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[ruskiy playmaker]

The reason why we can't break teams like Stoke down is simple....... we have no-one with game intelligence. Gerrard is probably one of the finest players to ever wear the red shirt, but the one thing he lacks is game intelligence, its also the reason I said Keane isn't a creative second striker. Alonso is one of the best passers of a ball in the world , but again he suffers from lack of that same vital ingredient. Its the reason the mancs paid £32million for Berbatov and will no doubt pay the same for Tevez.

They used to call them "canny players", players that can play the clever little balls THROUGH the defence, rather than taking the easy option of passing it out wide all the time.

Unfortunately, we have lots of very skillful players, others that "work hard" and some that are fast as lightening, but we have NO-ONE who has game intelligence. We still need a creative second striker, and unless we find one we will continue to struggle in games like this one. Most of the time the brilliance of players like Torres, Gerrard etc will carry the day, but sometimes you need that little bit extra......

So very true, this is why I was so puzzled when we bought Keane instead of someone like Arshavin.  We definitely need a calm and intelligent player in our team.  So many times today our attacking players just rushed the ball into the box without thinking.

[Sabre]

S@int says

The reason why we can't break teams like Stoke down is simple....... we have no-one with game intelligence. Gerrard is probably one of the finest players to ever wear the red shirt, but the one thing he lacks is game intelligence, its also the reason I said Keane isn't a creative second striker. Alonso is one of the best passers of a ball in the world , but again he suffers from lack of that same vital ingredient. Its the reason the mancs paid £32million for Berbatov and will no doubt pay the same for Tevez.

Your first sentence is too harsh on our players IMO. Keane and Torres had in their boots chances that not only they wouldn't miss normally but actually many (not only Berbatov) other strikers of the league would have scored, glorious chances. Our strikers today didn't score, a bad day in the office, but nothing more.

[bigmick]

Another one bites the dust!!

Where do you feckers find this stuff      and how do you load it up (actually don't tell me that bit, I'll never work it out anyway). Fecking classic that Baz   

[metalhead]

S@int says

The reason why we can't break teams like Stoke down is simple....... we have no-one with game intelligence. Gerrard is probably one of the finest players to ever wear the red shirt, but the one thing he lacks is game intelligence, its also the reason I said Keane isn't a creative second striker. Alonso is one of the best passers of a ball in the world , but again he suffers from lack of that same vital ingredient. Its the reason the mancs paid £32million for Berbatov and will no doubt pay the same for Tevez.

Your first sentence is too harsh on our players IMO. Keane and Torres had in their boots chances that not only they wouldn't miss normally but actually many (not only Berbatov) other strikers of the league would have scored, glorious chances. Our strikers today didn't score, a bad day in the office, but nothing more.

Agreed there sabre.

When they hit top form, I don't think many will complain.

[slickrick]

the fact remains that we won't finish within 20 points of chelsea this season, why we bought keane i don't know, it was a creative player to play behind the front man we needed, we buy keane for 18m and chelsea buy deco for 8m i think that says enough, plus rafa's persistance to keep playin kuyt is beyond me, he contributes absolutely nothin goin forward, and as for people sayin torres is rusty, in fairness his chances were not that hard and i bet ronaldo gets MOTM tomoro and he hasn't played all year

[metalhead]

the fact remains that we won't finish within 20 points of chelsea this season, why we bought keane i don't know, it was a creative player to play behind the front man we needed, we buy keane for 18m and chelsea buy deco for 8m i think that says enough, plus rafa's persistance to keep playin kuyt is beyond me, he contributes absolutely nothin goin forward, and as for people sayin torres is rusty, in fairness his chances were not that hard and i bet ronaldo gets MOTM tomoro and he hasn't played all year

so your saying that Torres isn't the player we thought he would be?

[Bad Bob]

as for people sayin torres is rusty, in fairness his chances were not that hard and i bet ronaldo gets MOTM tomoro and he hasn't played all year

I'm not clear on your point here.  Is missing relatively easy chances not a sign of rust for a striker of his calibre?

[Number 9]

Game intelligence?
We were flogging a dead horse today with high balls into the box,anyone could have seen that!
It does'nt take a player to have the best game intelligence in the world to say"hold on every ball we put in the box high they head it out"to themselves does it?
FFS our best chances came from low hard crosses played back in from the by line,it was really the only time we had them exposed.BUT STILL we kept putting high crosses in!
Thats the frustrating thing from today,apart from the result obviously!

[Number 9]

as for people sayin torres is rusty, in fairness his chances were not that hard and i bet ronaldo gets MOTM tomoro and he hasn't played all year

I'm not clear on your point here.  Is missing relatively easy chances not a sign of rust for a striker of his calibre?

No Bob hes lost his class he's finished!

Needs another game or two and he'll be back to his best!

[account deleted by request]

S@int says

The reason why we can't break teams like Stoke down is simple....... we have no-one with game intelligence. Gerrard is probably one of the finest players to ever wear the red shirt, but the one thing he lacks is game intelligence, its also the reason I said Keane isn't a creative second striker. Alonso is one of the best passers of a ball in the world , but again he suffers from lack of that same vital ingredient. Its the reason the mancs paid £32million for Berbatov and will no doubt pay the same for Tevez.

Your first sentence is too harsh on our players IMO. Keane and Torres had in their boots chances that not only they wouldn't miss normally but actually many (not only Berbatov) other strikers of the league would have scored, glorious chances. Our strikers today didn't score, a bad day in the office, but nothing more.

You are missunderstanding me as usual Sabre. I am not talking about players scoring (although that always helps) I am talking about our players not having the game intelligence to create chances rather than hoping for a 20 yarder from Gerrard, a bit of individual brilliance from Torres or a knee from Kuyt. Most of our chances today came from hit and hope crosses or they were from outside the box.

[metalhead]

S@int says

The reason why we can't break teams like Stoke down is simple....... we have no-one with game intelligence. Gerrard is probably one of the finest players to ever wear the red shirt, but the one thing he lacks is game intelligence, its also the reason I said Keane isn't a creative second striker. Alonso is one of the best passers of a ball in the world , but again he suffers from lack of that same vital ingredient. Its the reason the mancs paid £32million for Berbatov and will no doubt pay the same for Tevez.

Your first sentence is too harsh on our players IMO. Keane and Torres had in their boots chances that not only they wouldn't miss normally but actually many (not only Berbatov) other strikers of the league would have scored, glorious chances. Our strikers today didn't score, a bad day in the office, but nothing more.

You are missunderstanding me as usual Sabre. I am not talking about players scoring (although that always helps) I am talking about our players not having the game intelligence to create chances rather than hoping for a 20 yarder from Gerrard, a bit of individual brilliance from Torres or a knee from Kuyt. Most of our chances today came from hit and hope crosses or they were from outside the box.

I know what you will say next, you will say that the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Manc have won the league with that type of player, a second creative striker, and the last time we had that type of player was back when we had Stjohn, Keegan, Dalglish, Beardsley since Beardsley we haven't had one and we haven't won the league since. 

mate, I would be excited if we do get this type of player, like augerio for example, but I still don't think that type of player is our top priority.

We need a right back, maybe a left back, center back and if kuyt keeps on playing on the right, MAYBE a right midfielder.

[Emerald Red]

So what's happened? Someone get banned?

[Kharhaz]

So what's happened? Someone get banned?

We only lost one today !



Well done barry ! 

[Emerald Red]

So what's happened? Someone get banned?

We only lost one today !



Well done barry ! 

He shall be remembered.

[JC_81]

Unfortunately was working today, and gutted when I checked the results.  0-0 with Stoke FFS!

Despite this 2 points dropped, having watched match of the day there and seeing the amount of clear cut chances we created, I feel slightly better.  25 shots and dominated possession.  Stoke were lucky, very lucky.

This isn't a Birmingham of last season, we put out probably our strongest team and battered them.  It was just not our day.  You get freak results like this.

Of course I didn't see the game though, which probably would have frustrated me even more, and watching MOTD doesn't tell the whole story I know.  Let's forget about it and move on.