Liverpool FC Forum

Number 9 wrote:

lakes10 wrote:In my own view at the end of the day it comes down to who is bigger Rafa or Liverpool FC. I THINK it is clear that Torres and SG can no longer work with Rafa and if he stays they will go, Rafa will spin this to say that if he stays he did not sell them and it was the club that sold them due to the debt.

Rafa is holding a gun at the clubs head.

You are an absolute joke,a jester a gimp...you are full of sh,ite always have been always will be......my mate knows this,i've been told this...blah blah blah....ABSOLUTE LIAR!

fuc'king dirty rotten liar.......fuc'k off away from my club!

Lando_Griffin wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

s@int wrote:

Why would you think he is a "nice guy" when he falls out with everyone that says no to him, and anyone that criticises him too!

I think most would do the same thing if they were expected to challenge for the league with the budget we have had each summer.

No he doesn't, he just demanded more money than we could afford, but unfortunately for him we are now in such massive debt that he has been forced to try to manage without money and has failed miserably.

Actually all he asked for was the usual 25Mil he got each summer plus whatever he made back from sales. Not really a lot is it considering Utd spent 30Mil on 1 player. At the end of the day the owners said yes to him when negotiating his contract and they didn't deliver their end. He is entitled to feel aggrieved.

Then signs a contract that gives him a fortune within 48 hours of leaving. (presumably he only put that bit in because he loves us so much  )

In todays game that is normal. Any manager at the top level has compensation written into his contract. Would you really imagine he would have singed his contract with out any personal protection?

Please even Houllier got 12mil when he left.

I don't hate Rafa and I am not blind to what the owners have done, BUT I am also not blind to what Rafa has failed to do either.

Right but we are in the situation where we need new players. We wont get new players unless we get more money. We won't get more money unless we get new owners. Current manager or otherwise that situation does not change, and if you think the current squad is good enough then why are some of our best players saying we need better players?  Rafa has made mistakes but to focus on him so much is out of order.

It seems our top players want to leave BECAUSE of Rafa, and like many that support Rafa your expectations have become so limited that you really believe we would struggle to find a top new manager.

Based on what a couple of bull. rumors from RAWK or TLW?

Bav mate you got to stop using  budget when you talk about Rafa, The cuy has had over 250mil to spend on players and still has not been able to build a team that has won anything in 4 years.

you posted yourself for him to leave the club....why change your mind now?

But was he given it all in 1 go? Or in chunks of 100Mil? No he was given in it dribs and drabs meaning we could never afford to buy 2 20Mil players in 1 transfer window. You all keep looking at the total amount but what has his net spend been on average each season?

soory mate but it just dont stand up, he has taken 59 to 77 players to this club, if he wanted to buy better players then he should have taken less and picked better players to buy.

Your argument is water tight. 59-77? Is it 60? Or maybe 72?

lakes10 wrote:

Number 9 wrote:

lakes10 wrote:In my own view at the end of the day it comes down to who is bigger Rafa or Liverpool FC. I THINK it is clear that Torres and SG can no longer work with Rafa and if he stays they will go, Rafa will spin this to say that if he stays he did not sell them and it was the club that sold them due to the debt.

Rafa is holding a gun at the clubs head.

You are an absolute joke,a jester a gimp...you are full of sh,ite always have been always will be......my mate knows this,i've been told this...blah blah blah....ABSOLUTE LIAR!

fuc'king dirty rotten liar.......fuc'k off away from my club!

as i said mate...in my own view

own view....full of mad dogs sh'te!

YOU INSULT AND PATRONISE PEOPLE...you are a fuc'king joker lad!

psycllone wrote:rafa shud leave...! his tactics are becoming way too predictable, i have rarely seen him play an aggressive formation,his mentality is just way too defensive and last but not least...he has too much faith in players like lucas! and yeah most of his transfers in his 5 year tenure have been major flops(josemi,babel,dossena may be even aqua)

Number 9 wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

Number 9 wrote:

lakes10 wrote:In my own view at the end of the day it comes down to who is bigger Rafa or Liverpool FC. I THINK it is clear that Torres and SG can no longer work with Rafa and if he stays they will go, Rafa will spin this to say that if he stays he did not sell them and it was the club that sold them due to the debt.

Rafa is holding a gun at the clubs head.

You are an absolute joke,a jester a gimp...you are full of sh,ite always have been always will be......my mate knows this,i've been told this...blah blah blah....ABSOLUTE LIAR!

fuc'king dirty rotten liar.......fuc'k off away from my club!

as i said mate...in my own view

own view....full of mad dogs sh'te!

YOU INSULT AND PATRONISE PEOPLE...you are a fuc'king joker lad!

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual who cant make his mind up on what his best team is. He has to constantly change personell, both players and coaching staff. There must be a reason for this? He has had, as you said, far better players than he has now. But, for whatever reason, he has shown them the door.
Ive said before there is a pattern there for any psychologists among us (professional or amateur) to study and analyse. My take is that he is constantly looking for the players who fit his ideal preffered formation. Sometimes he has them but his inability to engage and man-manage causes friction and conflict (real or imagined) and they have to go.
Rafa, in other words, is looking for a perfection he cannot find, hence the revolving door policy. If he would try and accept that players have limitations and concentrate on their individual strengths to benefit the team then maybe he would find contentment.
As it is he is unhappy, which is makng us unhappy...

Will this do fella ,just one to many inferences at the managers  state of mind 
Memory going to it seems ..........

"Your on Ignore enough is enough , you silly little man"

Is this how you ignore people?

Maybe you should give lessons...?

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual

Ciggy wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual

This is getting beyond a joke now, read that back and look at how pathetic it sounds, disturbed individual? he's not a feckin serial killer ffs.

Why is it pathetic?
Do you think hes content?
Do you think he looks happy?

Sir Roger wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual

This is getting beyond a joke now, read that back and look at how pathetic it sounds, disturbed individual? he's not a feckin serial killer ffs.

Why is it pathetic?
Do you think hes content?
Do you think he looks happy?

Ciggy wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual

This is getting beyond a joke now, read that back and look at how pathetic it sounds, disturbed individual? he's not a feckin serial killer ffs.

  disturbed individual - lock the windows and bolt the doors kids, Rafa's coming!

That might just make my day and its only 10 o'clock - someones going to have to come up with a whopper to beat that one

And people wonder why the people who want him sacked get laughed at

Lakes your way too emotive the way you talk about Rafa n all - got a gun to the head of LFC 

mart wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual

This is getting beyond a joke now, read that back and look at how pathetic it sounds, disturbed individual? he's not a feckin serial killer ffs.

Why is it pathetic?
Do you think hes content?
Do you think he looks happy?

So if you are not happy you are a disturbed individual?

Yeah sir Roger himself is disturbed because he is not happy with rafa...

Greavesie wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual

This is getting beyond a joke now, read that back and look at how pathetic it sounds, disturbed individual? he's not a feckin serial killer ffs.

  disturbed individual - lock the windows and bolt the doors kids, Rafa's coming!

That might just make my day and its only 10 o'clock - someones going to have to come up with a whopper to beat that one

And people wonder why the people who want him sacked get laughed at

Lakes your way too emotive the way you talk about Rafa n all - got a gun to the head of LFC 

He's not emotive mate, he just like to blabber complete non-sense on and on and on... same in different threads lol.

maguskwt wrote:

mart wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual

This is getting beyond a joke now, read that back and look at how pathetic it sounds, disturbed individual? he's not a feckin serial killer ffs.

Why is it pathetic?
Do you think hes content?
Do you think he looks happy?

So if you are not happy you are a disturbed individual?

Yeah sir Roger himself is disturbed because he is not happy with rafa...

Fu'ckin right Im disturbed!
What sane person wouldnt be with whats happening at the club?
Sheesh!!!

Sir Roger wrote:

maguskwt wrote:

mart wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Some could argue that Rafa is a disturbed individual

This is getting beyond a joke now, read that back and look at how pathetic it sounds, disturbed individual? he's not a feckin serial killer ffs.

Why is it pathetic?
Do you think hes content?
Do you think he looks happy?

So if you are not happy you are a disturbed individual?

Yeah sir Roger himself is disturbed because he is not happy with rafa...

Fu'ckin right Im disturbed!
What sane person wouldnt be with whats happening at the club?
Sheesh!!!

Disturbed meaning you are not sane