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by **tubby** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:41 pm

55m to spend this summer? :laugh:

Nice to see some people still have a sense of humor around here.

by **boodiddy1** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:46 pm

Well ladies and gents, lets try for lippi, pelligrini, rijkaard, zacheroni etc. Then another five years of the italian brigade coming in, or the dutch mob turning up. Very similar to the fench with gerard, spanish armada with rafa.

stevie and carra getting on, are we gonna find our soul soon or be a foreign bodied club? You need a nucleus of british players to win this league.

I'd love Dalglish, but dont want his legend tainting like Souness' has with some people. So, Roy is the man for now.

Why a load of balls emerald. You explain in detail. Or have you jumped on the ani-woy bandwagon before he has even got the job?

I support the club and therefore will support the manager. The likes of me and you cant really do anything about the owners. Im an SOS member, buy hand on heart we're are :censored:

against the wind!

Getting a bit of movement, but the yanks arent concerned with us. Its a fact.

by **boodiddy1** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:49 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
boodiddy1 wrote:I aint saying hodgson is the greatest manager out there, but we cant attain that just yet. However, Hodgson is a very good British manager. IMO second behind Taggart. I hate MON with a passion. Allardyce has gone backwards lately.

I'd definitely prefer Kenny or O'Neil to Hodgson, I just think that if we're going to look at Pellegrini, Rijkaard, Van Basten and co then Hodgson merits consideration, too. Firstly, he has enough of a record (a wealth of experience -in England and abroad - with patchy success) to distinguish him from Fat Sam and the like, and secondly we have a specific brief: More for less, with the overriding aim of achieving stability in the league. We don't necessarily need stylish football or success in the Europa League. Player recuitment will be an important part of the job and if it turns out that we have to wheel and deal this summer, it seems reasonable to consider that Hodgson's experience counts for something more than would otherwise be the case. Obviously though there's a lot to consider before making the decision, and you'd be a fool to base your decision on track record alone - particularly when there are no outstanding candidates with recent triumphs to their name - and in that respect our judgments are limited to an outsider's perspective. Here you may refer to any number of successful managers who didn't have the record before being given the chance e.g. Wenger - if the resident statto had made the decision, that ridiculous Frenchman would have been ruled out instantly.

A good post, even though i dont agree with MON better than hodgson. I've stated that kenny is better. But his legacy for me cant be tainted. I mean especially with our current owners. If a rich arab or whoever takes over and they want kenny, then fine. He will have funds to compete with taggart again.

by **boodiddy1** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:53 pm

bavlondon wrote:55m to spend this summer? Nice to see some people still have a sense of humor around here.

A very good sense of humour, but that was mentioned about the sale of masch and 15m already there etc.

But Bav, you dont surprise me. Your one of Lakes' silly brigade. Your BBC mates blah blah blah. You love turning a comment. Spin me thinks. Are you a cockney also?

by **LFC2007** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:01 pm

On his time at Inter:

Massimo Moratti became president at Inter in 1995 after a decade of turmoil in which the Italian club went close to meltdown, surviving relegation by a solitary point.

One month into the new season Inter were bottom of the table, and Moratti took drastic action by sacking Luis Suarez as manager and turning to Hodgson.

The Englishman had an immediate impact, dragging them up the table to clinch a place in Europe. The following season, he led Inter to a UEFA Cup final and third place in Serie A.

"Roy Hodgson was an important person in the development of Inter Milan to the point we have reached today,” said Moratti. “He saved us at the right time.

“When he came we were in trouble, and things appeared dark. He didn’t panic, he was calm and made us calm

“Disaster was averted at the most important time. Everyone at Inter will remember him for that and his contribution. He is considered by us all as an important person in our history. He left an endowment to this club that’s important in our history.”

Hodgson worked on a limited budget and initially had few of the star names synonymous with the present-day club – his biggest player was Paul Ince. But he unified a previously fractured squad, and created one of the most fondly remembered sides of that decade.

Moratti believes that if Liverpool want a man to calm troubled waters and bring stability to Anfield, the Fulham boss is ideal.

Hodgson had a second spell at Inter as caretaker boss after his sacking by Blackburn in 1998.

“Roy has experience,” Moratti said. “He came back to us to help us when we needed someone to step in and calm things down as a stand-in manager.

“If Liverpool or any club need someone with authority and with a fine reputation people will look up to, players and fans alike, he’s a perfect candidate.

“We still see him, he is part of our family, and always welcome at our club. I’ve been asked about his qualities, and I’d say he has many, most importantly of all he has qualities as a man.”

Hodgson’s career has primarily been spent on the Continent, and many people in England are unaware of his achievements following his disappointing time at Blackburn.

Only in the past year, after he steered Fulham to the Europa League final, has he come to prominence in the Premier League, but in Europe he is regarded as one of the best tacticians in the game.

Fulham fans are in no doubt as to his ability, as one showed with a banner at the Europa final in Hamburg (below left).

Hodgson took Malmo to five consecutive Swedish titles, turned Inter around, claimed notable scalps consistently in European competition, and under him Switzerland reached a world ranking of three by out-qualifying eventual finalists Italy for the 1994 World Cup.

But it is his reputation for being a statesman who can handle a crisis that makes him an ideal candidate, given the unrest at Anfield. He has a proven ability to work with players and create harmony.

Hodgson has remained quiet about Liverpool’s interest in recent days, but the 62-year-old is thought to be interested in one last challenge.

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And a separate pic....

With Gianluca Pagliuca, Ivan Zamorano and Fabio Galante.

by **NANNY RED** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:03 pm

bavlondon wrote:55m to spend this summer? Nice to see some people still have a sense of humor around here.

laughable isnt it Bav.

As far as im concerned Roy is flavour of the month with the media and you all know how much Christie and Martin trust and base there judgement of things on what the media say, Makes me laugh at some of the reasons why some of yous want him here , based on what a Europa cup final that most on here were absolutly slating Our previous manager and the team for because we were in it, i thought it was a Micky mouse cup and didnt mean nothing , now all of a sudden because Roy got a team there hes walt disney.
Where did he finish in the league , 17 i think
How many away goals has his team scored over 2 seasons 4,

Now hes gonna become the new messaih and make us great again, Well im sorry but its gonna take more than Roy , ffs we shouldnt even be looking or thinking about the likes of him as our boss , this is how low we have stooped in my book.
Do people honestly in there hearts think that he will be able to hold on to our top players, do people seriouslt think he will be able to even attract a player with the caliber that should be playing for us, even on a freebie. Because i think not,
Its a f.ucking disgrace that we have a banker and a chelsea season ticket holder in charge of selecting our new manager i feel so sorry for Kenny with these two he has got no fecking chance of a say in anything, and i honestly do think he will eventualy walk away himself,

Sad sad times at this club,
:no

by **boodiddy1** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:19 pm

You know, ive been on this forum since 2003. Some of the drivel that gets spouted about now is unreal. Little internet mobs and teams have formed on here. We get juvenile kids spouting garbage from their 2005 onwards knowledge. Sky Sports watchers who dont really have a knowledge of football outside of la liga ( barca, real, valencia) etc. The CL followers, who think that all foreigners are best. The Jose lovers! Yet, believe it or not, football is a world-wide game were some managers, coaches etc, have been plying their trade without getting a break at a top club in a european league. Hodgson might get his chance here, and i really dont htink he's gonna do a bad job.

I really hope our real fans give him backing. If Rafa's name his chanted this season, that'll be it for me. That boat has sailed people. His last few years were pretty torrid. Too many goalless draws against poor teams. A reliance on two holding midfielders at home to the likes of Wolves, Hull, Bolton, Fulham etc. :censored:

terrible time in transfer market last few years. An over reliance on torres and gerrard. Had we moved forward really. Is Insua better than riise? Agger than Sammi? Johnson than Babbel. Babel than Heskey? (heskey of 2001!) Baros or Ngog?

I aint a pro Roy or whatever. But, too many are looking at rafs reign through rose tinted spectacles, because it was dour at the end. The ownership will rumble on, but, our manager cant get involved in that. Fergie doesnt at that mob. They could be more :censored:

than us. He doesnt use it as an excuse to explain defeat. Its funny, how on our little run at end of 08-09 season, when we almost pinched it, rafa nor the fans were mentioning the owners. It was only when realising that rafa had bought a dud italian and an defensively frail full back/wing back that the owners were blamed. Keane debacle the year before was shocking. The barry pursuit etc etc. The purchase of Voronin when we still has Pongolle who was much better, even though ultimately not good enough! We could, and i could go on for hours over the rights and wrongs of rafa, but its history.

Look at history people. I just wonder what the fans would have said years ago if we had appointed a manger with no CV of managing or winning titles in this country or any other country for that matter!

For the sky sports and little children mob, im talking about how a club appointed two mangers with little experience of even managing a team. Guess what happened? It was the prequel to your fanciful night in Istanbul culminating in number 5.

Good honest football men who created history for a famous football club. Is Roys knowledge that much poorer than Joes or Bob's?? I aint saying he will emulate that. But, this club isnt as fooked as some will have you believe. (in playing personnel terms)

Back him please whether you think its right or wrong.

by **boodiddy1** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:26 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
bavlondon wrote:55m to spend this summer? Nice to see some people still have a sense of humor around here.

laughable isnt it Bav.

As far as im concerned Roy is flavour of the month with the media and you all know how much Christie and Martin trust and base there judgement of things on what the media say, Makes me laugh at some of the reasons why some of yous want him here , based on what a Europa cup final that most on here were absolutly slating Our previous manager and the team for because we were in it, i thought it was a Micky mouse cup and didnt mean nothing , now all of a sudden because Roy got a team there hes walt disney.
Where did he finish in the league , 17 i think
How many away goals has his team scored over 2 seasons 4,

Now hes gonna become the new messaih and make us great again, Well im sorry but its gonna take more than Roy , ffs we shouldnt even be looking or thinking about the likes of him as our boss , this is how low we have stooped in my book.
Do people honestly in there hearts think that he will be able to hold on to our top players, do people seriouslt think he will be able to even attract a player with the caliber that should be playing for us, even on a freebie. Because i think not,
Its a f.ucking disgrace that we have a banker and a chelsea season ticket holder in charge of selecting our new manager i feel so sorry for Kenny with these two he has got no fecking chance of a say in anything, and i honestly do think he will eventualy walk away himself,

Sad sad times at this club,

Put some names forward Nan! Read posts please. 55m was a masch sale, kitty, dead wood sales etc.

You have a great passion for this club, but honestly, this pro rafa thing has to stop. He immersed himself in getting the supporters onside, but far too many saw through it. His tactis were totally wrong for the prem.

We cant or couldnt afford mourinho. WHy would you want to sour kenny's legacy? You know how bad the owners are! They would belittle him any chance they got. Hodgson will be a stop gap. Until we get new owners, but he will steady the ship similar to what he did at inter. Christ, he might even win the FA Cup!

by **Reg** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:32 pm

The point is Bo, even if we raise 55m, people dont think for a moment we're going to be allowed to spend it. if we're in such a strong position then why would we be selling players? Come on mate, you know the SP.

by **Ciggy** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:41 pm

http://www.fulham-mad.co.uk/news....x.shtml

by **fivecups** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:43 pm

Kenny's asked for the job. I wouldn't have forced it on him, but if he wants it why not give him a go?

by **boodiddy1** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:51 pm

Reg wrote:The point is Bo, even if we raise 55m, people dont think for a moment we're going to be allowed to spend it. if we're in such a strong position then why would we be selling players? Come on mate, you know the SP.

Reg, i know where we are, but i can honestly see most of the money going into transfers. They are ruthless :censored:

and i hate them but they arent stupid. If they dilute value of squad and potential for success. then there asking price will nev3r be met.

From listening to RBS and MB, it looke like the americans cant sell to pay off loans just now. They dont have a say. If RBS, CP, MB allow it, honestly, hand on heart. What do you think you'd see at Anfield with our fans???

I can see riots that havent been witnessed for years. We'd hang the fookers. That would irreversibly damage their sale price. They know what Liverpool fans and Scousers in general are like. We'd hit them far too hard. We are quite militant when backs are up. ( :censored:

, i dont wanna get political!

)

Torres and gerrard will not go this season. Masch will, hes a great player, but a rafa disciple!

Reg, my point is, that we wont actively sell players. They will go if they want to. Carra said it a month ago. Better players have left than the ones we have and we are still a great club.

I've posted so much tonight because i hoonestly believe we british and that hodgson is the most obvious choice. We need to steadt the ship and roy is capapble of that. We wnt win Prem short term, but we cant drop too far away from top 4. A foreign maanager with little funds would ruin us. 55m or wateva we have will be lost on michel-ferri, lucas, babel, degan, le-tallec, diao, diouf type players.

Hey, its a forum i ccould be totally wrong!

I just aint jumping on bandwagons like a lot seem to be doing. Its almost like a gang mentality on here. Im not talking about you either

by **bunglemark2** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:10 pm

I've been out of touch on this topic of late - has that gimp ku.nt Hodgson been made manager of LFC yet ?

by **fergieisawhiskeynosedtw@t** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:11 pm

Ciggy wrote:Hodgeson will be the most uninspirational appointment EVER.

change the record! everyone knows your not a fan of Woy but have you stopped to ask yourself one question? who the feck would want to manage Liverpool fc at the moment? man, some of you are just not getting it we are in dire straights and it will get worse over the summer, just deal with the facts!!!

by **Ciggy** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:14 pm

fergieisawhiskeynosedtw@t wrote:change the record! everyone knows your not a fan of Woy but have you stopped to ask yourself one question? who the feck would want to manage Liverpool fc at the moment? man, some of you are just not getting it we are in dire straights and it will get worse over the summer, just deal with the facts!!!

And some of us have been dealing with these facts for nearly three feckin years, I wont be supporting any yes man brought in by Purslow and the yanks they can get 2 feck.

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