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by **dawson99** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:34 pm

I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

by **aCe'** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:36 pm

There are so many many wingers in this world who are so much better than Kuyt in pretty much every footballing attribute that its rather sad that a club like liverpool consider Kuyt to be their best option down the riht wing... that list a page or two back... every single player in that list bar Delap is a better winger than Kuyt is.. some arent good enough to play for Liverpool but imo neither is Kuyt..

Talking about last game... he didnt do sht all game... he probably completed 4 OR 5 passes which is never good enough, misplaced around the same number of passes .. his completed passes, none of which led to any sort of dangerous move for the team.. one square pass to carragher who was 2 yards away was his best paass in the game... one shot he took... hit the first man and bounced back... didnt offer anything in terms of build up play... get the ball and either looks to pass it right away or retreats with the ball towards our own goal like a haunted man trying to pick out our fullback... again.. poor by all standards

i cant understand how people can slag riera with all he offers the side... last game the first half.. it was our left side that was doing all the work... Kuyt hardly got a touch all half and it was mostly riera, alonso and aurelio controlling our play... atleast he was going at hibbert every now and then and bringing aurelio into play .. seen a few crosses from the left and whenever torres or gerrard came to that side to link up play we always looked dangerous.. besides didnt he find gerrard for our only goal ?! wasnt a great pass or anything but thats just for the stats ppl banging on about kuyts contribution to the team....

ill say it again... besides the VERY few goals he scores, his contribution to our attacking play is poor to say the least... in terms of creating chances and putting in quality balls (which lets face it, is what wingers are there for), he offers absolutely NOTHING.

by **GYBS** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:36 pm

in pure ability wise kuyt is nowhere near ronaldo as a player - attitude wise well kuyt wins hands down - agree with dawson that he would be a disruptive influence in the team . would take ronaldo the player in a flash - ronaldo the man can fuc k off - no respect for the team or any loyalty whatsoever

by **alanricouk** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:37 pm

GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:A pass back to the center or defence does not constitute good work from Kuijt in my eyes. He was poor, very poor.

well thats exactly what reira spent most of the game doing as well .

I know, cos it was a sh!t 4-4-2. In the 4-2-3-1 he doesn't do it, whereas Kuijt does it still.

really ? how the hell did he manage to score so many important goals in the cl last year playing there last season and this season in the prem - as well as being involved and setting up important goals namely babels against the mancs ?

He hasn't done that in like 3 months. That was even against average teams.

He certainly doesn't beat players anyway. I don't see what he adds to the team at all.

by **alanricouk** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:38 pm

dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

by **dawson99** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:39 pm

alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

And you ARE a liverpool fan right?

wind-up merchant

by **GYBS** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:40 pm

alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:A pass back to the center or defence does not constitute good work from Kuijt in my eyes. He was poor, very poor.

well thats exactly what reira spent most of the game doing as well .

I know, cos it was a sh!t 4-4-2. In the 4-2-3-1 he doesn't do it, whereas Kuijt does it still.

really ? how the hell did he manage to score so many important goals in the cl last year playing there last season and this season in the prem - as well as being involved and setting up important goals namely babels against the mancs ?

He hasn't done that in like 3 months. That was even against average teams.

He certainly doesn't beat players anyway. I don't see what he adds to the team at all.

a right sided player doesnt always have to beat the man - remember two quality crosses to torres last year that he played in the torres scored from and that was without beating the man - look at pennant - beat his man a lot but then delivered shi te into the box . are the mancs and average side ? against chelsea he also set up two glaring opportunities . even against newcastle he laid plenty f chances on the plate for gerrard and others . yes he was shocking against stoke - everyone was that day but against everton he was nowhere near as bad as made out to be .

by **GYBS** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:41 pm

alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

Your joking me right ? the guy has the biggest ego in football and is pretty much trying to engineer himself a move to madrid and has been doing for the last year .

by **alanricouk** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:41 pm

dawson99 wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

And you ARE a liverpool fan right?

wind-up merchant

Ha ha. Ok, Gerrard doesn't have an ego.

by **alanricouk** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:43 pm

GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

Your joking me right ? the guy has the biggest ego in football and is pretty much trying to engineer himself a move to madrid and has been doing for the last year .

He's always said he's wanted to move to Real Madrid after United. That's no secret.

To be fair, he has a right to have an ego, as he is the best footballer in the world.

by **GYBS** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:43 pm

alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

And you ARE a liverpool fan right?

wind-up merchant

Ha ha. Ok, Gerrard doesn't have an ego.

have you ever met him ? he has believe in his own abilities - that is not having a massive ego - read his book - watch his dvd and you will see the guy is very humble but proud of being at liverpool and his upbringing and his dad would knock any ego he had out of him . you cant compare their personalities one single bit - do yu hear gerrard claiming he is the best player on the planet and the best player to have ever pkayed for the club or country - well thats the sort of bullshi t ronaldo come sout with .

by **GYBS** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:44 pm

alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

Your joking me right ? the guy has the biggest ego in football and is pretty much trying to engineer himself a move to madrid and has been doing for the last year .

He's always said he's wanted to move to Real Madrid after United. That's no secret.

To be fair, he has a right to have an ego, as he is the best footballer in the world.

No he isnt - both messi and kaka are better and would even suggest torres is better - he was on a hot streak last year . but now he just struts around the place - he had an indian season last year and you never ever see him do it again .

by **Number 9** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:45 pm

alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

Manc scum alert! :nod

by **alanricouk** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:48 pm

GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

Your joking me right ? the guy has the biggest ego in football and is pretty much trying to engineer himself a move to madrid and has been doing for the last year .

He's always said he's wanted to move to Real Madrid after United. That's no secret.

To be fair, he has a right to have an ego, as he is the best footballer in the world.

No he isnt - both messi and kaka are better and would even suggest torres is better - he was on a hot streak last year . but now he just struts around the place - he had an indian season last year and you never ever see him do it again .

Ok. Must have won countless awards by mistake then. Anyway, this isn't about Ronaldo. All of you dismissing him is funny though.

Gerrard - belief in his ability
Ronaldo- arrogant in his ability

fukking hell, thats some sh!t a manc would come up with.

by **Madmax** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:51 pm

GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I said I'd rather have him then Ronaldo yes. I prefer him as a person, and that's just as important. Ronaldo would rip the team apart.

How would he? He certainly doesn't do that at United. He ego is on par with Gerrard anyway.

Your joking me right ? the guy has the biggest ego in football and is pretty much trying to engineer himself a move to madrid and has been doing for the last year .

He's always said he's wanted to move to Real Madrid after United. That's no secret.

To be fair, he has a right to have an ego, as he is the best footballer in the world.

No he isnt - both messi and kaka are better and would even suggest torres is better - he was on a hot streak last year . but now he just struts around the place - he had an indian season last year and you never ever see him do it again .

The way he played last year i had a feeling he wont be the same this time round, especially with the real saga. If mannure do win the title without a top form ronoldo then i will be :censored:

. With mannure i guess it more of team unity and the system fergie constructs for them rather than singular players taking the shine off the team. As for this season ronaldo is nowhere to be seen.

I said to one of my mate if it wasnt for ronaldo you would not have been great last season. If they do win this season without ronoldo on sparkling form my mate will take the mick! feckin w@nker!

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