Liverpool FC Forum

[Paul C]

Everyone goes from his reputation in Holland, where he was the main man at feyenoord, he just isn't what we need upfront, we need goals and Kuyt won't provide that, yeah he's got a fantastic attitude but that won't win games, it will help but won't put the ball in the net, for me the best parnership we have is Crouch and Torres who will score goal but Rafa won't play Crouch and Torres is injured.

We need to buy a striker who will score goals as so far our record proves that are struggling in that department.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

i cant be bothered to check but did any of those players cost over 10 million and get picked every week despite being pants

Diouf cost 10 million and played nearly every week Peewee, but that was when he played for us

Owen wasn't booed because he'd proven in the past he was capable of scoring and Owen was always in the chances to miss, a bit like Peter Crouch now, Kuyt on the other hand isn't even getting in positions to score.

[Red8]

Check out football365.  Someone has just compared Kuyt to a rugby player - runs a lot and shoots high into the stands - and another mentioned that watching Kuyt is like getting stapled on the feet.  I thought we were harsh but....Hope Kuyt stays away from footie websites cos he is getting blasted to pieces for his horrendous displays.

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Check out football365.  Someone has just compared Kuyt to a rugby player - runs a lot and shoots high into the stands - and another mentioned that watching Kuyt is like getting stapled on the feet.  I thought we were harsh but....Hope Kuyt stays away from footie websites cos he is getting blasted to pieces for his horrendous displays.

he does look like he is running through treacle

[god_bless_john_houlding]

It's all very well certain fans voicing their disgust at Kuyt's inclusion, but until Benitez realises his stubbourness is our downfall, Kuyt will be playing week in week out.

[Big Niall]

He tries hard but is nowhere near LFC standard, probably Villa or Birmingham. I said after the world cup that I thought he was poor and think Rafa wasted another 10 million here.

at least crouch scored some goals but Rafa then dropped him and doesn't allow him get any rythm or understading with his ever changing strike partner.

Rafa has no idea who to play up front, Kuyt and crouch are the obvious two and with Torres out injured if they played every game together they might get an understanding but after three years Rafa decided that Kuyt and SG is the best attack we have - can't believe it, what has he being building for if he now thinks SG is a better striker than Crouch,Voninin, Has SG changed from being centre midfield to right midfield , to center midfield to just off front man. expect that Rafa will realise that SG is the perfect answer to our centre back problems next week.

I think Rafa has lost it.

[Ciggy]

I dont know why people are blaming Kuyt but its the managers fault he isnt scoring regulaly he spends most games in the midfield to start with plus defending, hardly ever in and around the box.

The same with Morientes never given the chance to show what they can do whilst playing out of position.

If Kuyt leaves whom ever is brought in will be told to play the same way as Kuyt and it will result in that said player not scoring enough again.

Through no fault of his own.

The lad was upfront on his own on saturday with no service until Crouch came on and he is out of form due to not playing as a forward he is rusty but its not his fault.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

I dont know why people are blaming Kuyt but its the managers fault he isnt scoring regulaly he spends most games in the midfield to start with plus defending, hardly ever in and around the box.

The same with Morientes never given the chance to show what they can do whilst playing out of position.

If Kuyt leaves whom ever is brought in will be told to play the same way as Kuyt and it will result in that said player not scoring enough again.

Through no fault of his own.

The lad was upfront on his own on saturday with no service until Crouch came on and he is out of form due to not playing as a forward he is rusty but its not his fault.

Kuyt played up front with a strike partner against Beskitas and I didn't see him touch the ball.

Kuyt has played more than enough times up front with another forward and isn't delivering the goods. I personally don't think Benitez is doing any of the players any good at this moment in time, but as for Kuyt he wouldn't be up to it under any manager.

[stmichael]

I think some of the criticism of Kuyt has gone overboard at times and depending on who you speak to, you couldn't be blamed for thinking that he's the worst player to ever pull on a red shirt.

I like Dirk, I really do. It's hard not due to the work rate he puts in and you can see he really loves the club, but in my heart of hearts, I don't think he's good enough for us as a regular top level goal scorer.

For me, he looks a far better player when paired with either Crouch or Torres. This allows him, in effect, to do the donkey work for his partner, with a lot less emphasis placed on him to hold the ball up and bring others into play. When he's played with a partner, it also allows him to move off the ball much better, to get into more threatening positions and create space in the opposition's back line.

He'll never be an effective lone striker like Peter Crouch can be and you won't see the best of Dirk unless he's paired with another player. As I said, I ultimately don't think he's good enough in the long term, but at the moment, it's about playing to the strengths of the players in the formation you're going to select and if you're going to pick Kuyt, you have to play him alongside either Crouch or Torres.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Well if Kuyt works best with a partner, then why has Benitez (the great tactition) played him as a lone forward on certain occasions.

[puroresu]

Well if Kuyt works best with a partner, then why has Benitez (the great tactition) played him as a lone forward on certain occasions.

Because rafa seems to think the ability to run all day long is more important than the ability to control a football and then use the ball in a productive way.

[Leonmc0708]

Well if Kuyt works best with a partner, then why has Benitez (the great tactition) played him as a lone forward on certain occasions.

Are you having a fuc.king laugh or what ?

[Big Niall]

I don't think Rafa trusts the players to use the ball. How often did grobellaar roll the ball to hansen and leave him bring the ball out - midfielders would then show for the ball from him.

Now the keeper always kicks it long , defenders don't take the ball and look for the short crisp pass, midfielders don't show for that pass - everyone is afraid of losing the ball in their own half so they just boot it long every time so that when they do lose it that is close to the other goal.

[Leonmc0708]

I don't think Rafa trusts the players to use the ball. How often did grobellaar roll the ball to hansen and leave him bring the ball out - midfielders would then show for the ball from him.

Now the keeper always kicks it long , defenders don't take the ball and look for the short crisp pass, midfielders don't show for that pass - everyone is afraid of losing the ball in their own half so they just boot it long every time so that when they do lose it that is close to the other goal.

Reina always kicks it long ?

On MOTD maybe.

[dawson99]

reina is one of the best keepers at distribution and quickest. where we go wrong is the defenders hoofing, but as weve said before agger will sort that out.