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BKrimmel wrote:The lack of any creativity while on the ball in this game disturbs me the most. The answer: A midfielder with pace to back off defenders when he has the ball and draw serious attention away from Gerrard and Torres. Sub answer: Get Lucas off the field.

Igor Zidane wrote:Lets face it they were all sh!t and Roy needs to tell them so . Feck me not one of them had a good game not one . We looked exactly like we are a mid table side . Roy needs to sort it out and i believe he will , but he seriously needs to give everyone of them a kick up the jacksey . NOT GOOD ENOUGH .

bavlondon wrote:Roy or no Roy this team needed a major overhaul this summer and we haven't had that.

fivecups wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:This was more than just one defeat - this was a stuffing against a team who were supposed our rivals for CL - a team that didn't even play a true striker and we were outclassed . We had nk creativity , no passions , no pace , no intent and the worst thing is at numerous timess we parked the bus and had 11 men behind the ball - that's something I would never have seen from us . We were toothless and outclassed . We were set up wrong and got rightly punished . It's a mistake the manager must recover from quickly

I agree with some of that Benny. I have to say I thought City were superb, I think we may be hearing a few I told you so's from Mick as the season goes on because if they continue to 'gel' and build on that performance they're not going to be far off come May. Milner already looks like a great buy - he was everywhere tonight - he's got the engine of Gerrard 10 years ago and a great football brain. I thought Barry was excellent as well. With their setup they pressed the lives out of us the whole game. Tevez is brilliant at the pressing game - he's at the defence like his life depends on it, and the whole match if one of our players beat someone there was another City player there to back him up - somewhat like us in the second half of 08/09. Mancini is singing the 'attitude' mantra as well. I thought they were excellent although me made it easier by playing a 4-4-2 - a mistake in anyones book.

metalhead wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Yes Hodgson should be given time but go and read the predictions thread and people are talking about winning the title and easily getting into the CL spots above teams like city spurs and arsenal yet we are already falling behind those guys and look at the results - we are only missing one player and have no creativity at all and don't have any to bring in . Maybe people will realise their expectations are a little high and lower them to more realistic standards that fit our situation .

Not many on here said we would win the league! many said that we will be a steady ship and try to get into the top 4 and I think we can still do that.

People really are forgetting the fact is that Man City spent more than 100m quid this summer.. and that is a FACT!

They have more money than us --- FACT

They have better players ---- FACT

OneHotRed wrote:Massive tactical error combined with lack of personell cost us tonight, which, to be honest is scary, with any luck, Roy will learn from this, well he has to because if he keeps making making mistakes like tonight, the red tide wont be forgiving, which is a shame as I dont think he will get much of a chance to prove himself, because all the fans are gutted still from last season, so a start like this, may aswell just get the can of petrol and swan vesta out for him.

burjennio wrote:It dawned on me while posting in another thread that Hodgson probably didnt have 442 in mind this morning when he thought about how he was gonna set up, but Macheranos stunt kind of forced him into a corner so instead of thrusting Poulsen into a huge game for his prem league debut, when not match fit he went for a 442 with players who were reasonably experienced, and Jovanovic who has played a steady run of games.

Lando_Griffin wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

Fauxy wrote:Do us a favour and wait until we have played at least 20 matches before you spout sh!t like that.

You cant judge the bloke yet, the feckin transfer window hasnt even closed!

Im judging him on the formation we played against Arsenal and tonight 4-4-2 when in reality it was 10-1 like he set his teams up in the past, he is way out of his debt, cant believe he said he hopes we wont be in for a 6-0 thrashing before kick off. 

well at least he doesn't ''guarantee'' top 4

   he hasn't maed a t"t of himself either, which Rafa did on a regular basis. FACT 

You don't deserve to follow this club, you serpent-like turd. Rafa won more major trophies in his first season with us than Roy ever has in his entire career.

Now suck on that, you pathetic mollusc.

You are one deluded individual. Hodgson is not and never has been fit to lace Rafa's boots and if you can't see that, having witnessed the total lack of control in our matches so far, you've less brain power than even I would have given you credit for.

1. Man-Marking at set-pieces. Only the long-in-the-tooth p*ssheads on here wanted us to play this outdated, inferior and (in the context of this season so far) absolutely disasterous system. You only need to open your eyes and see that it gives so much impetus to the attacker, as the defender is being pushed backwards towards his own goal. All this sh*t I keep reading on here about "zonal marking is W*nk because the players have to make a standing jump" is all well and good until they actually realise that it's much f*cking easier to jump from standstill than when being pushed backwards with the attacker's momentum keeping you down.

The amount of free headers every team has had (even Rabotnicki, I might add) against this utterly incompetent system is making me dread playing everyone, easpecially the scum with Vidic. (What price for a hattrick by the scruffy c*nt?)

Any side that gets their heading into gear will batter us and make tonight's scoreline look like a good result.

2. 4-4-2. It's W*nk. Only deluded dickhead England fans think that this is a good setup. No top side ever uses this system with any sustained joy because the midfield gets cut to ribbons. To turn up to Man City and play 4-4-2, with their steroided players knocking the f*ck out of us all over the park, is unforgivably stupid. (If Hodgson "understands" the Premiership, f*ck it - ignorance is definitely bliss.)

3. Tactics. Where were they? What did we do differently following each of the goals? Why wasn't Hodgson crucified for not making any changes before the 70 minute mark? Pachecho is a God, isn't he? Surely he should have come on instead of Babel? What was he thinking of, putting Aurelio - a defender - on for Jovanovic - an attacker? How can this be? He's clueless, right?

Any decent manager would have quickly realised that the system needed changing after 30 minutes. Nothing we did worked and the midfield was overrun throughout the match. We should have dropped back to 4-2-3-1 with Poulsen playing DM alongside Lucas, and Gerrard, Kuyt and Jovanovic supporting Torres.

4. Man management.

A fat lot of good that little golden nugget of horse sh*t has brought us so far.

Lando_Griffin wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Roy or no Roy this team needed a major overhaul this summer and we haven't had that.

No, no: Didn't you hear? Certain factions on here believe we've got a team capable of challenging for the title. The only reason we failed to do this last season was because of Rafa.

Well then. Let's see if these "experts" are correct...

The old philosophy of pass & move is non - existence for our squad. No one was coming short for the ball or playing triangles in the middle of the park

Currently getting my Level 2 coaching and getting UEFA B badges next year. Going to apply the academy job haha