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tonyeh wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

tonyeh wrote:If Benitez stays here next year, the best we can hope for is more tedious, boring, conservative, obvious football.

Not to mention more bollocks talk from sycophants who simply refuse to see the wood for the trees.

Why are people not allowed to have an opinion that differs from yours and allowed to show a bit of belief when others have given up without being subjected to abuse or insults ? Last night people managed to have a good sensible debate without any insults being thrown around and they were able to post sensibly and subjectively without slagging off posters,managers or players ?

Im guessing thats a bit too intelligent for you to do .

People are allowed opinions, of course.

But some peoples opinions are based on bollocks...or "belief" as they like to call it. That's fine, but it's still remains bollocks.

Benitez had his shot. He's failed. It's time for him to go, before he can do more damage.

The football Liverpool plays under Beintez is simply awful.

And thats your opinion but that doesnt mean someone else's opinion is b.*ll*c*ks or based on b.*ll*c*ks . You are no more wrong or right than them . Its all just a personal opinion . So at least respect peoples opinions and belief's - as some of those belief's are what made this club so great

I don't respect opinion that's based on nothing.

And constant sycophantic bleating, used as simple gainsaying can become as tedious as the football Liverpool play at the moment.

"Faith" and "belief" are meaningless.

You can have "faith" that Benitez can walk on water. But I know damn well that he can't.

Fowler_E7 wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:My question was

And why would you think that a manager that has FAILED to win the prem for 6 years is suddenly going to turn things around ?

Because up until this season i saw an improvement each season with us getting better and better and getting closer to challenge and think IMO this season is a blip that we can recover from

Nah mate we played better football in 2005/6 than we did in  either 2006/7 or 2007/8, while in 2008/9 we played good football for 3 months , and then this season has been poor beyond belief. So a 4 and 3/4 year blip 

but as been stated its all about results saint - we may of played better football but the end result is all that matters .

Im curious what do you think of the football that we have played this season, and what makes you believe we will suddenly become better again? im guessing you must see something on the pitch that gives you that impression

7_Kewell wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:seen it mate but still not a picture of a man cracking up - and i certainly dont think it was attributed to our form - rafa told some home truths

Really? Didn't we fail to win for 4-5 matches after this rant?  We were top and he made a complete fool of himself with his FACTS and his stupid list. He put pressure on the team for no reason and our title challange was over.

It was the pressure getting to him and Whiskey nose must have laughed his c0ck off when he saw it.

yet we still had chance to win the title all the way into april ? then again lets also look at the players as well who could of easily tightened up being in a leading position for the first time in nearly 20 years . Lets forget the players on the pitch loosing for and just look to lump the blame all on the manager .

In my view it was unnecessary. Why put the players under pressure when they are winning games and the team is 6 points clear at the top of the table?

For me it showed that, when it came to mind games, Rafa was beaten before the games had even begun.

Benny The Noon wrote:

Fowler_E7 wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:My question was

And why would you think that a manager that has FAILED to win the prem for 6 years is suddenly going to turn things around ?

Because up until this season i saw an improvement each season with us getting better and better and getting closer to challenge and think IMO this season is a blip that we can recover from

Nah mate we played better football in 2005/6 than we did in  either 2006/7 or 2007/8, while in 2008/9 we played good football for 3 months , and then this season has been poor beyond belief. So a 4 and 3/4 year blip 

but as been stated its all about results saint - we may of played better football but the end result is all that matters .

Im curious what do you think of the football that we have played this season, and what makes you believe we will suddenly become better again? im guessing you must see something on the pitch that gives you that impression

Have already said before i dont believe we have played well enough as a team this season and too many players have been way below par - but i know those players can play a lot better resulting in better results .

Benny The Noon wrote:I thought it was GH who came up with the 5 year plan scenario ?!

Fowler_E7 wrote:Even if it is all down to the players this season, hows Rafa going to make them play better next year? if they cant follow his instructions now why will they be able to do it next year?

Sir Roger wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:I thought it was GH who came up with the 5 year plan scenario ?!

GH, Rafa...whats the difference?

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:My question was

And why would you think that a manager that has FAILED to win the prem for 6 years is suddenly going to turn things around ?

Because up until this season i saw an improvement each season with us getting better and better and getting closer to challenge and think IMO this season is a blip that we can recover from

Nah mate we played better football in 2005/6 than we did in  either 2006/7 or 2007/8, while in 2008/9 we played good football for 3 months , and then this season has been poor beyond belief. So a 4 and 3/4 year blip 

but as been stated its all about results saint - we may of played better football but the end result is all that matters .

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:My question was

And why would you think that a manager that has FAILED to win the prem for 6 years is suddenly going to turn things around ?

Because up until this season i saw an improvement each season with us getting better and better and getting closer to challenge and think IMO this season is a blip that we can recover from

Nah mate we played better football in 2005/6 than we did in  either 2006/7 or 2007/8, while in 2008/9 we played good football for 3 months , and then this season has been poor beyond belief. So a 4 and 3/4 year blip 

but as been stated its all about results saint - we may of played better football but the end result is all that matters .

We finished with 82 points in 2005/6
we finished with 68 points in 2006/7
we finished with 76 points in 2007/8

Its all about results and the table backs ME up.

Benny The Noon wrote:

Fowler_E7 wrote:Even if it is all down to the players this season, hows Rafa going to make them play better next year? if they cant follow his instructions now why will they be able to do it next year?

Not saying its all down to the players - the manager takes responsibility as well - i have seen them get close to winning it when they are on form and playing well and i believe they can play well again and challenge again .

Sir Roger wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

Fowler_E7 wrote:Even if it is all down to the players this season, hows Rafa going to make them play better next year? if they cant follow his instructions now why will they be able to do it next year?

Not saying its all down to the players - the manager takes responsibility as well - i have seen them get close to winning it when they are on form and playing well and i believe they can play well again and challenge again .

Are you mad?
How can Rafa be responsible?
He pick the team he believes will win the game
If the players dont win how is it his fault?

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:My question was

And why would you think that a manager that has FAILED to win the prem for 6 years is suddenly going to turn things around ?

Because up until this season i saw an improvement each season with us getting better and better and getting closer to challenge and think IMO this season is a blip that we can recover from

Nah mate we played better football in 2005/6 than we did in  either 2006/7 or 2007/8, while in 2008/9 we played good football for 3 months , and then this season has been poor beyond belief. So a 4 and 3/4 year blip 

but as been stated its all about results saint - we may of played better football but the end result is all that matters .

We finished with 82 points in 2005/6
we finished with 68 points in 2006/7
we finished with 76 points in 2007/8

Its all about results and the table backs ME up.

and 08/09 saint ?

ironman wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Facts are Facts ? You havent stated any facts - you have stated an opinion - a very difference between the two

unreal, its true, you dont answer anything!! like our manager! gutless!!!

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

s@int wrote:My question was

And why would you think that a manager that has FAILED to win the prem for 6 years is suddenly going to turn things around ?

Because up until this season i saw an improvement each season with us getting better and better and getting closer to challenge and think IMO this season is a blip that we can recover from

Nah mate we played better football in 2005/6 than we did in  either 2006/7 or 2007/8, while in 2008/9 we played good football for 3 months , and then this season has been poor beyond belief. So a 4 and 3/4 year blip 

but as been stated its all about results saint - we may of played better football but the end result is all that matters .

We finished with 82 points in 2005/6
we finished with 68 points in 2006/7
we finished with 76 points in 2007/8

Its all about results and the table backs ME up.

and 08/09 saint ?

You can't deny we made progress last season. You can't be 'lucky' over a whole season so all that talk is nonsense.