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by **Dundalk** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:15 pm

Aqua and Keane arent and Dossena was 7 million!

by **tubby** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:48 pm

Dundalk wrote:Aqua and Keane arent and Dossena was 7 million!

As mentioned it's too early to judge Aquilani yet. Yes I admit Keane was a dud but so what he had his chances and it's not like no other manager has ever fecked up with big money. Veron, Reyes, Jeffers ect..... Rafa is only human and mistakes are expected. Sometimes it's a bit of a gamble buying someone from another country as you are not always assured they will settle.

by **Dundalk** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:50 pm

Can you honestly say Bav that given the 50 million to spend in the summer you would trust Rafa to spend it wisely?

by **tubby** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:59 pm

Dundalk wrote:Can you honestly say Bav that given the 50 million to spend in the summer you would trust Rafa to spend it wisely?

Depends on how many players he was looking to buy with that 50Mil. If he was going to spend that on a striker and attacking midfielder alone id say yes but we need at least another CB and even a LB so once you start splitting it down it lowers your options. Not to mention its a world cup year where prices will be inflated anyway.

Hicks has said this summer will be big in terms of spending so lets wait and see what happens with Rafa first.

by **Fowler_E7** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:09 pm

Dundalk wrote:Can you honestly say Bav that given the 50 million to spend in the summer you would trust Rafa to spend it wisely?

i wouldnt , the Keane and Aquilani signings were a disgrace and have put a serious stain on Rafa's judgement. If i was a club chairman i wouldnt trust to him to spend my money on a player anymore. He's had far too many poor signings, i would say its Rafa's main failing as a manager, his judge of talent is very average. Thats why i think Rafa would do very well, at a team with director of football or someone who does the signing for him, as he is better at tactics and coaching than talent spotting.

by **tubby** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:23 pm

Id say his main failing as a manager is his style of man managment or rather lack of man managment. I think Keane may have worked out for us had Rafa taken a more 'arms around the shoulder' approach at times.

I touched on this point before but I think winning the European Cup in his first year was maybe not such a good thing from a learning experience. He probably thought after that he had all aspects of his managment in check so he could continue down that road when in truth he needs to be more dynamic when dealing with players. I respect that he is strict and commands respect but he could also open up more at times and take a more gentle approach. Just an observation.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:29 pm

Dundalk wrote:Can you honestly say Bav that given the 50 million to spend in the summer you would trust Rafa to spend it wisely?

What 50 million is this your referring to mate ,only I must have missed the part where I was supposed to trust any statement the owners or indeed Purslow was meant to have declared as truth ,something they seem to mould conveniently to suit their own agenda

by **Dundalk** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:37 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Can you honestly say Bav that given the 50 million to spend in the summer you would trust Rafa to spend it wisely?

What 50 million is this your referring to mate ,only I must have missed the part where I was supposed to trust any statement the owners or indeed Purslow was meant to have declared as truth ,something they seem to mould conveniently to suit their own agenda

Read back a page

I said - I know we have no money but if by some miracle some rich Arab was to plow millions into our club in the summer would you really want Rafa in charge of spending it?

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:50 pm

Dundalk wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Can you honestly say Bav that given the 50 million to spend in the summer you would trust Rafa to spend it wisely?

What 50 million is this your referring to mate ,only I must have missed the part where I was supposed to trust any statement the owners or indeed Purslow was meant to have declared as truth ,something they seem to mould conveniently to suit their own agenda

Read back a page

I said - I know we have no money but if by some miracle some rich Arab was to plow millions into our club in the summer would you really want Rafa in charge of spending it?

I did read that mate ,but even such obvious pipe dreams would be in our present predicament a shall we say lengthy stretch of the imagination, even if a rich Arab in your words was to ride in on the obligatory white charger he then would have to pay an exorbitant sum ridding us of our debt and then the potential cost of a new stadium ,plus the indignity of getting into bed with the stubborn owners who are presently refusing to give the proverbial inch to aid our survival

by **Dundalk** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:56 pm

Im just speaking hypothetically

The question was that if we had money would Rafa, given his recent record, be the man to spend it? In the long run I know it dosent matter as we are broke. But if he is in charge next season im sure he will be given enough money for one big signing in the summer - he messed up the last 2 ( Keane and Aqua) would you trust him again?

by **Fowler_E7** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:56 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Dundalk wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Can you honestly say Bav that given the 50 million to spend in the summer you would trust Rafa to spend it wisely?

What 50 million is this your referring to mate ,only I must have missed the part where I was supposed to trust any statement the owners or indeed Purslow was meant to have declared as truth ,something they seem to mould conveniently to suit their own agenda

Read back a page

I said - I know we have no money but if by some miracle some rich Arab was to plow millions into our club in the summer would you really want Rafa in charge of spending it?

I did read that mate ,but even such obvious pipe dreams would be in our present predicament a shall we say lengthy stretch of the imagination, even if a rich Arab in your words was to ride in on the obligatory white charger he then would have to pay an exorbitant sum ridding us of our debt and then the potential cost of a new stadium ,plus the indignity of getting into bed with the stubborn owners who are presently refusing to give the proverbial inch to aid our survival

he's asking a simple question, if hyperthetically we had £50 million to spend on players would you trust Rafael Benitez to spend it wisely, yes or no?

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:57 pm

Oh and in answer to your original question mate, would I personally trust Rafa to spend the millions in the procuring of top talent for Liverpool Fc the answer would be in the affirmative ,and considerably more than I would trust McLeish or Hodgson with the task

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:59 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Dundalk wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Can you honestly say Bav that given the 50 million to spend in the summer you would trust Rafa to spend it wisely?

What 50 million is this your referring to mate ,only I must have missed the part where I was supposed to trust any statement the owners or indeed Purslow was meant to have declared as truth ,something they seem to mould conveniently to suit their own agenda

Read back a page

I said - I know we have no money but if by some miracle some rich Arab was to plow millions into our club in the summer would you really want Rafa in charge of spending it?

I did read that mate ,but even such obvious pipe dreams would be in our present predicament a shall we say lengthy stretch of the imagination, even if a rich Arab in your words was to ride in on the obligatory white charger he then would have to pay an exorbitant sum ridding us of our debt and then the potential cost of a new stadium ,plus the indignity of getting into bed with the stubborn owners who are presently refusing to give the proverbial inch to aid our survival

he's asking a simple question, if hyperthetically we had £50 million to spend on players would you trust Rafael Benitez to spend it wisely, yes or no?

Yes ..... as I have stated infinitely more than I would McLeish or Hodgson

by **Kharhaz** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:01 pm

Would I trust Rafa with 50 million. Yes. Despite the flops he has brought in Reina, Alonso, Torres, Riera, Crouch, Bellamy etc

My doubt would be HOW he uses those players. Alonso was a brilliant player but..well we all know what happened there. Same as Crouch. For me he can spot talent, he just doesnt seem to like the personalities of many of those he does sign.

by **Dundalk** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:01 pm

McLeish or Hodgson

Who mentioned them?

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