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zarababe wrote:give over lakesy - wi8th his budget it's bound to be like that - do we not have one of the best spines?

so despite the dross - we need to improve in only 2 or 3 positions to be in the running ?

so what is al the TOSH  for .. lets have a dig cos everyone else is

budget? give over, if he had not spent so much on players or on young kids that will never make it he could have got some on the best players, the truth being that Rafa finds it hard to get the players he is looking for and its not all down to money, Rafa has a rep with players and its not always good, just have a look at the feedback he gets from ex players....i mean the good ex players.

i dont care much for this "oh he had to sell so he could buy"
the bloke spent 20mil on a player that was unfit when he could have got another player for that money.

Ciggy wrote:Quite a few sh!t players but no worst than what Houllier bought, also some excellent signings I would say Rafa has bought better players than Ged for 75 million.

Ciggy wrote:

lakes10 wrote:hell Ciggy, he has signed 59 players, law of averages say he will signed a few good players out of that lot.

lets not think about some of the that he has signed and stuck with week in and week out.(Fernando Morientes)

You said spot on about the 300 million euro you know quite well rafa hasnt spent that amount, Morientes was not a sh!t player atall but he just couldnt cut it in the prem.

Talk about facts lakes and not just blame Rafa for absoluty every single thing, A lot of players bought where also very young out of them 59 players from under 15's to the reserves.

Houllier brought some absolute beauts aswell Traore, Diomede, spit the dog, Vignal, to name but a few he spent far more than Rafa on dogsh!t yet did never recieve the abuse that Rafa gets.

bigmick wrote:I think it's about time we did this one again. Since Rafa has been in charge he has outaspent Man Utd and Arsenal. It's a fact.

lakes10 wrote:no you are right......he is wrong Rafa has spent £220mil

lakes10 wrote:sorry cig you dont understand, Rfa has spent club assets, when a player comes to the club the price they come for is an asset, you dont use Net spend, you use total spent.
in this case Rafa has spent £220mil for the team we have today.


put it this way, if you sold something on ebay and you got £80 for it but then with that money to got something for £90 and it was total you dont say "oh well it only cost £10" no you say " hell i have wasted "90"

lakes10 wrote:

zarababe wrote:They're doing it cos they're counting using the 'anti rafa' calculator

And lakesy Rafa's bad rep with players - are you having a spooky moment lar ... Torres, Masch, Reina, Gerrard to name a 'selection' of our spine have all improved awesomely under his management and credit him with their success

And yeaR ON YEAR WHAT HAS HIS REAL-TIME BUDGET BEEN ?

so come on what prices D Villa - can we afford him.. ? Ciould we have afforded him 2 seasons ago ? So budget matters

2007/08 Rafa spent 70 mil


from RAWK   (THE COMMENTS ARE NOT BY ME)
£5m - Lucas Leiva: Brazilian player of the year when signed. Could still go either way but a lot to prove.
Undisclosed - Krisztian Nemeth: Promising youngster currently out on loan in Athens.
£270,000 - Mikel San Jose Dominguez: Youngester plays in the reserves.
£1.8m - Sebastian Leto: Left winger signing but refused a work permit. Sold for £3m.
£20.2m - Fernando Torres: Bargain of the century
Free - Andriy Voronin: Free transfer to strengthen the squad. Plays well in Germany, garbage over here.
£5m - Yossi Benayoun: Took a while to settle but now a key player. Superb signing and an absolute bargain.
£11.5m - Ryan Babel: Highly rated dutch international. Absolute waste of space. Bad signing on reflection, but nobody knew how he'd turn out. Still got potential but he can't be arsed.
Undisclosed - Charles Itandje: Back up keeper signed for peanuts. Now released.
£1.3m - Emiliano Insua: Youngster who is now a full Argentinian international and massive potential. Bargain.
£6.5m - Martin Skrtel: Been off form this season so far, but brilliant last year and a good signing for the money.
£18.6m - Javier Mascherano: Completion of loan deal

Total bought: £70.7m

Cool so what are we complaining ABOUT HERE:

5m - Lucas Leiva: Brazilian player of the year when signed. Could still go either way but a lot to prove. - not an over payment then
Undisclosed - Krisztian Nemeth: Promising youngster currently out on loan in Athens.
£270,000 - Mikel San Jose Dominguez: Youngester plays in the reserves.
£1.8m - Sebastian Leto: Left winger signing but refused a work permit. Sold for £3m. - profit
£20.2m - Fernando Torres: Bargain of the century - but people still frowned at the price tag and the owners showed there intention early on - even though they borrowed the money, so tha banks could 're-possess' him
Free - Andriy Voronin: Free transfer to strengthen the squad. Plays well in Germany, garbage over here.
£5m - Yossi Benayoun: Took a while to settle but now a key player. Superb signing and an absolute bargain. - Yep
£11.5m - Ryan Babel: Highly rated dutch international. Absolute waste of space. Bad signing on reflection, but nobody knew how he'd turn out. Still got potential but he can't be arsed. - so took a chance and not woked out
Undisclosed - Charles Itandje: Back up keeper signed for peanuts. Now released.
£1.3m - Emiliano Insua: Youngster who is now a full Argentinian international and massive potential. Bargain. so good signining
£6.5m - Martin Skrtel: Been off form this season so far, but brilliant last year and a good signing for the money. so good signining

£18.6m - Javier Mascherano: Completion of loan deal - Great signing 'No'

So here we are - some good some bad but tmostly good and you can't argue with all of those ay.

But What price D Villa Lakesy - can we buy him?

zarababe wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

zarababe wrote:They're doing it cos they're counting using the 'anti rafa' calculator

And lakesy Rafa's bad rep with players - are you having a spooky moment lar ... Torres, Masch, Reina, Gerrard to name a 'selection' of our spine have all improved awesomely under his management and credit him with their success

And yeaR ON YEAR WHAT HAS HIS REAL-TIME BUDGET BEEN ?

so come on what prices D Villa - can we afford him.. ? Ciould we have afforded him 2 seasons ago ? So budget matters

2007/08 Rafa spent 70 mil


from RAWK   (THE COMMENTS ARE NOT BY ME)
£5m - Lucas Leiva: Brazilian player of the year when signed. Could still go either way but a lot to prove.
Undisclosed - Krisztian Nemeth: Promising youngster currently out on loan in Athens.
£270,000 - Mikel San Jose Dominguez: Youngester plays in the reserves.
£1.8m - Sebastian Leto: Left winger signing but refused a work permit. Sold for £3m.
£20.2m - Fernando Torres: Bargain of the century
Free - Andriy Voronin: Free transfer to strengthen the squad. Plays well in Germany, garbage over here.
£5m - Yossi Benayoun: Took a while to settle but now a key player. Superb signing and an absolute bargain.
£11.5m - Ryan Babel: Highly rated dutch international. Absolute waste of space. Bad signing on reflection, but nobody knew how he'd turn out. Still got potential but he can't be arsed.
Undisclosed - Charles Itandje: Back up keeper signed for peanuts. Now released.
£1.3m - Emiliano Insua: Youngster who is now a full Argentinian international and massive potential. Bargain.
£6.5m - Martin Skrtel: Been off form this season so far, but brilliant last year and a good signing for the money.
£18.6m - Javier Mascherano: Completion of loan deal

Total bought: £70.7m

Cool so what are we complaining ABOUT HERE:

5m - Lucas Leiva: Brazilian player of the year when signed. Could still go either way but a lot to prove. - not an over payment then
Undisclosed - Krisztian Nemeth: Promising youngster currently out on loan in Athens.
£270,000 - Mikel San Jose Dominguez: Youngester plays in the reserves.
£1.8m - Sebastian Leto: Left winger signing but refused a work permit. Sold for £3m. - profit
£20.2m - Fernando Torres: Bargain of the century - but people still frowned at the price tag and the owners showed there intention early on - even though they borrowed the money, so tha banks could 're-possess' him
Free - Andriy Voronin: Free transfer to strengthen the squad. Plays well in Germany, garbage over here.
£5m - Yossi Benayoun: Took a while to settle but now a key player. Superb signing and an absolute bargain. - Yep
£11.5m - Ryan Babel: Highly rated dutch international. Absolute waste of space. Bad signing on reflection, but nobody knew how he'd turn out. Still got potential but he can't be arsed. - so took a chance and not woked out
Undisclosed - Charles Itandje: Back up keeper signed for peanuts. Now released.
£1.3m - Emiliano Insua: Youngster who is now a full Argentinian international and massive potential. Bargain. so good signining
£6.5m - Martin Skrtel: Been off form this season so far, but brilliant last year and a good signing for the money. so good signining

£18.6m - Javier Mascherano: Completion of loan deal - Great signing 'No'

So here we are - some good some bad but tmostly good and you can't argue with all of those ay.

But What price D Villa Lakesy - can we buy him?