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Postby kazza » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:13 pm

Baros left as he said he did not want to play for us and the CL final in Istanbul was his last game. Cisse never gelled with the team and had two horrific leg breaks plus was never a team player. Bellamy hit Risse with a golf club  :laugh:  and with all his moaning to the ref did us no favours and Crouch we should have kept but he wanted to leave. Kuyt brings more to the team than these mentioned strikers (I did like Crouch though).
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:14 pm

Madmax wrote:When we were lacking firepower up front and keane was not even scoring prior to the jan window i think we still should have considering getting a striker.  It was clear we lack depth up front so it should have been a priority in the window wether we were going to keep keane or not... At that time i think we were interested in heskey but wasnt an offical..

Management just sat throughout the whole month tryin to offload keane.. FFS atleast consider a striker on loan or something..

I think someone posted earlier mate that rafa was trying to get a guy from brazil but there was a problem with him being owned by the club and by a media company so was hard to get everything done by the required time limit . seems the guy is a hot striker in brazil - think it was omsehint like 50 goals in 60 dd games and was the next big thing to come out of brazil . hopefully the deal will still be around in the summer - the price was around 10 mil or something - think heis name was Kerrison .
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Postby bigmick » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:14 pm

Madmax wrote:When we were lacking firepower up front and keane was not even scoring prior to the jan window i think we still should have considering getting a striker.  It was clear we lack depth up front so it should have been a priority in the window wether we were going to keep keane or not... At that time i think we were interested in heskey but wasnt an offical..

Management just sat throughout the whole month tryin to offload keane.. FFS atleast consider a striker on loan or something..

Totally agree with that. We needed a striker EVEN WITH KEANE. For us to start with David N'gog as our lone striker in a vital match like we did against Pompey though is frightening. 2/3 of the way through a five year plan, and that's where we're at. No injuries either (bit of "tiredness" only). How many other Premiership teams would David N'Gog get a start for as a lone striker in a must win match?
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:15 pm

kazza wrote:Baros left as he said he did not want to play for us and the CL final in Istanbul was his last game. Cisse never gelled with the team and had two horrific leg breaks plus was never a team player. Bellamy hit Risse with a golf club  :laugh:  and with all his moaning to the ref did us no favours and Crouch we should have kept but he wanted to leave. Kuyt brings more to the team than these mentioned strikers (I did like Crouch though).

yeah would happily have crouch back at the club and think even rafa would tbh - he didnt want him to go in the first place but the lad wanted regular footy . shame really .
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Postby Madmax » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:16 pm

kazza wrote:Baros left as he said he did not want to play for us and the CL final in Istanbul was his last game. Cisse never gelled with the team and had two horrific leg breaks plus was never a team player. Bellamy hit Risse with a golf club  :laugh:  and with all his moaning to the ref did us no favours and Crouch we should have kept but he wanted to leave. Kuyt brings more to the team than these mentioned strikers (I did like Crouch though).

Even though we would want more from kuyt atleast he has stuck with us and doesnt moan about playing out of position..
There are many striker of decent talent that i feel are better than kuyt but at this moment in time considering our lack of depth upfront im glad we have him!
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:16 pm

bigmick wrote:Any sane person (or dare I say it anyone who has "a clue") would know that as of now, we could really do with one of Milan Baros, Djibril Cisse, Robbie Keane, Craig Bellamy or Peter Crouch as they are ALL better strikers than ANY of our stand ins for Torres.

Add Pongolle and Luis garcia to your list Mick.

I hope in the summer we bring in atleast two attacking players or a play maker someone with a bit of trickery with that spark that makes you excited.
We only have Gerrard & Torres that have you on the edge of your seat. or who can change a game its not enough.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:19 pm

Madmax wrote:
kazza wrote:Baros left as he said he did not want to play for us and the CL final in Istanbul was his last game. Cisse never gelled with the team and had two horrific leg breaks plus was never a team player. Bellamy hit Risse with a golf club  :laugh:  and with all his moaning to the ref did us no favours and Crouch we should have kept but he wanted to leave. Kuyt brings more to the team than these mentioned strikers (I did like Crouch though).

Even though we would want more from kuyt atleast he has stuck with us and doesnt moan about playing out of position..
There are many striker of decent talent that i feel are better than kuyt but at this moment in time considering our lack of depth upfront im glad we have him!

after the way he played against pompey im glad we have him as well .
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Postby Madmax » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:20 pm

bigmick wrote:
Madmax wrote:When we were lacking firepower up front and keane was not even scoring prior to the jan window i think we still should have considering getting a striker.  It was clear we lack depth up front so it should have been a priority in the window wether we were going to keep keane or not... At that time i think we were interested in heskey but wasnt an offical..

Management just sat throughout the whole month tryin to offload keane.. FFS atleast consider a striker on loan or something..

Totally agree with that. We needed a striker EVEN WITH KEANE. For us to start with David N'gog as our lone striker in a vital match like we did against Pompey though is frightening. 2/3 of the way through a five year plan, and that's where we're at. No injuries either (bit of "tiredness" only). How many other Premiership teams would David N'Gog get a start for as a lone striker in a must win match?

completely baffles me mick honestly.. I hope though ngog on his own upfront is not repeated..
The only plus for our striking credentials under rafa has been torres.. The others have been errors that didnt work on a long term basis..
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:21 pm

Ciggy wrote:
bigmick wrote:Any sane person (or dare I say it anyone who has "a clue") would know that as of now, we could really do with one of Milan Baros, Djibril Cisse, Robbie Keane, Craig Bellamy or Peter Crouch as they are ALL better strikers than ANY of our stand ins for Torres.

Add Pongolle and Luis garcia to your list Mick.

I hope in the summer we bring in atleast two attacking players or a play maker someone with a bit of trickery with that spark that makes you excited.
We only have Gerrard & Torres that have you on the edge of your seat. or who can change a game its not enough.

a playmaker would be perfect - someone like little luis but more consistent and less fustrating
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Postby bigmick » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:21 pm

Ciggy wrote:
bigmick wrote:Any sane person (or dare I say it anyone who has "a clue") would know that as of now, we could really do with one of Milan Baros, Djibril Cisse, Robbie Keane, Craig Bellamy or Peter Crouch as they are ALL better strikers than ANY of our stand ins for Torres.

Add Pongolle and Luis garcia to your list Mick.

I hope in the summer we bring in atleast two attacking players or a play maker someone with a bit of trickery with that spark that makes you excited.
We only have Gerrard & Torres that have you on the edge of your seat. or who can change a game its not enough.

Feck me Lynds how could I forget about little Luis? Fecking loved him as a player. Pongolle was twice the player N'Gog is as well before he left, and is probably four times the player now by all accounts.

I should say that I don't hate N'Gog by any means, but he is some distance short of being good enough to lead the line for a top of the table Premiership team on his own. As striker number 4 of 4, possibly at a stretch, but nowhere near good enough for what we're asking him to do at the moment.
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Postby Madmax » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:23 pm

GYBS wrote:
Madmax wrote:When we were lacking firepower up front and keane was not even scoring prior to the jan window i think we still should have considering getting a striker.  It was clear we lack depth up front so it should have been a priority in the window wether we were going to keep keane or not... At that time i think we were interested in heskey but wasnt an offical..

Management just sat throughout the whole month tryin to offload keane.. FFS atleast consider a striker on loan or something..

I think someone posted earlier mate that rafa was trying to get a guy from brazil but there was a problem with him being owned by the club and by a media company so was hard to get everything done by the required time limit . seems the guy is a hot striker in brazil - think it was omsehint like 50 goals in 60 dd games and was the next big thing to come out of brazil . hopefully the deal will still be around in the summer - the price was around 10 mil or something - think heis name was Kerrison .

GYBs whats the guys full name, going to google him..
50 goals in 60 games!!!!!!!!!!! was that for a sunday league??  :laugh:
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:24 pm

bigmick wrote:Feck me Lynds how could I forget about little Luis? Fecking loved him as a player. .

Rafa has just tried to bring him back and to get Quaresma but his agent wanted to much money.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:25 pm

Madmax wrote:
GYBS wrote:
Madmax wrote:When we were lacking firepower up front and keane was not even scoring prior to the jan window i think we still should have considering getting a striker.  It was clear we lack depth up front so it should have been a priority in the window wether we were going to keep keane or not... At that time i think we were interested in heskey but wasnt an offical..

Management just sat throughout the whole month tryin to offload keane.. FFS atleast consider a striker on loan or something..

I think someone posted earlier mate that rafa was trying to get a guy from brazil but there was a problem with him being owned by the club and by a media company so was hard to get everything done by the required time limit . seems the guy is a hot striker in brazil - think it was omsehint like 50 goals in 60 dd games and was the next big thing to come out of brazil . hopefully the deal will still be around in the summer - the price was around 10 mil or something - think heis name was Kerrison .

GYBs whats the guys full name, going to google him..
50 goals in 60 games!!!!!!!!!!! was that for a sunday league??  :laugh:

No idea what his first name is the person who posted is said his name was kerrison or something .
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Postby bigmick » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:27 pm

GYBS wrote:think it was omsehint like 50 goals in 60 dd games and was the next big thing to come out of brazil .

That's the next big thing to come out of Brazil after Lucas right? I can't wait.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:29 pm

who knows mick - just relaying what has been said by another poster - that is somescoring record thou but who knows if its true or how he will work out .
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