kenny.

Any other manager would take at least six months to find his feet; Kenny as been involved at our club for some time now and has some idea what is going on and what is required.

belben

THERE are three choices for Liverpool manager.

1) Dalglish; 2) Dalglish; 3) Dalglish.

willod72

KENNY DALGLISH has been out of management too long.

Things have moved on a huge amount since he was last at the helm of a club.

The arrival of Roman Abramovich means he won’t be in charge of the dominant team of the day as he was in the past.

He was a great player, a great manager but all he has now is a reputation to lose. He will lose all the respect he has gathered over the last few decades if he takes on the Liverpool manager’s job in the present climate at club.

He is behind the times with regards to modern methods.

Add to that an impatient and disrespectful media, short-sighted, impatient and clueless fans and this is a recipe for disaster.

As for Roy Hodgson to be our manager – don’t make me laugh!

Aside from Rafa, Guus Hiddink is the only one who could consistently over-achieve with the current finances.

Rightly, he has turned us down. Getting rid of Rafa will prove to be the biggest mistake these owners have made – and they’ve made a few howlers.

happy_red




I think it says it all that at the start of this thread posters were hoping it would be Mourinho whose name would be firmly in the frame but to say those expectations have lowered a tad would surely be a huge understatement
it seems ridiculous that the same posters advocating the name of Mourinho and other managers of  that calibre ,now expect us to accept the name of Hodgson is now the very best we can do ..... these same posters were repeatedly accusing those of us who championed the cause of retaining a world class manager   as being content with mediocrity and they believed firmly nothing else other than a challenge for the Title would do ................ so excuse me if I find this slightly hypocritical and if the truth be told just a touch sad that the very  same posters are quite willing to support the Owners choice of manager   or is that just me that finds the lowering of expectations to ludicrous levels slightly bemusing ............. anyway back to the World cup

[Ben Patrick]

To be fair to you redbeergoggles i agree with what you are saying regarding not wanting to accept a manager that you dont think is good enough.
Hodgson is not a world class manager, he is a steady eddie that has done some good jobs and also struggled at various stages. There is no doubt appointing him isnt what anyone was seriously advocating when they were talking about new managers.

I hope it is someone else to be honest, but if its not i am still hopeful that what he serves up next season is an improvement on what we witnessed last.

[Benny The Noon]

will he do better than previous 5 seasons before that or is everything now judged on last season and that is the benchmark for the previous regime ?

[Ben Patrick]

will he do better than previous 5 seasons before that or is everything now judged on last season and that is the benchmark for the previous regime ?

Well my main reason for wanting a change was the fact that i could not see Rafa getting the best out of the players this season and i expected more of the same to be honest.
So to start with if the new manager - whoever they may be improves on last season that for me is a better situation than we would have been in had we kept Rafa on.

[jacdaniel]

What do people think are realistic targets will be next season?  (assuming certain players dont leave)

I think our targets will be to challenge for top 4 and aim to win a trophy.
If Gerrard, Masch and Torres go.... i think top 7 and aim to win a trophy.

Im guessing the new manager wont have anything to spend, even if we sell our star players.

[Reg]

RBG / Benny - give up lads, the anti-rafas haven´t finished their feeding frenzy yet. They'll take the opposite side of any argument and smother it with posts.

[Benny The Noon]

will he do better than previous 5 seasons before that or is everything now judged on last season and that is the benchmark for the previous regime ?

Well my main reason for wanting a change was the fact that i could not see Rafa getting the best out of the players this season and i expected more of the same to be honest.
So to start with if the new manager - whoever they may be improves on last season that for me is a better situation than we would have been in had we kept Rafa on.

But maybe it could of gone the way the season before when we nearly won the thing - hence why everything cant just be judged on last season - whoever comes in has to do more than just better than last season - and i dont think its going to happen .

[maypaxvobiscum]

at fulham (a club that at best should be a top 10 maximum), he brought them to the uefa cup final with limited resources and players who aren't household names. he got them to play as an effective unit.

if he joins liverpool (a club that should be in the top 4 minimum), he will have better players at his disposal hence he should, by right, be able to make better use of what he has.

I think you're wrong there.  United, Chelsea, and Arsenal are definitly better than us.  And i think City and Spurs are at LEAST as good but have a better chance of improving next season due to CL football for Spurs and shed loads of money for City.

Thats the strange thing about Liverpool fans.  (not you).  We seem to think we should be achieving more than we actually should.  Rafa ultimately got sacked for not winning the PL in 6 seasons even though we never had the resources to expect to win it. 

now we're hoping for top 4 when 3 teams are better than us and 2 - 3 are equally as good at present with more chances of improving.  i think 5th or 6th and a domestic cup would be the realistic target.

agreed. guess we're gonna have to grind out results even if it means ugly football.