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by **Owzat** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:24 am

7_Kewell wrote:Kuyt was poor, but i'm not going to mark him out for criticism. Same for Lucas...it was a bad day all round and has to go down as a 'tried it, but fail' exercise.

I'm sure Roy knows it and will change things for the West Brom game.

Unfortunately a key part of management is getting it right and no bigger test than the big(ger) games. Woy could easily be out of his depth

by **In and Out** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:56 am

Owzat wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Kuyt was poor, but i'm not going to mark him out for criticism. Same for Lucas...it was a bad day all round and has to go down as a 'tried it, but fail' exercise.

I'm sure Roy knows it and will change things for the West Brom game.

Unfortunately a key part of management is getting it right and no bigger test than the big(ger) games. Woy could easily be out of his depth

Unfortunately a manager isn't able to make a player technically better than he already is. Kuyt is limited, always has been always will be.

by **Kopite-Jud** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:56 am

Kuyt wants away Kuyt wants anfield exit - agent

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:33 pm

Kopite-Jud wrote:Kuyt wants away Kuyt wants anfield exit - agent

Not good .

by **Thewaykokid** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:53 pm

this seems very contradictory, didn't he come out and commit his future after the world cup?

by **maguskwt** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:24 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Kopite-Jud wrote:Kuyt wants away Kuyt wants anfield exit - agent

Not good .

Not good indeed.

But can you blame him? We ARE a sinking ship... not because of Roy but because of the owners. And when you have the chance to play for the European champions and treble winners and also under a Manager who knows his value, who can blame Dirk Kuyt? He has given more than 100% to the club every single time he puts on the red shirt, bleeds for the shirt and always kisses the badge. But if he logs onto newkit forums and he will probably think "feck this I'm outta here..."

If he wants to go and if we do get about 15 million, we should probably let him go...it's fair play, not like mascherano case...

by **maguskwt** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:32 pm

In and Out wrote:
Owzat wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Kuyt was poor, but i'm not going to mark him out for criticism. Same for Lucas...it was a bad day all round and has to go down as a 'tried it, but fail' exercise.

I'm sure Roy knows it and will change things for the West Brom game.

Unfortunately a key part of management is getting it right and no bigger test than the big(ger) games. Woy could easily be out of his depth

Unfortunately a manager isn't able to make a player technically better than he already is. Kuyt is limited, always has been always will be.

Yeah? So why is it that somehow he is always used by every manager he plays for, even by his national team who reached the World Cup Final, valued and appreciated by his team mates and is one of the most consistent performers wherever he plays? Football is not always about skill and technical ability. If you have the spirit and good working attitude, it goes a long way.

Now THAT'S the spirit!

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:00 pm

Spot on Mags

by **haps** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:15 pm

Anything LIKE £15m for Dirk would be grab it and run time but ... big but, there must be some creative midfielder (or two) targetted to replace these guys. Masch is out the door (good riddance). Poulsen may do a job there but we are screaming out for a classy winger. Would love someone with Robben's kind of talents at the club. Sigh.

by **Dundalk** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:02 pm

Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson has suggested forces are at work behind the scenes in an attempt to lure forward Dirk Kuyt to Inter Milan.

And the 62-year-old claimed Inter's ex-Reds boss Rafael Benitez would be reneging on an agreement not to raid Anfield for former players.

Hodgson denied any knowledge of Kuyt wanting to leave despite suggestions by his agent that talks between the two clubs are continuing.

The Englishman did confirm, however, that the club had held talks with his former side Fulham over left-back Paul Konchesky.

"Dirk has not expressed that sentiment to me," said Hodgson, who insisted the assurances he had received from Inter president Massimo Moratti last week that the Italians were not intending to buy any Liverpool players still held firm.

"When he left the club Rafael Benitez signed an agreement that he would not poach players from Liverpool.

"We haven't received an offer from any club so this is something obviously going on behind the scenes, with the agent possibly talking to the manager of Inter Milan.

"We don't welcome any offers, we haven't received an offer and at this late stage of the transfer window it would be remarkably unusual for us to accept an offer for a player we don't want to leave for money we don't need.

"I would suggest, with respect, if his agent had a serious plan to move him to the club he should have been working during the last four to five weeks and not the last few days.

"It is highly unlikely we could receive any offer from another club which we could seriously entertain."

Kuyt's agent Rob Jansen claimed in the Dutch press that negotiations were on-going.

"The two clubs continue to talk, but things are moving slowly," he said.

"The difference between demand and offer is important.

"It is something between the clubs but Dirk told Liverpool he no longer wants to be involved as this is something that regards his career and life.

"It doesn't mean he wants to leave at all costs, but when a club like Inter comes along it's normal to look into the situation further."

LINK

by **In and Out** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:07 am

maguskwt wrote:
In and Out wrote:
Owzat wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Kuyt was poor, but i'm not going to mark him out for criticism. Same for Lucas...it was a bad day all round and has to go down as a 'tried it, but fail' exercise.

I'm sure Roy knows it and will change things for the West Brom game.

Unfortunately a key part of management is getting it right and no bigger test than the big(ger) games. Woy could easily be out of his depth

Unfortunately a manager isn't able to make a player technically better than he already is. Kuyt is limited, always has been always will be.

Yeah? So why is it that somehow he is always used by every manager he plays for, even by his national team who reached the World Cup Final, valued and appreciated by his team mates and is one of the most consistent performers wherever he plays? Football is not always about skill and technical ability. If you have the spirit and good working attitude, it goes a long way.

Now THAT'S the spirit!

That means we'd all make profesional footballers then wouldn't it :laugh:

it's not as simplistic as that spider man.

by **burjennio** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:22 am

he does have technical ability he just isnt blessed with quickness in his movement with or without the ball, thats why he sometimes looks untidy when cutting back or inside. His technical ability in laying the ball off 1st time is outstanding

by **maguskwt** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:54 am

In and Out wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
In and Out wrote:
Owzat wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Kuyt was poor, but i'm not going to mark him out for criticism. Same for Lucas...it was a bad day all round and has to go down as a 'tried it, but fail' exercise.

I'm sure Roy knows it and will change things for the West Brom game.

Unfortunately a key part of management is getting it right and no bigger test than the big(ger) games. Woy could easily be out of his depth

Unfortunately a manager isn't able to make a player technically better than he already is. Kuyt is limited, always has been always will be.

Yeah? So why is it that somehow he is always used by every manager he plays for, even by his national team who reached the World Cup Final, valued and appreciated by his team mates and is one of the most consistent performers wherever he plays? Football is not always about skill and technical ability. If you have the spirit and good working attitude, it goes a long way.

Now THAT'S the spirit!

That means we'd all make profesional footballers then wouldn't it it's not as simplistic as that spider man.

Well of course, it goes without saying that you need to have what it takes first. You and me may have plenty of spirit but doesn't have what it takes in terms of football ability and physical ability to play professional football. Kuyt does. Is that easy or what?

by **maguskwt** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:58 am

Anyway... I do pity Roy with this Kuyt and Mascherano situations... feckin last minute the feckers.

by **In and Out** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:06 am

burjennio wrote:he does have technical ability he just isnt blessed with quickness in his movement with or without the ball, thats why he sometimes looks untidy when cutting back or inside. His technical ability in laying the ball off 1st time is outstanding

Is that when he's 'trapping' the ball or intentionally passing it.

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