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[Toffeehater]

I'm not one generally for playing people "out of position" but Agger wouldn't need to be fantastic to give either of our first choice full backs a run for their money. From memory isn't he left sided (could be wrong) in which case he'd be up against Dossena. He'd certainly compare favourably as a footballer to either full-back, I would think he'd have the pace, he would in all probability be better in the air and would probably measure up in one on ones with wingers. Where they always get found out though is the age old connundrum of when to push out and when to tuck in. It's this positional nouse that you need to be a good full-back.

Finnan for example was pretty average in every way but always got himself into the right areas. If you can do that you're three quarters of the way there but it isn't easy, I had a go at left-back myself and couldn't get the hang of it really.

It's not though a ridiculous suggestion by any means IMHO, although any attempts to squeeze Agger into the line up ahead of specialists would probably be based upon a memory of his form of twelve months ago rather than anything he's shown since he came back from his lengthly lay off.

mmm... i suppose you didnt get the chance to watch the crewe game.. he was solid defensively to say the least but what really stood out yet again was his ability on the ball.. his going forward is top class for a centerback and he often pushes forward from the left side which made me think hed be a great option down the left... he has a great shot on him and he always seems to open up spaces for other players when he goes forward... he doesnt bomb forward like dossena does ... but then again is that a bad thing ? his crossing is better than dossenas im sure and his long passes and creativity on the ball are way better than dossenas too.. ur right about the positiong part.. thats my main criticism of agger playing center back and might be the only reason he wouldnt make that good a leftback..
centerback: hes simply not commanding enough.. even when he had his 'good spell' last year i always thought his positiong wasnt that great and he'd never make a great centerback unless he improves on that, his aerial ability isnt all that good either !

Just answered your own post , it was against crewe . Take nothing away from agger , he's a top class defender , just not the same one this season so far

[aCe']

I'm not one generally for playing people "out of position" but Agger wouldn't need to be fantastic to give either of our first choice full backs a run for their money. From memory isn't he left sided (could be wrong) in which case he'd be up against Dossena. He'd certainly compare favourably as a footballer to either full-back, I would think he'd have the pace, he would in all probability be better in the air and would probably measure up in one on ones with wingers. Where they always get found out though is the age old connundrum of when to push out and when to tuck in. It's this positional nouse that you need to be a good full-back.

Finnan for example was pretty average in every way but always got himself into the right areas. If you can do that you're three quarters of the way there but it isn't easy, I had a go at left-back myself and couldn't get the hang of it really.

It's not though a ridiculous suggestion by any means IMHO, although any attempts to squeeze Agger into the line up ahead of specialists would probably be based upon a memory of his form of twelve months ago rather than anything he's shown since he came back from his lengthly lay off.

mmm... i suppose you didnt get the chance to watch the crewe game.. he was solid defensively to say the least but what really stood out yet again was his ability on the ball.. his going forward is top class for a centerback and he often pushes forward from the left side which made me think hed be a great option down the left... he has a great shot on him and he always seems to open up spaces for other players when he goes forward... he doesnt bomb forward like dossena does ... but then again is that a bad thing ? his crossing is better than dossenas im sure and his long passes and creativity on the ball are way better than dossenas too.. ur right about the positiong part.. thats my main criticism of agger playing center back and might be the only reason he wouldnt make that good a leftback..
centerback: hes simply not commanding enough.. even when he had his 'good spell' last year i always thought his positiong wasnt that great and he'd never make a great centerback unless he improves on that, his aerial ability isnt all that good either !

Just answered your own post , it was against crewe . Take nothing away from agger , he's a top class defender , just not the same one this season so far

i dont see where ur going with this ?!

i dont care if it was crewe or manure ... im taking about his touch on the ball.. his passing ability and his ability to open up spaces for all players and particularly picking out wide players... that has nothing to do with the opposition... and btw he played centerback against crewe so again... where are u going with this ?

[Toffeehater]

Crewe are not premier league material , if he was playing against a team in the prem , id don't think he would have had that much time on the ball  , he would have been closed down , would not have time to pick his passes . Took his goal well which is surprising as i've never seen him line up for a freekick . He needs games against teams in the prem to get back that experience  , maybe less capable ones who won't provide that much of a threat . The only way i can see agger displacing skrtel from the starting line up is skrtel up in the next few games , or rafa plays agger at left back . Either way its nice to have these problem where we're deciding who and where should our 3 top defenders should play .

[Bad Bob]

Crewe are not premier league material , if he was playing against a team in the prem , id don't think he would have had that much time on the ball  , he would have been closed down , would not have time to pick his passes . Took his goal well which is surprising as i've never seen him line up for a freekick . He needs games against teams in the prem to get back that experience  , maybe less capable ones who won't provide that much of a threat . The only way i can see agger displacing skrtel from the starting line up is skrtel up in the next few games , or rafa plays agger at left back . Either way its nice to have these problem where we're deciding who and where should our 3 top defenders should play .

I think he is in the mix when it comes to free kicks, actually.  That semi-final CL win over Chelsea at Anfield in 2007 was on the back of his goal off of a free kick.  Obviously it was a training ground play where Gerrard rolled it to an unmarked Agger along the deck and he buried that low drive in the bottom corner of the net.

Personally, I think Aurelio is our best specialist LB but I wouldn't object to trying Agger out there ahead of Dossena just to see.

[aCe']

Crewe are not premier league material , if he was playing against a team in the prem , id don't think he would have had that much time on the ball  , he would have been closed down , would not have time to pick his passes . Took his goal well which is surprising as i've never seen him line up for a freekick . He needs games against teams in the prem to get back that experience  , maybe less capable ones who won't provide that much of a threat . The only way i can see agger displacing skrtel from the starting line up is skrtel up in the next few games , or rafa plays agger at left back . Either way its nice to have these problem where we're deciding who and where should our 3 top defenders should play .

did u even read my post ?!
i was talking about playing him leftback not him replacing skrtel in our lineup 

[Toffeehater]

I'm not sure he can play left back , he does not have the skills that dossena has but he cna put in a good cross and has a sweet left leg . Worth a try though

[Fo Dne]

I think both you and mick have made some very good points . Dan Agger is a good player but after his injury he has not looked as solid compared to skrtel who's been an absolute rock at the back . I would like to see Agger given a go at the left back position , dossena has been fairly average so far so if maybe another 3 to 5 games more he does not start picking up the pace , i'd think rafa has wasted money and should have kept JAR .

Yes i agree dosser As I like to call him hasn't lived up to his hype in Italy but then agian which player does over there.

But it easy to look back now and say we should have keep JAR but I think rafa did right thing just it didn't work out well for him (so far) , but who knows he might come good and if he don't we might see him leave as early as Jan(its always an option , more so if we have new owners).

I liked JAR but he did lack pass and couldn't take on players which I feel rafa needs in his system.

Dosser seems like he can take people on but can't defend to save his life (well ok a bit harsh but he really isn't that good).

I think he could be a good left midfielder but wasn't that JARs problem he was a lefty defender/midfielder.

I personaly still feel we need a real left back not a hybred one that specs in attacking like a full back does to have pace , good crossing , able to defend and take players on now and agian.

I feel Dosser don't have that so who could we get if we had the money in Jan . 

[aCe']

I'm not sure he can play left back , he does not have the skills that dossena has but he cna put in a good cross and has a sweet left leg . Worth a try though

dossena has skills ?! hahahaha

[ruskiy playmaker]

I'm not sure he can play left back , he does not have the skills that dossena has but he cna put in a good cross and has a sweet left leg . Worth a try though

dossena has skills ?! hahahaha

Go watch his youtube video.

[Fo Dne]

I'm not sure he can play left back , he does not have the skills that dossena has but he cna put in a good cross and has a sweet left leg . Worth a try though

dossena has skills ?! hahahaha

Go watch his youtube video.

LMFBHFAO!!!

[aCe']

I'm not sure he can play left back , he does not have the skills that dossena has but he cna put in a good cross and has a sweet left leg . Worth a try though

dossena has skills ?! hahahaha

Go watch his youtube video.

are you for real ?!



go watch kuyt's youtube videos 

[JoeTerp]

I think that the carling cup tie against Spurs or the 4th champions league game (as long as we are bossing the group) would be perfect times to experiment with 3 at the back with Agger playing the left of centre role. You could still do it while giving players a rest:
                                           Cavalieri
      Kelly/San Jose                  Hyypia                   Agger
                           Lucas                         Plessis
Pennant                                                                           Aurelio
                                         Pacheco
                          Babel                            N'Gog

You could even just try it out for a half hour or so because the same group of XI could play:

                           Cavalieri   
Kelly           Hyypia           Agger            Aurelio
Pennant        Lucas            Plessis             Babel
                 Pacheco           N'Gog

[Toffeehater]

I'm not sure he can play left back , he does not have the skills that dossena has but he cna put in a good cross and has a sweet left leg . Worth a try though

dossena has skills ?! hahahaha

Check out some of his earlier games mate . He showed some nice dribblinb ability and footwork , maybe not so much yesterday .  He may not be that great at defending but he has good ability going forward and can pick out his man , like he dis yesterday to pick out torres for the goal that should have given him his hattrick

[Jimmy the Weasel]

I wish Agger was playing more, I've got him in my FF team... Skrtel is the same price, but I know as soon as I swap them Agger will become a regular starter, that's how it works...

[Fo Dne]

I wish Agger was playing more, I've got him in my FF team... Skrtel is the same price, but I know as soon as I swap them Agger will become a regular starter, that's how it works...

Don't even go there lad...

Every week with mine Its always seem to drop a player then he has a blinder or gets a goal and assist. Its becoming a bit of a rule at the min, its almost like they are watching me...

"Ahh yes, Stu's dropped me this week" I'll go and smack one in the top corner from 40 yards, have a blinder get two assists and play like a man possessed....

"Ahh he's put me back in, lets go and score an oggy and have a mare"...