Liverpool FC Forum

[Kenny Kan]

Finally we can say that we have a poacher.

After the 1 game?

[Ben Patrick]

Perhaps the quality of the goals count?

For example and let's be honest, Suarez did 99% of the work yesterday for the first one. Kuyt just blasted it in from 1/2 a yard when it fell to his feet.

But, I spose there's a lot to be said for being in the right place at the right time, for the rebound.

no they dont.
they still count for 1 goal.
He was in the right place at the right time, in a massive game, Doesnt get better than that.

[killerp]

I wonder what the odds were paying for Kuyt to score a hatrick against Man U?   If you got that right you would be setup for life $$

[Octsky]

Kyut will be a legend, hardworker, great team mate, can play forward and wing, rarely injured baring the acrobatic performance in the dutch camp.
what more can we ask?

[tonyeh]

Perhaps the quality of the goals count?

For example and let's be honest, Suarez did 99% of the work yesterday for the first one. Kuyt just blasted it in from 1/2 a yard when it fell to his feet.

But, I spose there's a lot to be said for being in the right place at the right time, for the rebound.

no they dont.
they still count for 1 goal.
He was in the right place at the right time, in a massive game, Doesnt get better than that.

Hmmm...I can't agree.

If Suarez had scored after his brilliant run for the first goal, that would have been a goal that would have stuck in memory for a long, long time. Something few players could have done.

But, anyone could have scored the goal Kuyt did after Luis did all the work.

In the end a goal is a goal, sure. But Kuyt, in a million years, could never have done what Luis did. I actually felt a little sorry for Suarez.

[maypaxvobiscum]

i get what you're saying Tonyeh. i initially felt Kuyt should not have tapped the ball in as in was going in anyway and it would have been a superb goal by Suarez but i'm guessing he just wanted to make sure that no defender came along and cleared it off the line. and also, it's a team game so i've no complains about the manner Kuyt scored his goals. to put things in perspective, there's no point having a player scoring 3 goals, all of which included dribbling past 4 or 5 opponents when the team loses 4-3. the most important thing is that we won, and i'm just glad we won with such style.

[only me]

Kyut will be a legend, hardworker, great team mate, can play forward and wing, rarely injured baring the acrobatic performance in the dutch camp.
what more can we ask?

We can ask playing Manuer everyday i guess 

But as we all know our memory span is as long as the last game ,let's not forget the horrible season he is having. A lot of posters ,me included ,thought and still think he should be given a rest for a while. I guess now this is mission impossible but time will tell. I'm afraid his Latest heroics are by far not representing his standard form. (which is below avarage). Let's not forget he usually doesn't play as a striker and i doubt we want to keep him as a winger or playing before carrol.

[Redman in wales]

But, anyone could have scored the goal Kuyt did after Luis did all the work.

no. you see this is why kuyt gets unfairly criticised for scoring tap ins.  His was there. that is the important element. If we were playing with N'gog upfront and not kuyt, N'gog may have been waiting for a pull back 10 yards from goal. Consequently we wouldn't have scored from Suarez's brilliant run.

For kuyts third, Ngog may not have followd up cechs slip as fast as dirky boy, so we wouldn't have scored.

Yes they were all tap ins, but it takes a good striker to be at the right place at the right time.

[Johnny Boy]

He needs to be used up front, he still has that strikers instinct, his reaction for the 3rd goal proved that.
I don't care if he scores all his goals from a yard out, they still count.

If we can add to the squad with 2 wide players for next season, and also utilise Johnson or Kelly in a right wing back role he won't need to play out on the right again.

With Carroll, Saurez and Kuyt we have competition for places up front, you could also I suppose add Ngog and Pacheco.

[Ben Patrick]

Perhaps the quality of the goals count?

For example and let's be honest, Suarez did 99% of the work yesterday for the first one. Kuyt just blasted it in from 1/2 a yard when it fell to his feet.

But, I spose there's a lot to be said for being in the right place at the right time, for the rebound.

no they dont.
they still count for 1 goal.
He was in the right place at the right time, in a massive game, Doesnt get better than that.

Hmmm...I can't agree.

If Suarez had scored after his brilliant run for the first goal, that would have been a goal that would have stuck in memory for a long, long time. Something few players could have done.

But, anyone could have scored the goal Kuyt did after Luis did all the work.

In the end a goal is a goal, sure. But Kuyt, in a million years, could never have done what Luis did. I actually felt a little sorry for Suarez.

It probably wouldnt have been given to Suarez anyway as it deflects of a defender to send it heading towards goal. Suraez's touch was going across goal.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Perhaps the quality of the goals count?

For example and let's be honest, Suarez did 99% of the work yesterday for the first one. Kuyt just blasted it in from 1/2 a yard when it fell to his feet.

But, I spose there's a lot to be said for being in the right place at the right time, for the rebound.

no they dont.
they still count for 1 goal.
He was in the right place at the right time, in a massive game, Doesnt get better than that.

Hmmm...I can't agree.

If Suarez had scored after his brilliant run for the first goal, that would have been a goal that would have stuck in memory for a long, long time. Something few players could have done.

But, anyone could have scored the goal Kuyt did after Luis did all the work.

In the end a goal is a goal, sure. But Kuyt, in a million years, could never have done what Luis did. I actually felt a little sorry for Suarez.

It probably wouldnt have been given to Suarez anyway as it deflects of a defender to send it heading towards goal. Suraez's touch was going across goal.

It's really hard to tell. FIFA rules state that if the shot is on target and then it takes a deflection and goes in, then it is awarded to the shooter. In Suarez's case the deflection happens so early from the time the ball leaves Suarez's feet you cannot make a judgement, with certainty, that without a deflection the ball would not of gone in (so many factors like spin, swerve, etc).

Regardless, Kuyt's hattrick will be the easiest he will ever score. In fact the easiest any striker could score. They were all tap in's.

[tonyeh]

But, anyone could have scored the goal Kuyt did after Luis did all the work.

no. you see this is why kuyt gets unfairly criticised for scoring tap ins.  His was there. that is the important element. If we were playing with N'gog upfront and not kuyt, N'gog may have been waiting for a pull back 10 yards from goal. Consequently we wouldn't have scored from Suarez's brilliant run.

For kuyts third, Ngog may not have followd up cechs slip as fast as dirky boy, so we wouldn't have scored.

Yes they were all tap ins, but it takes a good striker to be at the right place at the right time.

"Dirky Boy" followed up because his momentum carried him there. There was no footballing genius going on.

Just physics.

[Redman in wales]

But, anyone could have scored the goal Kuyt did after Luis did all the work.

no. you see this is why kuyt gets unfairly criticised for scoring tap ins.  His was there. that is the important element. If we were playing with N'gog upfront and not kuyt, N'gog may have been waiting for a pull back 10 yards from goal. Consequently we wouldn't have scored from Suarez's brilliant run.

For kuyts third, Ngog may not have followd up cechs slip as fast as dirky boy, so we wouldn't have scored.

Yes they were all tap ins, but it takes a good striker to be at the right place at the right time.

"Dirky Boy" followed up because his momentum carried him there. There was no footballing genius going on.

Just physics.

doesn't matter how you want to phrase it, momentum, running, walking, following up, goal hanging. He did it, he was in the right place at the right time and scored three goals. If Kuyt hadn't started upfront, David Ngog may not have been in the right places at the right times and we may not have beaten utd

[Greavesie]

If Suarez keeps putting them on a plate for Dirk to keep scoring like that, I won't be complaining at all

[tonyeh]

If Suarez keeps putting them on a plate for Dirk to keep scoring like that, I won't be complaining at all

Neither will anyone else. But, frankly I'd rather see Luis being rewarded for all his hard work than simply being the setup boy for somebody else's tap in.