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by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:49 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:He is an indispensible member of the squad - the manager , the players , the coaching staff and the majority of the fans know it- some never will .

I don't think he is indispensable.

If more players had shown the same heart,desire,passion , fight and willingness to run through brick walls for our club then we might well be in a better position than we are now .

There is a post in this thread from RBG and i will find it - it sums up kuyt pretty well .

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:50 pm

redbeergoggles wrote:Lets start by dispelling the most popular myths surrounding Kuyt ,his first touch while not being exemplary is adequate enough ,this when weighed up against the fact, that he always finds space to exploit defenders, and bring strikers into play ,the latter wins hands down .
Then we have the second point Kuyts not a Striker ,No ! well he's suprised the hell out of me because without him Liverpool wouldnt be up Uniteds so-called Imperious @rse .
The one greatest attribute he brings to this team is his commitment ,and believe it or not his speed of thought, Kuyt is rarely extolled for his ingenuity, and watching him on that field ,Ive no reservations the fella's heart is Scouse ....
I know Kuyt will always have his dissenters, but he epitomizes the spirit that Liverpool Football Club exists for ,and while he is at this club ,I will be safe in the comfort that its not just Scousers who would run through the proverbial brick wall for this great club of ours ........

Here is a great post from RBG someone who realises the true value of Kuyt to our team .

by **LFC2007** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:55 pm

I wouldn't be looking to sell him, but to say his contribution is 'indispensable' is a tad far-fetched

. He's a good player when he's in-form, but that's been too occasional in his time with us and he seems to be overly reliant on the team performing well in order to make a telling contribution. (If we're not playing well he's not one to start pulling the strings) That's because his general possession play has never been eye-catching (not in a positive sense at least), far from it in all honesty. I wouldn't be too critical on the manager for selecting him when there really haven't been many other viable options (granted, Benayoun occasionally) given our injury problems.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:59 pm

Ok mate will change the word to valuable member of the squad as he isnt at the level of gerrard ,torres, pepe but is along with the guys like agger ,carra, aurelio,johnson,yossi masher as a member of our strongest first 11 .

by **Owzat** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:34 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
redbeergoggles wrote:Lets start by dispelling the most popular myths surrounding Kuyt ,his first touch while not being exemplary is adequate enough ,this when weighed up against the fact, that he always finds space to exploit defenders, and bring strikers into play ,the latter wins hands down .
Then we have the second point Kuyts not a Striker ,No ! well he's suprised the hell out of me because without him Liverpool wouldnt be up Uniteds so-called Imperious @rse .
The one greatest attribute he brings to this team is his commitment ,and believe it or not his speed of thought, Kuyt is rarely extolled for his ingenuity, and watching him on that field ,Ive no reservations the fella's heart is Scouse ....
I know Kuyt will always have his dissenters, but he epitomizes the spirit that Liverpool Football Club exists for ,and while he is at this club ,I will be safe in the comfort that its not just Scousers who would run through the proverbial brick wall for this great club of ours ........

Here is a great post from RBG someone who realises the true value of Kuyt to our team .

It's funny how whenever Liverpool aren't playing well it is somehow ALWAYS Kuyt's fault, well his and Lucas' and Babel if they can somehow fit him into the equation.

He's up there with Gerrard, Torres and Benayoun as likeliest source of a goal, ok his form dips but whose doesn't?!? I often read comments on here in disbelief, the classic is those who'd rather have some airy fairy right winger who takes on and dances past the full-back, but does FA with the ball thereafter, than Kuyt who contributes more end product than most supposedly better RMs come wingers. Has it come to it that our lack of creativity always produces a finger pointing at Kuyt? If he is the ONLY attacking player 'not creative enough' then wtf are the rest doing?

by **Fauxy** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:15 pm

Despite his goal today he didnt have a very good game.

He is always the one who gets onto the end of deflections though so I would prefer him upfront than Ngog.

by **aCe'** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:19 pm

Fauxy wrote:Despite his goal today he didnt have a very good game.

He is always the one who gets onto the end of deflections though so I would prefer him upfront than Ngog.

All credit to him though he works tirelessly to get at the end of the deflections and crosses... Agreed on him needing to be played upfront if Torres isnt around... despite me thinking that Ngog has done very well when played, Kuyt seems to be the more logical pick of the 2 especially given the fact that he hasnt been influencing games from his RW spot, and that Rafa will always play him regardless... could be time for us to see a different look to our attacking game.. Benny came on and we immediately started looking more dangerous down the flanks, same with Riera... Some added width and someone with a little bit of creativity to know the right pass to pick out from wider out when we get the ball...

by **Zidane** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:43 pm

I thought he was good today, in general the team was very poor but almost every attack created by us, as rare as they were, tended to come from something created by Kuyt.

by **Penguins** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:28 pm

Well, now he has earned another 3 months of garbage showings because his heart is so red... :no

He is so poor with the ball... but I can see why many likes him.
But he is so damn average it's unbelivable. But now he has scored against the blue***** so he is one step closer to sainthood.

by **redhayesy** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:48 pm

Penguins wrote:Well, now he has earned another 3 months of garbage showings because his heart is so red...

He is so poor with the ball... but I can see why many likes him.
But he is so damn average it's unbelivable. But now he has scored against the blue***** so he is one step closer to sainthood.

so you weren't celebrating, an saying what a great player an contribution he made towards todays victory? - cause i was more so than ever! the lad is a fecking graet example about passion, giving their all for the side etc, etc that when he scored today- after i finished celebrating, i was made up for theplayer himself cause he has reaped what he has sown!

well done dirk lad, keep it going- your enthusiasm,effort an desire makes you a step closer to sainthood for me!

by **redhayesy** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:52 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Like i said agree to disagree - going back over this thread no matter what kuyt was doing - scoring or creating goals their were a small minority who were still slagging him off and always will do .

He will never be good enough for some but lucky enough they are in the minority and dont have anything to do with picking the team . Thats left to the people who know what they are doing .

yeah because Rafa really looks like he knows what he's doing right now dosnt he and i think you will find your the one that is in the minority. your completly clueless

yer cause we won today! raffa doesn't have a clue does he! fecking enjoy the victory over the bitters!

i'm the one laughing at you now - cause your clueless, not beeny.

by **woof woof !** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:14 pm

redhayesy wrote:
Penguins wrote:Well, now he has earned another 3 months of garbage showings because his heart is so red...

He is so poor with the ball... but I can see why many likes him.
But he is so damn average it's unbelivable. But now he has scored against the blue***** so he is one step closer to sainthood.

so you weren't celebrating, an saying what a great player an contribution he made towards todays victory? - cause i was more so than ever! the lad is a fecking graet example about passion, giving their all for the side etc, etc that when he scored today- after i finished celebrating, i was made up for theplayer himself cause he has reaped what he has sown!

well done dirk lad, keep it going- your enthusiasm,effort an desire makes you a step closer to sainthood for me!

Well said mate, Kuyt may not be the sharpest blade in the knife drawer but if the rest of the team could match his application and commitment we'd be streets ahead of where we are now.

by **Penguins** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:20 pm

All this heart and desire is doing my head in.
I want a quality footballer with skill and tricks going past defender, not a headless chicken running(slowly) around kissing the badge and saying the right things in the media at the right time.

by **bigmick** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:25 pm

How did he actually play out of interest? If it wasn't that great, was the goal significant enough in the context of the game to render his performance overall as worthy?

DISCLAIMER: I'm just asking, I haven't seen the match.

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:27 pm

Worked his balls off and snatched a goal. I think games were he doesn't get time on the ball suit him.

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