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by **Anfield rapper** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:07 am

Got to be Kenny. He's the only one with a good chance of persuading Gerrard and Torres to stay. They just won't respect Hodgson enough.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:14 am

ConnO'var wrote:It's over and done with... rafa is gone..... It's a moot point if you thought he was the dog's boll0cks or not worth the salt.....

Time to let Rafa move on and focus on LFC.... nothing we say will change the fact that he's not going to have a role in our fortunes this coming season.

I'm glad that Kenny has indicated an interest.... if anyone can convince Gerrard and Torres to stay, it'll be him unless the decision is taken out of his hands by T & T. With his reputation, it should also increase the interest of investors in buying the club off of 'em 2 bastards.

We rebuild now and with Kenny in charge, the dim ray of light at the end of the tunnel just got a lot brighter.... IMHO.

If only it were that simple Lad

,but the truth is at this juncture in time it remains a significantly bitter pill to swallow ,so I have no intention of forgetting about the underhand circumstances that culminated in his departure, because they go hand in hand with the deception that is rife behind the closed doors of Anfield .....

I hope for all concerned that Dalglish gets given the task to deal in his own inimitable way with the problems that continue to constantly arise ....... but it is more than an educated guess that a yes man will be procured for obvious reasons

I expect this action alone to identify exactly the extent of this once GREAT CLUBS ambition under this contemptuous regime

So whilst these owners are at this club I will personally keep in mind the devastation I felt when a World Class manager was shown the door .....

by **SeaofRed** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:17 am

I'm surprised that Sammy Lee hasn't gotten more attention, I think he'd be ideal.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:19 am

Igor Zidane wrote:Feck me i've been in half an hour editing me multiple posts . Soz about that , my phone crashed as i hit the post thingy . Never mind . I'll support whoever is the next manager( BAR redknapp ) whoever it is , cos that is what we do . They are going to have a twa.t of a job on there hands though keeping our whoppers happy .

Don't worry Lad some of the roots on here need to hear it more than once :laugh:

by **psycllone** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:22 am

between woy and kenny, i'd pick kenny but he does'nt deserve to end up like souness if things go bad for us!! its like that saying..."The evil that men do lives after them, The good is often buried with their bones."

by **stmichael** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:26 am

jono wrote:still makes financial sense despite whoever is making the decisions at the club

as long as i don't hear any cr@p about a 5 year plan in his introductory press conference i'd resigned to the fact that he'll be a solid appointment at this stage.

by **Scottbot** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:33 am

Ciggy wrote:
Lee J wrote:and it's not ar$e licking - it's called 'supporting our next manager' (if he should get the job).

Like people supported rafa you mean

Would Chelsea, United, Spurs, Arsenal, City want him?

The answer is no and he should not even be considered for such a big club, this is on par with the signing of Robbie keane that shouldnt have happened neither should this, mark my words it will all end in tears even before the Christmas.

0-0 draws all over the shop 10 men behind the ball, if people thought Rafa was defensive wait till this fella arrives.

Doesnt no one remember the end of last season when Fulham came to Anfield and the yard dogs didnt even move over the halfway line?
Feck my life might aswell give fat Sam the job they are of the same ilk.

Lynds - If you think Hodgson teams simply stick 10 men behind the ball and play for 0-0 every week then you obviously don't watch any football outside of LFC. All the smaller sides play 10 behind the ball at Anfield and the other top 4 (sorry top 7) clubs. That doesn't mean they do it every week and lets be honest here for a minute, we've not exaclty been treated to Barcelonaesque football the past 6 years have we? For the most part it's been functional and effective, and on occasions fantastic, on others, simply awful.

Now I don't think Hodsgon has the profile to be the manager of Liverpool Football Club and under normal circumstances I don't think he'd get much of a look in BUT i'll tell ya what, he would have done (in my opinion) a hell of a better job than Benitez with those players last season. I'd put my house on it. We were fookin terrible last year, absolutely stunk the place up, there's no getting away from it, and we quite possibly would have stunk the place up again this time around with Rafa in charge going into next season.

Hodgson's record isn't amazing but it's not a bad CV either. He's never rearly had a one of the BIG teams to manage so I don't think he has had that much opportunity as far as winning championships. He took the Swiss to the World Cup in 94 and got them to the last 16. He qualified comfortably for Euro 96 before leaving before the tournament started. He steadied the ship at a struggling Inter Milan side in the mid-nineties, taking them to a UEFA Cup final. The blackburn stinit was not so good, he finished 7th (i think) in his 1st season which was good but bought poorly (Kevin Davies and Ashley Ward spring to mind) and left the club in mid-season with them sitting bottom of the table. Most of his other jobs have been working in Scandanavian countries, generally successfully, he won several titles with Malmo I believe and has had some under-dog success in European comps with a number of teams. The job he has been doing at Fulham has been belittled by a number of posters on here but to take a club on the brink of relegation to mid-table safety and a UEFA Cup final is no mean feat, is it? We might view a UEFA Cup final as 'Euro Disney' (not that we could get to the final) but it was quite a big deal to Fulham.

I hope it's Kenny coz Hodgson won't strand a chance in this place. Santimonious posters whinge on about poor Rafa getting grief after 4-5 years but Hodgson has copped his fair share already and he hasn't even got the job.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:37 am

Ben Patrick wrote:Only in football could you win feck all for 3 or 4 seasons and still be entitled to compensation.
he has walked into a new job immediately so why should we pay him anything ?

I believe he has an affection for the club, love though ?

Nah

Only in football could you breeze into a club promise implicitly to deliver the World and its sister and in the space of a 3 year tenure reduce the club to the biggest laughing stock in World football while continually syphoning a huge amount of the clubs wealth ...
and expect to walk away with a sizeable profit of ridiculous proportions whilst raising the debt on the club from 44 million to a ridiculous 400 million and then count on the fans (Blessed with tunnel vision ) making the manager a suitable scapegoat

Its this I personally find so laughable that benitez's loyalty to the club is being brought into question at a time when we are being raped in broad daylight

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:39 am

Igor Zidane wrote:Woy's first team sheet hopefully.

Pepe weina

Gwen Johnson Jamie Cawwager Daniel Agger Emiliano Insua

Maxi Wodweguez Steven Gewward Javier Machewano Albert Weiwa

Dirk Kuyt Fernando Towwes.

Don't forget the WOBBERS that run the Club

by **Ben Patrick** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:43 am

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:Only in football could you win feck all for 3 or 4 seasons and still be entitled to compensation.
he has walked into a new job immediately so why should we pay him anything ?

I believe he has an affection for the club, love though ?

Nah

Only in football could you breeze into a club promise implicitly to deliver the World and its sister and in the space of a 3 year tenure reduce the club to the biggest laughing stock in World football while continually syphoning a huge amount of the clubs wealth ...
and expect to walk away with a sizeable profit of ridiculous proportions whilst raising the debt on the club from 44 million to a ridiculous 400 million and then count on the fans (Blessed with tunnel vision ) making the manager a suitable scapegoat

Its this I personally find so laughable that benitez's loyalty to the club is being brought into question at a time when we are being raped in broad daylight

They are 2 different things mate.

Why cant i think the owners are scum bags and also that Rafa is more in it for himself than most fans would believe ?

Because thats what i feel.

by **lakes10** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:52 am

stmichael wrote:
jono wrote:still makes financial sense despite whoever is making the decisions at the club

as long as i don't hear any cr@p about a 5 year plan in his introductory press conference i'd resigned to the fact that he'll be a solid appointment at this stage.

yer heard it all before....just bloody win the prem.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:55 am

Ben Patrick wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:Only in football could you win feck all for 3 or 4 seasons and still be entitled to compensation.
he has walked into a new job immediately so why should we pay him anything ?

I believe he has an affection for the club, love though ?

Nah

Only in football could you breeze into a club promise implicitly to deliver the World and its sister and in the space of a 3 year tenure reduce the club to the biggest laughing stock in World football while continually syphoning a huge amount of the clubs wealth ...
and expect to walk away with a sizeable profit of ridiculous proportions whilst raising the debt on the club from 44 million to a ridiculous 400 million and then count on the fans (Blessed with tunnel vision ) making the manager a suitable scapegoat

Its this I personally find so laughable that benitez's loyalty to the club is being brought into question at a time when we are being raped in broad daylight

They are 2 different things mate.

Why cant i think the owners are scum bags and also that Rafa is more in it for himself than most fans would believe ?

Because thats what i feel.

Its not two different things though is it

the two go hand in hand only one being tangibly more detrimental to the future of our club
It seems there exists a lot of contempt for Benitez ..... Well I can only speak for myself when I talk about the anger I feel over his violent ejection from the club and fans he fought for ,but trust me Ben I am fucking bubbling here brimming with disinterest with the Club I have supported Man and Boy for 30 glorious years ,I simply dont recognize it anymore and its left me seething

by **Ben Patrick** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:57 am

I agree with you about the owners.

But i am glad he has gone.

I think we would have got steadily worse under him.
I also dont think he deserved a penny compensation if he was to start a new job so soon.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:02 pm

If I finish a contract and the figure agreed is diluted in any respect ,I would be on the blower to my solicitor before I left the room
the fact benitez settled on a more agreeable sum underlines the mans character

by **Ben Patrick** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:07 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:If I finish a contract and the figure agreed is diluted in any respect ,I would be on the blower to my solicitor before I left the room
the fact benitez settled on a more agreeable sum underlines the mans character

No it doesnt, it means he knew he had another job lined up and would have been unable to take it if he wanted the full 16 million :;):

And i am not disputing the fact that he was entitled to the money.
I am saying a) he didnt desrerve it.
b) given the clubs financial state and the fact that he was walking into a new job immediately that is higher paid to me shows his love for the club and our fans is not what some would try and have us believe.

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