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Postby alanricouk » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:05 pm

GYBS wrote:
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GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:Players better than, or more effective from each team in the premier league on the right

Walcott- Even though I don't really rate him
J.Cole- Even though I don't rate him because of his final ball
Arteta
Geovanni
Wright P
Ronaldo
Jonas
Delap- Even though hes :censored:, hes effective at what he does, just like Kuijt apparently
Malbranque
Aaron Lennon
Valencia.

All these players, bar Delap, I would have instead of Dirk.

Walcott- Even though I don't really rate him -too pricey
J.Cole- Even though I don't rate him because of his final ball - chelsea would never sell him to us
Arteta- should be playing in the centre and narrows the play
Geovanni- a coupl eof long range goals is about all he has done
Wright P - would of done well for us but never had the chance to get him for a reasonable price
Ronaldo- no point even bringing him up as never going to get him
Jonas - what has he done this seaon ?! feck all
Delap- Even though hes :censored:, hes effective at what he does, just like Kuijt apparently - delap ???? just has a long throw in ??
Malbranque- no thanks - not good enough and is lazy to boot
Aaron Lennon - end product very poor - pennant clone
Valencia. - agree is a good player and the only realistic target out of the lot

I'm not saying to buy them, but they are better players than Kuijt this season who play on the right. Plus, Lennon is much better this year with his final ball. Thats just a myth from last season.

yes some maybe better than kuyt but they arent liverpool players - so whats the point of them in regards our team ? none . when kuyt was playing out right early in the season he was one of the form players in the team and in the prem - he got moved up front when torres was injured and has lots that form - put him back right and let him get that form back again . for all the slagging off kuyt is getting then reira should get just as much as he is proving lately to be ineffective out there and isnt as good as people have suggested .

Riera even at his worst is better than kuyt, seeing as he can do things like pass, control the ball and link up play, none of which Kuyt can do.

well kuyt did all that on sunday but unfortunatley people with tunnel vision towards a pleyer never see that sort of stuff do they

He was shocking on Monday. Everything he done was :censored:. The only thing he done right was hold up the ball sometimes, but in the end he released a sh!t pass, or he waited too long, and Everton had time to organise the defence.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:07 pm

well i saw him complete many passes to either xabi or torres or gerrard or carra and won the ball a number of times both on the ground and in the air .
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Postby Fowler_E7 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:08 pm

GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:
GYBS wrote:
alanricouk wrote:Players better than, or more effective from each team in the premier league on the right

Walcott- Even though I don't really rate him
J.Cole- Even though I don't rate him because of his final ball
Arteta
Geovanni
Wright P
Ronaldo
Jonas
Delap- Even though hes :censored:, hes effective at what he does, just like Kuijt apparently
Malbranque
Aaron Lennon
Valencia.

All these players, bar Delap, I would have instead of Dirk.

Walcott- Even though I don't really rate him -too pricey
J.Cole- Even though I don't rate him because of his final ball - chelsea would never sell him to us
Arteta- should be playing in the centre and narrows the play
Geovanni- a coupl eof long range goals is about all he has done
Wright P - would of done well for us but never had the chance to get him for a reasonable price
Ronaldo- no point even bringing him up as never going to get him
Jonas - what has he done this seaon ?! feck all
Delap- Even though hes :censored:, hes effective at what he does, just like Kuijt apparently - delap ???? just has a long throw in ??
Malbranque- no thanks - not good enough and is lazy to boot
Aaron Lennon - end product very poor - pennant clone
Valencia. - agree is a good player and the only realistic target out of the lot

I'm not saying to buy them, but they are better players than Kuijt this season who play on the right. Plus, Lennon is much better this year with his final ball. Thats just a myth from last season.

yes some maybe better than kuyt but they arent liverpool players - so whats the point of them in regards our team ? none . when kuyt was playing out right early in the season he was one of the form players in the team and in the prem - he got moved up front when torres was injured and has lots that form - put him back right and let him get that form back again . for all the slagging off kuyt is getting then reira should get just as much as he is proving lately to be ineffective out there and isnt as good as people have suggested .

Riera tends to make more space for himself, and his passing is more effective. Ok, he isn't getting the assists, but he troubles the full backs at least.

when did he last do all that ? on monday he spent most of the time passing back into the middle or getting tackled - he wasnt threatening all match long bar one shot - pretty much just like kuyt .

what are you talkin about? he went close with a shot, whiped a few decent balls in and tried to get forward all game. He wasnt very good but at least he contributed, Kuyt dosnt keep the width, cant pass and generally breaks down every move that he gets involved with, the amount of times he loses possesion is terrible
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:10 pm

Kuyt also had a shot on goal as well mate when he controlled a ball first time and got shot of quickly in a short space but was blocked . reira spent most of the time trying to cut inside and ended up being in hibberts pocket most of the match and created no chances - nothing . and it just shows total anti kuyt rubbish if you think reira contributed but kuyt didnt when they were pretty much the same all game long .
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Postby Fowler_E7 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:17 pm

GYBS wrote:Kuyt also had a shot on goal as well mate when he controlled a ball first time and got shot of quickly in a short space but was blocked . reira spent most of the time trying to cut inside and ended up being in hibberts pocket most of the match and created no chances - nothing . and it just shows total anti kuyt rubbish if you think reira contributed but kuyt didnt when they were pretty much the same all game long .

you must be a blind man or something, even when Riera's playing badly he gets involved and at least keeps the balance and shape right. Kuyt does nothing! off the ball he closes a few balls down, but offensively? almost nothing, he dosnt have the physical attributes or skill to go past the man, he has barely any passing abilty so can only do the simple ball, and couldnt trap a bag of cement, giving the opposition plent of time to close him down. He gets himself into decent scoring positions some times, but thats not enough playing right wing. Poor player and should be dropped ASAP
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:19 pm

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GYBS wrote:Kuyt also had a shot on goal as well mate when he controlled a ball first time and got shot of quickly in a short space but was blocked . reira spent most of the time trying to cut inside and ended up being in hibberts pocket most of the match and created no chances - nothing . and it just shows total anti kuyt rubbish if you think reira contributed but kuyt didnt when they were pretty much the same all game long .

you must be a blind man or something, even when Riera's playing badly he gets involved and at least keeps the balance and shape right. Kuyt does nothing! off the ball he closes a few balls down, but offensively? almost nothing, he dosnt have the physical attributes or skill to go past the man, he has barely any passing abilty so can only do the simple ball, and couldnt trap a bag of cement, giving the opposition plent of time to close him down. He gets himself into decent scoring positions some times, but thats not enough playing right wing. Poor player and should be dropped ASAP

how the hell did he manage to be our second top scorer this season and be involved in a number of our goals this season if thats the case then ?
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Postby alanricouk » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:26 pm

A pass back to the center or defence does not constitute good work from Kuijt in my eyes. He was poor, very poor.
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Postby Madmax » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:28 pm

The list that someone made about right sided players. Would take Shaun right philips any day. Until we get a great right attacker we have to get used to kuyt playing there. I just hope in the summer they sort something out. If rafa keeps kuty there and doesnt bother on getting a player more capable and ruthless in that pos then i will be very annoyed.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:29 pm

alanricouk wrote:A pass back to the center or defence does not constitute good work from Kuijt in my eyes. He was poor, very poor.

well thats exactly what reira spent most of the game doing as well .
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Postby Fowler_E7 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:30 pm

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GYBS wrote:Kuyt also had a shot on goal as well mate when he controlled a ball first time and got shot of quickly in a short space but was blocked . reira spent most of the time trying to cut inside and ended up being in hibberts pocket most of the match and created no chances - nothing . and it just shows total anti kuyt rubbish if you think reira contributed but kuyt didnt when they were pretty much the same all game long .

you must be a blind man or something, even when Riera's playing badly he gets involved and at least keeps the balance and shape right. Kuyt does nothing! off the ball he closes a few balls down, but offensively? almost nothing, he dosnt have the physical attributes or skill to go past the man, he has barely any passing abilty so can only do the simple ball, and couldnt trap a bag of cement, giving the opposition plent of time to close him down. He gets himself into decent scoring positions some times, but thats not enough playing right wing. Poor player and should be dropped ASAP

how the hell did he manage to be our second top scorer this season and be involved in a number of our goals this season if thats the case then ?

like i said he gets himself into scoring positons, and he will get a goal now and then, which apart from workrate is the one thing he can do, however the goals dried up ages ago and his purple patch is finished. If he is as good as you say he is then the goals will return but i wouldnt hold my breath. He has been shocking for 2 months yet still plays every game, its completly unfair to the other players that a complet waster gets the shirt every match, when other players perform better than him when given the chance.
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Postby alanricouk » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:31 pm

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alanricouk wrote:A pass back to the center or defence does not constitute good work from Kuijt in my eyes. He was poor, very poor.

well thats exactly what reira spent most of the game doing as well .

I know, cos it was a sh!t 4-4-2. In the 4-2-3-1 he doesn't do it, whereas Kuijt does it still.
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:32 pm

alanricouk wrote:A pass back to the center or defence does not constitute good work from Kuijt in my eyes. He was poor, very poor.

petar, you're on the windup mate.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:32 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
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GYBS wrote:Kuyt also had a shot on goal as well mate when he controlled a ball first time and got shot of quickly in a short space but was blocked . reira spent most of the time trying to cut inside and ended up being in hibberts pocket most of the match and created no chances - nothing . and it just shows total anti kuyt rubbish if you think reira contributed but kuyt didnt when they were pretty much the same all game long .

you must be a blind man or something, even when Riera's playing badly he gets involved and at least keeps the balance and shape right. Kuyt does nothing! off the ball he closes a few balls down, but offensively? almost nothing, he dosnt have the physical attributes or skill to go past the man, he has barely any passing abilty so can only do the simple ball, and couldnt trap a bag of cement, giving the opposition plent of time to close him down. He gets himself into decent scoring positions some times, but thats not enough playing right wing. Poor player and should be dropped ASAP

how the hell did he manage to be our second top scorer this season and be involved in a number of our goals this season if thats the case then ?

like i said he gets himself into scoring positons, and he will get a goal now and then, which apart from workrate is the one thing he can do, however the goals dried up ages ago and his purple patch is finished. If he is as good as you say he is then the goals will return but i wouldnt hold my breath. He has been shocking for 2 months yet still plays every game, its completly unfair to the other players that a complet waster gets the shirt every match, when other players perform better than him when given the chance.

which other players perform better than him out there on the right ? and dont say pennant as the only performance he gave was drinking with his right hand - and the guy is gone thank god .
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Postby alanricouk » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:33 pm

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alanricouk wrote:A pass back to the center or defence does not constitute good work from Kuijt in my eyes. He was poor, very poor.

petar, you're on the windup mate.

Did you say he was better than Ronaldo? :Oo:
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:33 pm

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alanricouk wrote:A pass back to the center or defence does not constitute good work from Kuijt in my eyes. He was poor, very poor.

well thats exactly what reira spent most of the game doing as well .

I know, cos it was a sh!t 4-4-2. In the 4-2-3-1 he doesn't do it, whereas Kuijt does it still.

really ? how the hell did he manage to score so many important goals in the cl last year playing there last season and this season in the prem - as well as being involved and setting up important goals namely babels against the mancs ?
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