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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:01 am

andy_g wrote:Rafael Benítez will stay, says prospective new Liverpool owner

• 'We are at a crucial stage, deal could be finalised in June'
• Huang consortium faces competitor from Middle East

Rafael Benitez will be encouraged to stay at Liverpool if Kenneth Huang's consortium makes a successful bid for the club, according to reports.


The man reportedly leading a consortium of investors attempting to buy Liverpool football club says he wants Rafael Benítez to retain his job as the club's manager if the bid is successful.

Kenneth Huang, a former Wall Street broker, is at the head of a group who want to buy the club for around £500m from current owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks, according to a report today. He claims he has been given access to Liverpool's accounts and expects to finalise a deal within two months despite competition from a rival bid from an unnamed individual or consortium from the Middle East. He has also contacted Benítez to encourage the Spaniard to stay at Anfield and turn down advances from Juventus.

"Negotiations have taken place over the last few months and we are at a crucial stage," Huang said, according to The Mirror. "I really hope it turns out to be a successful bid. Right now my audit team is examining the books and my legal team is in close contact with theirs. We have a fierce competitor in the Middle East, but it could be finalised in June."

"I was first approached (to buy Liverpool) in 2008 when I was in Singapore attending a Formula One grand prix, but the asking price was $1bn (£650m). It was totally unreasonable so I turned it down. The asking price has dropped significantly and we are talking again. I want Liverpool to win the Champions League and Premier League and I think Benítez is a very good coach."


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Postby shawnk » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:09 am

Fook the stadium. Strengthen the squad and win the Premier League first. If the team is playing :censored: and playing defensively (and still losing), the stadium would have plenty of empty seats anyway. Beside, I dont think the club's main source of income is coming from fans going to the stadium? Play and win well, tons of sponsorship will come.

Back to the topic. I'm afraid it will be a risk for any new owners to give Rafa the money to buy players. Yes, we have plenty of good ones bought by Rafa but then how many bad/wasted ones are there already? He has wasted enough money already, the new owners should ask G&H.
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Postby Owzat » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:36 am

He'll reach 350 games in charge by the end of this season, needs just three more and has at least that many to play. Next goal conceded will be the 300th conceded under Rafa, unless we strike goal'd at Hull, and score a few in other games, we won't get the 17 needed to reach 600 under him
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Postby kazza » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:48 am

lakes10 wrote:
laza wrote:
Greavesie wrote:spot on? - Agger, Riera (IMO), Aurelio (injuries aside), Arbeloa for £1.5m (loads have been saying they'd prefer him over Jonno), Masch. Its not the players IMO its how quickly he wheels and deals. Crouch, Bellamy, Keane and the like may well have been good here but we'll never know now

So it is a bit b0llocks in all fairness

Agreed and I reckon Yossi and Garcia for what we paid for them  could be thrown into that list as well

You can not put players in that list that he has sold, and heres why.

its all about how he buys and sells players, he has sold too many good players for me.
yes he did buy them but he sold them whn he should not have so its sort of a +1 for buying them and a -1 for selling them so its put that buy back to 0.

yes i will agree that there 3 other players that could just make the list.

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Postby Ciggy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:09 am

lakes10 wrote:
zarababe wrote:
s@int wrote:John Toshack has hit out at Rafael Benitez for his wastefulness in the transfer market during his time at Liverpool.

Ahead of this afternoon's trip to relegation-threatened Burnley, the Wales manager has attacked the under-fire Spaniard for wasting more than €300million on his squad over the previous six years.

During his eight-year spell at Anfield between 1970 and 1978, Toshack won a host of honours including three League Championships and one European Cup in addition to forging a formidable strike partnership with Kevin Keegan.

The 61-year-old believes that Liverpool's 2005 Champions League win earned Benitez a stay of execution with supporters but feels that patience is wearing thin after a transfer policy that has from which he claims only Pepe Reina, Fernando Torres and Xabi Alonso can be classed as successful buys.

He said: “Benitez has maintained his reputation with the fans after winning the Champions League, but they are running out of patience.

“His transfer policy leaves a lot to be desired.

“Alonso was a success. It is the same for Reina and Torres, but that’s it.

"He must have spent more than 300million Euros on players!”

what a load of 'Tosh'

hmm I think he is spot on with that.

For a start we havent spent 300 million euros, and Mascherano, Benayoun, Crouch, Agger, Johnso have all not been failures, sure he's signed some dross so does every manager, not a single word said about bertabov 32 million erm..............
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Postby roberto green » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:13 am

Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
zarababe wrote:
s@int wrote:John Toshack has hit out at Rafael Benitez for his wastefulness in the transfer market during his time at Liverpool.

Ahead of this afternoon's trip to relegation-threatened Burnley, the Wales manager has attacked the under-fire Spaniard for wasting more than €300million on his squad over the previous six years.

During his eight-year spell at Anfield between 1970 and 1978, Toshack won a host of honours including three League Championships and one European Cup in addition to forging a formidable strike partnership with Kevin Keegan.

The 61-year-old believes that Liverpool's 2005 Champions League win earned Benitez a stay of execution with supporters but feels that patience is wearing thin after a transfer policy that has from which he claims only Pepe Reina, Fernando Torres and Xabi Alonso can be classed as successful buys.

He said: “Benitez has maintained his reputation with the fans after winning the Champions League, but they are running out of patience.

“His transfer policy leaves a lot to be desired.

“Alonso was a success. It is the same for Reina and Torres, but that’s it.

"He must have spent more than 300million Euros on players!”

what a load of 'Tosh'

hmm I think he is spot on with that.

For a start we havent spent 300 million euros, and Mascherano, Benayoun, Crouch, Agger, Johnso have all not been failures, sure he's signed some dross so does every manager, not a single word said about bertabov 32 million erm..............

Not to mention a certain Mr Sebastion Veron or Deigo Forlan?

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Postby kazza » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:51 am

roberto green wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
zarababe wrote:
s@int wrote:John Toshack has hit out at Rafael Benitez for his wastefulness in the transfer market during his time at Liverpool.

Ahead of this afternoon's trip to relegation-threatened Burnley, the Wales manager has attacked the under-fire Spaniard for wasting more than €300million on his squad over the previous six years.

During his eight-year spell at Anfield between 1970 and 1978, Toshack won a host of honours including three League Championships and one European Cup in addition to forging a formidable strike partnership with Kevin Keegan.

The 61-year-old believes that Liverpool's 2005 Champions League win earned Benitez a stay of execution with supporters but feels that patience is wearing thin after a transfer policy that has from which he claims only Pepe Reina, Fernando Torres and Xabi Alonso can be classed as successful buys.

He said: “Benitez has maintained his reputation with the fans after winning the Champions League, but they are running out of patience.

“His transfer policy leaves a lot to be desired.

“Alonso was a success. It is the same for Reina and Torres, but that’s it.

"He must have spent more than 300million Euros on players!”

what a load of 'Tosh'

hmm I think he is spot on with that.

For a start we havent spent 300 million euros, and Mascherano, Benayoun, Crouch, Agger, Johnso have all not been failures, sure he's signed some dross so does every manager, not a single word said about bertabov 32 million erm..............

Not to mention a certain Mr Sebastion Veron or Deigo Forlan?

???

Hargreaves, Carrick, Anderson were all expensive and don't play for whatever reason.
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Postby lakes10 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:07 am

Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
zarababe wrote:
s@int wrote:John Toshack has hit out at Rafael Benitez for his wastefulness in the transfer market during his time at Liverpool.

Ahead of this afternoon's trip to relegation-threatened Burnley, the Wales manager has attacked the under-fire Spaniard for wasting more than €300million on his squad over the previous six years.

During his eight-year spell at Anfield between 1970 and 1978, Toshack won a host of honours including three League Championships and one European Cup in addition to forging a formidable strike partnership with Kevin Keegan.

The 61-year-old believes that Liverpool's 2005 Champions League win earned Benitez a stay of execution with supporters but feels that patience is wearing thin after a transfer policy that has from which he claims only Pepe Reina, Fernando Torres and Xabi Alonso can be classed as successful buys.

He said: “Benitez has maintained his reputation with the fans after winning the Champions League, but they are running out of patience.

“His transfer policy leaves a lot to be desired.

“Alonso was a success. It is the same for Reina and Torres, but that’s it.

"He must have spent more than 300million Euros on players!”

what a load of 'Tosh'

hmm I think he is spot on with that.

For a start we havent spent 300 million euros, and Mascherano, Benayoun, Crouch, Agger, Johnso have all not been failures, sure he's signed some dross so does every manager, not a single word said about bertabov 32 million erm..............

:censored: hell Ciggy, he has signed 59 players, law of averages say he will signed a few good players out of that lot.

lets not think about some of the :censored: that he has signed and stuck with week in and week out.(Fernando Morientes)
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Postby zarababe » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:12 am

give over lakesy - wi8th his budget it's bound to be like that - do we not have one of the best spines?

so despite the dross - we need to improve in only 2 or 3 positions to be in the running ?

so what is al the TOSH  for .. lets have a dig cos everyone else is ???
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:16 am

lakes10 wrote:hell Ciggy, he has signed 59 players, law of averages say he will signed a few good players out of that lot.

lets not think about some of the :censored: that he has signed and stuck with week in and week out.(Fernando Morientes)

You said spot on about the 300 million euro you know quite well rafa hasnt spent that amount, Morientes was not a sh!t player atall but he just couldnt cut it in the prem.

Talk about facts lakes and not just blame Rafa for absoluty every single thing, A lot of players bought where also very young out of them 59 players from under 15's to the reserves.

Houllier brought some absolute beauts aswell Traore, Diomede, spit the dog, Vignal, to name but a few he spent far more than Rafa on dogsh!t yet did never recieve the abuse that Rafa gets.
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Postby zarababe » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:29 am

I'm afraid it is preaching to the lost  doll - there ain't no point with some any more - they will only be satisfied when Rafa goes.. how long will they give the new guy (if he comes) .. ???
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:29 am

Houlliers signings:

Gerard Houllier bought 40 players for £126,400,000

Jean Michel Ferri
Frode Kippe
Rigobert Song
Djimi Traore
Sami Hyypia Excellent
Vladimir Smicer good
Titi Camara
Stephane Henchoz good
Sander Westerveld
Erik Meijer
Dietmar Hamann Excellent
Emile Heskey Average
Bernard Diomede
Gary McAllister in his short Anfield career excellent
Pegguy Arphexad
Markus Babbel Not bad
Nick Barmby
Christian Ziege
Gregory Vignal
Daniel Sjolund
Igor Biscan 
Jari Litmanen not bad
John Arne Riise good
Milan Baros 
Chris Kirkland 
Jerzy Dudek 
Nicolas Anelka Biggest mistake not signing him up
Abel Xavier
Bruno Cheyrou
El Hadji Diouf
Alou Diarra
Patrice Luzi
Salif Diao
Anthony Le Tallec 
Florent S.-Pongolle pretty good 
Steve Finnan solid
Harry Kewell Sicknote 
Carl Medjani
Paul Jones
Djibril Cissé

Are these players any better or worst than what Rafa has signed, as I said before Ged never received the abuse and hatred Rafa gets from our fans !!!
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Postby bigmick » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:30 am

Ciggs it's not "abuse" to look at the squad and come to the conclusion it's lot thinner than it ought to be. In parts, it's wafer thin and we have a number of players who were either signed for huge fees and/or signed on big contracts who contribute nothing to the cause. We have at best made minor strides forward since Houllier, and have spent millions of pounds per point in doing so. We currently sit a win or so above Everton, so to my mind any of the stuff people spout about lack of investment is nonsense.

It's not abuse to look at the situation and cast a questioning eye over it. For sure there have been poor signings and yes every manager makes them (even Ferguson), but the difference is that they win trophies while they're doing it.
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:32 am

bigmick wrote:Ciggs it's not "abuse" to look at the squad and come to the conclusion it's lot thinner than it ought to be. In parts, it's wafer thin and we have a number of players who were either signed for huge fees and/or signed on big contracts who contribute nothing to the cause. We have at best made minor strides forward since Houllier, and have spent millions of pounds per point in doing so. We currently sit a win or so above Everton, so to my mind any of the stuff people spout about lack of investment is nonsense.

It's not abuse to look at the situation and cast a questioning eye over it. For sure there have been poor signings and yes every manager makes them (even Ferguson), but the difference is that they win trophies while they're doing it.

Its abuse to call him a fat tw@t or fat spanish waiter etc etc, and theres been plenty of it from our so called fans.
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Postby zarababe » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:35 am

bigmick wrote:. For sure there have been poor signings and yes every manager makes them (even Ferguson), but the difference is that they win trophies while they're doing it.

But Fergie is starting from a positin of strengh - Rafa hasn't and still has a great spine,  needing only 2 or 3 players more no ?
Investment matters - when rafa has spent 120m net and Berbatove cost 30mill.. how much D Villa 40mill.. we can't compete and you get what ya pay for (most of tghe time)
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