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s@int wrote:Just a very poor performance made worse by some of Rafa's strange substitutions and lethargic play by us once we went in front. No drive no urgency and no movement for long periods of the game. I just think Derby dragged us down to their level with their attrocious passing.

Rafa needs to stop treating these games as walkovers, and Bigmick needs to stop saying how easy its going to be. Every time he says that we struggle

mick u jinx 

puroresu wrote:

The_Rock wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

lakes10 wrote:Klinsmann BY 2008??

Don't talk rubbish.

We  were very lucky. Scraping it against bottom of the league teams is just not good enough regardless of the result. Gerrard and Torres both scoring for us. Two key match defining players that can change a game. Just proves that Rafa was right with his statement earlier in the week by saying the difference between us and the other top 3 was that they've more of these match winning players. I don't blame Rafa. He's doing the best with what was and is available to him. If any dead wood should be shifted out, it should be several players (you know who they are) along with that wanker Dick Parry, who has held us back at least 15 years, and the the owners. If they don't realize that they need to allow Rafa to sell and buy at least2 more of these aforementioned players, then they can go and get f*cked.

err whatever u said , sell carson ,voro , crouch , aurelio and keep kewell , kuyt and riise . riise showed today why he is a better player and one of the best left backs in the pl . we need a top draw striker and a quality winger who can operate on either wings . Robben is a ideal player but i don't think we can get him , a cheaper option but operates only flank each are gabby abghlor and  young

Agreed...Riise is a good LB. He is fast enough...good in the air. He is way better than Auerlio.

Can't believe ppl were wanting to get rid of him.....

Like i said....if we sign the next maldini then by all means lets get rid of riise...until then...he should stay.

i aint a fan of riise. I think his been poor this season but at the same time Aurelio is poor.

s@int wrote:Rafa needs to stop treating these games as walkovers, and Bigmick needs to stop saying how easy its going to be. Every time he says that we struggle

i don't think rafa treated this as a walkover at all saint... the team he fielded was strong enough... look at what man u fielded... it's similarly not the best team but not a very bad team...

we were just very complacent and lazy after we went ahead...

you were right about bigmick though... 

puroresu wrote:

The_Rock wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

lakes10 wrote:Klinsmann BY 2008??

Don't talk rubbish.

We  were very lucky. Scraping it against bottom of the league teams is just not good enough regardless of the result. Gerrard and Torres both scoring for us. Two key match defining players that can change a game. Just proves that Rafa was right with his statement earlier in the week by saying the difference between us and the other top 3 was that they've more of these match winning players. I don't blame Rafa. He's doing the best with what was and is available to him. If any dead wood should be shifted out, it should be several players (you know who they are) along with that wanker Dick Parry, who has held us back at least 15 years, and the the owners. If they don't realize that they need to allow Rafa to sell and buy at least2 more of these aforementioned players, then they can go and get f*cked.

err whatever u said , sell carson ,voro , crouch , aurelio and keep kewell , kuyt and riise . riise showed today why he is a better player and one of the best left backs in the pl . we need a top draw striker and a quality winger who can operate on either wings . Robben is a ideal player but i don't think we can get him , a cheaper option but operates only flank each are gabby abghlor and  young

Agreed...Riise is a good LB. He is fast enough...good in the air. He is way better than Auerlio.

Can't believe ppl were wanting to get rid of him.....

Like i said....if we sign the next maldini then by all means lets get rid of riise...until then...he should stay.

i aint a fan of riise. I think his been poor this season but at the same time Aurelio is poor.

Toffeehater wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

lakes10 wrote:Klinsmann BY 2008??

Don't talk rubbish.

We  were very lucky. Scraping it against bottom of the league teams is just not good enough regardless of the result. Gerrard and Torres both scoring for us. Two key match defining players that can change a game. Just proves that Rafa was right with his statement earlier in the week by saying the difference between us and the other top 3 was that they've more of these match winning players. I don't blame Rafa. He's doing the best with what was and is available to him. If any dead wood should be shifted out, it should be several players (you know who they are) along with that wanker Dick Parry, who has held us back at least 15 years, and the the owners. If they don't realize that they need to allow Rafa to sell and buy at least2 more of these aforementioned players, then they can go and get f*cked.

err whatever u said , sell carson ,voro , crouch , aurelio and keep kewell , kuyt and riise . riise showed today why he is a better player and one of the best left backs in the pl . we need a top draw striker and a quality winger who can operate on either wings . Robben is a ideal player but i don't think we can get him , a cheaper option but operates only flank each are gabby abghlor and  young

s@int wrote:and Bigmick needs to stop saying how easy its going to be. Every time he says that we struggle

Please take note of this Bigmick

Santa wrote:Utter bl00dy hopeless...our midfield was overrun...Veronin did ...why no Mascherano to steady the midfield and allow Gerrard to play higher? For a Brazilian, Auerlio sure can't pass and Babel was aweful at the wing!!! The only saving grace was the 3 lucky points...thank god for Gerrard. Second best (and nearly loss) against the bottom team who can't score at home that's saying something...I wonder what was in Rafa's thoughts... 

Dude..u echo my points.

For Gerrard to play to his potential, he needs Mash behind him.

For me babel is a waste of money...I know ppl here are saying give him time...but my thoughts are he is not good enough. Maybe he could make a good striker (but he has to play there for me to have an opinion about him)..but rafa keeps playing him on the wings...and babel keeps doing a "sissoko"

If Rafa hadn't bought Lucas (8 million) and Babel (11 million)...we could have bought a 19 million star player....but rafa decided to buy quantity instead of quality..and now he is saying we need to buy more 20 million players

How about getting rid of the deadwood 1st ? I mean balance the
books before buying. The owners already have enough problem paying for the stadium....

Thinkpad wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

lakes10 wrote:Klinsmann BY 2008??

Don't talk rubbish.

We  were very lucky. Scraping it against bottom of the league teams is just not good enough regardless of the result. Gerrard and Torres both scoring for us. Two key match defining players that can change a game. Just proves that Rafa was right with his statement earlier in the week by saying the difference between us and the other top 3 was that they've more of these match winning players. I don't blame Rafa. He's doing the best with what was and is available to him. If any dead wood should be shifted out, it should be several players (you know who they are) along with that wanker Dick Parry, who has held us back at least 15 years, and the the owners. If they don't realize that they need to allow Rafa to sell and buy at least2 more of these aforementioned players, then they can go and get f*cked.

err whatever u said , sell carson ,voro , crouch , aurelio and keep kewell , kuyt and riise . riise showed today why he is a better player and one of the best left backs in the pl . we need a top draw striker and a quality winger who can operate on either wings . Robben is a ideal player but i don't think we can get him , a cheaper option but operates only flank each are gabby abghlor and  young

Yes.. Young and that Portsmouth player.. what his name..

puroresu wrote:

The_Rock wrote:Why didn't we play like we did after we conceded the goal Thats what which irritates me. We are good enough to hammer teams but why did we switch off after scoring ?

Is this due to rafa's instruction ? 

its happened to often which suggests to me that rafa still does not have it in him to just go for teams and score as many as possible.  His cautious.  Always has been and wont change.

thinking that we could just cruise past Derby again and put the players on battery saving mode...how lame is that? 

The_Rock wrote:

Santa wrote:Utter bl00dy hopeless...our midfield was overrun...Veronin did ...why no Mascherano to steady the midfield and allow Gerrard to play higher? For a Brazilian, Auerlio sure can't pass and Babel was aweful at the wing!!! The only saving grace was the 3 lucky points...thank god for Gerrard. Second best (and nearly loss) against the bottom team who can't score at home that's saying something...I wonder what was in Rafa's thoughts... 

Dude..u echo my points.

For Gerrard to play to his potential, he needs Mash behind him.

For me babel is a waste of money...I know ppl here are saying give him time...but my thoughts are he is not good enough. Maybe he could make a good striker (but he has to play there for me to have an opinion about him)..but rafa keeps playing him on the wings...and babel keeps doing a "sissoko"

If Rafa hadn't bought Lucas (8 million) and Babel (11 million)...we could have bought a 19 million star player....but rafa decided to buy quantity instead of quality..and now he is saying we need to buy more 20 million players

How about getting rid of the deadwood 1st ? I mean balance the
books before buying. The owners already have enough problem paying for the stadium....

The_Rock wrote:

Santa wrote:Utter bl00dy hopeless...our midfield was overrun...Veronin did ...why no Mascherano to steady the midfield and allow Gerrard to play higher? For a Brazilian, Auerlio sure can't pass and Babel was aweful at the wing!!! The only saving grace was the 3 lucky points...thank god for Gerrard. Second best (and nearly loss) against the bottom team who can't score at home that's saying something...I wonder what was in Rafa's thoughts... 

Dude..u echo my points.

For Gerrard to play to his potential, he needs Mash behind him.

For me babel is a waste of money...I know ppl here are saying give him time...but my thoughts are he is not good enough. Maybe he could make a good striker (but he has to play there for me to have an opinion about him)..but rafa keeps playing him on the wings...and babel keeps doing a "sissoko"

If Rafa hadn't bought Lucas (8 million) and Babel (11 million)...we could have bought a 19 million star player....but rafa decided to buy quantity instead of quality..and now he is saying we need to buy more 20 million players

How about getting rid of the deadwood 1st ? I mean balance the
books before buying. The owners already have enough problem paying for the stadium....