red, you're really aiming to be amod or something right... but why are we saying:
"concede any ground in the debate ,I think this is where the fundamental flaws appear in any possible concord" & "I suggest we use this thread to instil a consistent flow of less abusive posts"
Just say "Can everyone stop being a cok and we'll get along better."
We don't need all this condescending jibberjabber.
(and it's you're awesome)