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by **Dundalk** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:31 am

Ian Dowie

by **bigmick** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:37 am

bavlondon wrote:
s@int wrote:FIVE MANAGERS WHO COULD REPLACE BENITEZ AT LIVERPOOL
Betfair, 4 Nov 2009

While there is plenty of talk about Benitez being on the brink, is there anyone currently unemployed who could come in and do a better job? We looked at five of the leading candidates...

Kenny Dalglish
Notable former clubs: Liverpool, Blackburn, Newcastle, Celtic
Major honours: First Division/Premier League (1985-86, 1987-88, 1989-90, 1994-95), FA Cup (1986, 1989)
What's he done? King Kenny is one of Liverpool's all-time greatest heroes, having guided the club to six titles as a player and three as a manager - including their most recent in 1990. He also led Blackburn to glory in 1995 before having less successful spells at Newcastle and Celtic. He already works behind the scenes for Liverpool and would be a popular choice, even on a temporary basis.

Roberto Mancini
Notable former clubs: Fiorentina, Lazio, Inter Milan
Major honours: Serie A ("2005-06", 2006-07, 2007-08), Coppa Italia (2001, 2004, 2005, 2006)
What's he done? He's never failed. Having weathered financial storms at Fiorentina and Lazio to guide them to silverware, he ended Inter's 17-year title drought. Despite achieving all that in just over seven years as a coach, the Italian has never really received the credit he deserves because of a failure to lead Inter to glory in Europe - a task Jose Mourinho is finding just as challenging.

Jurgen Klinsmann
Notable former clubs: Germany, Bayern Munich
Major honours: None
What's he done? Having revived Germany after a disastrous Euro 2004 by taking them to third in the World Cup, he took charge of Bayern Munich in 2008 - having previously been approached by Liverpool - but was sacked in April with the side just three points off top. Successor Louis van Gaal has two points fewer than Klinsmann picked up in the first 11 games of last season.

Luciano Spalletti
Notable former clubs: Udinese, Roma
Major honours: Coppa Italia (2007, 2008)
What's he done? Under Spalletti, Udinese qualified for the Champions League for the first time in their history in 2005. He left for Roma, who had finished eighth, that summer and led them back into the competition. They reached the quarter-finals in 2007 and 2008, the latter thanks to a memorable double over Real Madrid in the first knockout stage, a feat Benitez replicated last season.

Marco van Basten
Notable former clubs: Holland, Ajax
Major honours: None
What's he done? A controversial four-year spell in charge of Holland in which he marginalised several big-name players ended at Euro 2008, where Holland played some of the best football but fell to Russia in the quarter-finals. He moved on to Ajax but lasted just one season, resigning after they finished third - only the second time in eight years that failed to make the top two.

Aside from Kenny, none of those are good enough. And even then he has been out of the game for a long time so id have my doubts.

So these are the managers we are being linked with and yet people here still ask for Rafas head?

This is precisely why these threads "who would you replace him with" are pointless. Mancini's record is exceptional, but he is dismissed with a :laugh:

. The fella Spalletti who I must confess I've never heard of has a good record too.

People ask the question and then won't take it seriously should anyone answer.

by **Emerald Red** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:38 am

Dundalk wrote:Ian Dowie

"Huh?"

by **rocky29** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:26 am

capello or trapattoni. tough task masters who demand respect. something we desparately need right now?

by **boodiddy1** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:17 am

MON or jose. hiddink if we coldn't get one of those two.

Maybe Kenny for a season! See where we pan out. Wouldn't cost nothing to hire. He'd also not demand daft money off us

by **Penguins** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:21 am

Don't care about names, just a manager that to some degree proven to make alot with little resources and don't have a hard work/defense before all mindset.

And not someone who will only come if he gets a sheedload of money or someone who isn't really and i mean really up for the task.

No use mentioning names of managers that won't come like Mourinho or O Neill who I see as having no reson for leaving the current jobs which are right now a better prospect.

Hodgson or Allerdyce are the most realistic ones as Capello, Hiddink etc just doesn't seem realistic at all.

But the again our owners wants marketing skills.... :no

by **Owzat** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:32 am

bavlondon wrote:He has done better in his first 200 games than either Fergie or Wenger did. That is proof enough.

proof smoof, fergie started in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ERA and Arsene's start was 14 years ago, and despite that comparison with Wenger he took how many seasons to win the league...............................? :rolleyes:

You can't compare two different eras with win stats, it simply doesn't work. :no

You want to compare 200 games, try the LAST 200 games, then you might be on to something. 111 wins for Rafa

by **teamleader1** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:43 am

Kenny should be in charge now to at least see the season out.

Anyone who cant see that Rafa and his senior staff are totally incompetent needs their eyes testing.
Rafa got us to this point and needs to go now.

Scary thing is that on planet Rafa he convinces himself that hes doing a 'FANTASTIC' job!

by **Penguins** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:04 am

Please, the ship has sailed with Kenny as manager.
He has been out of it for too long and alot has happened in 20 years and taking over at the helm in these turbulent times would just increase the chance of tarnishing his name.
I don't want that.

by **teamleader1** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:15 am

Penguins wrote:Please, the ship has sailed with Kenny as manager.
He has been out of it for too long and alot has happened in 20 years and taking over at the helm in these turbulent times would just increase the chance of tarnishing his name.
I don't want that.

How exactly would he tarnish his rep, he is more than capable of holding the fort until the summer.
What have we got to lose?
Rafa has totally lost the plot and hasn't got the know how to turn this self made mess around.
As I said before, he is incompetent and should not be allowed to drag the club down for another game never mind to the end of the season! :angry:

by **Owzat** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:32 am

I really can't see the yanks employing Kenny as manager, ffs it took long enough just to get him back on staff ("academy ambassador")

by **boodiddy1** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:00 am

Penguins wrote:Don't care about names, just a manager that to some degree proven to make alot with little resources and don't have a hard work/defense before all mindset.

And not someone who will only come if he gets a sheedload of money or someone who isn't really and i mean really up for the task.

No use mentioning names of managers that won't come like Mourinho or O Neill who I see as having no reson for leaving the current jobs which are right now a better prospect.

Hodgson or Allerdyce are the most realistic ones as Capello, Hiddink etc just doesn't seem realistic at all.

But the again our owners wants marketing skills....

You dont care for names?

Well im sorry, but thats shiite. There are some amatuer managers that have the traits you want. Lets take one of them shall we?

Dont even go there with Allardyce! Jesus, some people. Why do you think its unattainable for Liverpool Football Club to be able to entice MON or Mourinho. The team might not be hitting heights, but the club has major pull still.

You really need to set your sights higher mate. An opportunity to get one of the biggest clubs in the world, back to its rightful perch. Don't tell me Inter and Villa are bigger clubs than us. There is no way.

Kenny's ship sailed? Maybe had a few years ago, but he now has a bloody good insight into whats happening day-to-day at this great club.

Lets get rid of the idiot and see what materialises.

by **Reg** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:20 am

Capello, Hindink, Maureen. Anyone else is lightweight.

by **Owzat** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:31 am

Arsene, the only magician in the known footballing world to win the Premiership without being a heavyweight in the spending and producing a flow of talented youngsters that can be sold for a tidy profit if they don't make it. He's won more league titles against the odds than Chelsea have bought thus far, even managed a minor miracle of going unbeaten, and with the same kind of finances Rafa has COULD win the league with us. If he came here and brought Fabregas with him I doubt many would complain, or half a dozen of the rest/kids.

I'll quickly mention Allardyce and Hodgson, you're having a giraffe if you think they could do more than Souness ever did here. (or Evans, Houllier or Rafa himself) I'm even sincerely sceptical about the leprechaun, his obsession with buying English and sometimes their football is awful to watch/endure.

But back on the topic of serious contenders, there is no reason we couldn't get a top manager bar those employed by clubs as big or riding higher than our's is at the moment ie fergie and managers at big clubs. But why shop at the bargain basement? I can't see Cappello coming here while in charge of England, if he has what it takes to win the Premiership which even given his DECENT results with England (let's not get carried away with a relatively easy group, he's still yet to convince away from home bar Croatia but that's a different debate) and Hiddink seems to be over-hyped for whatever reason. Would Josie come here? Would Josie cope with the same budget as Rafa or would he simply blame everything but himself like Rafa does? At least with Wenger we could expect a team playing good football, near the top and performing to its capabilities which is exactly what Rafa does not deliver - sometimes maybe one of the three, but not all three at the same time. Wenger has worked miracles, not the easiest bloke to like, but anyone not recognising what he's done at Arsenal should probably go follow baseball or tiddlywinks

by **Penguins** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:44 pm

boodiddy1 wrote:
Penguins wrote:Don't care about names, just a manager that to some degree proven to make alot with little resources and don't have a hard work/defense before all mindset.

And not someone who will only come if he gets a sheedload of money or someone who isn't really and i mean really up for the task.

No use mentioning names of managers that won't come like Mourinho or O Neill who I see as having no reson for leaving the current jobs which are right now a better prospect.

Hodgson or Allerdyce are the most realistic ones as Capello, Hiddink etc just doesn't seem realistic at all.

But the again our owners wants marketing skills....

You dont care for names?

Well im sorry, but thats shiite. There are some amatuer managers that have the traits you want. Lets take one of them shall we?

Dont even go there with Allardyce! Jesus, some people. Why do you think its unattainable for Liverpool Football Club to be able to entice MON or Mourinho. The team might not be hitting heights, but the club has major pull still.

You really need to set your sights higher mate. An opportunity to get one of the biggest clubs in the world, back to its rightful perch. Don't tell me Inter and Villa are bigger clubs than us. There is no way.

Kenny's ship sailed? Maybe had a few years ago, but he now has a bloody good insight into whats happening day-to-day at this great club.

Lets get rid of the idiot and see what materialises.

Cause names does not guarentee success but the do guarantee a big fat wage!
And most big names would be either too expensive or are in a better job right now.

Why would Mourinho leave Inter for us???
You can't live in the past but in the present!

Inter are top of the league, in the CL latter stages and will get guaranteed CL football next season.

We are in a **** state, no money, no CL football. It actually matters as to which managers who might be interested.

And Villa are a much more stable club, who have a plan and have invested heavily the past few seasons and in a much better position both on and off the field. O Neill might not think LFC is a better proposition just cause we won something 20 years ago!

And last but not least, it is the owners who decide who we'll have as manager. Think about that...

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