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by **Rush Job** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:56 am

Effes wrote:
Rush Job wrote:
Zidane wrote:Lets be real fellas, more than likely we won't be getting a top drawer manager so with that already practically a given.. What managers do you feel would be a good fit?

I tipped Hodgson at the start of the season

There's your other example you were looking for.

I couldn't be arsd looking through your old posts; but it is a trait of yours.

Your name should be Harry Hindsight.

What the fk you on about now?
I said at the start of the season I liked him as manager so I`m sticking to it now.
Whats your problem with that?
How is that hindsight? Please explain.

Actually, dont bother your obviously a tool. If you dont like what I post dont read it, simple.

by **Rush Job** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:10 am

The more I think about it if it is an appointment that will be reviewed when new owners come in then give it to Kenny.

With Kenny D its got to be.. EASY EASY :buttrock

by **Octsky** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:20 am

Roy Hodgson couldnt make stars like Torres and Gerrard stay, no offense to him, as i think he did great at Fulham. But he just dont have the "star quality".

i believe if King Kenny took charge, and ask Gerrard and Torres to stay. Gerrard will stay, Torres most likely because the man deserved and earned respect.

When the club is in difficulties, it is the best chance to tell which players are loyal and stay with the club through rain or shine.
Buffon and Nedved, 2 of the biggest star in football stay with Juve when they are relegated and i respect them for that. Del peiro too, he stay with Juve in glory and in shame.

by **anfieldadorer** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:56 am

Eriksson, anybody?

Eriksson said: "I have been a Liverpool fan all of my life. I never mentioned it when I was in charge of England because I didn't think it was fair.
"I was shocked when I discovered Rafa Benítez had left. Would I want to be the manager of Liverpool? It is every manager's dream to manage Liverpool.
"My father was also a Liverpool supporter and every Saturday we would watch an English match on television. It was the highlight of the week.

by **Owzat** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:13 am

What exactly has Woy done that has amazed people?!? Fulham under Hodgson have a record of P127 W50 D32 L45 (Won 39.37%) according to wikipedia, and their away record in the last two seasons is dreadful

FULHAM PREMIERSHIP (AWAY)

2008/09 : P19 W3 D8 L8 F11 A18 PTS 17
2009/10 : P19 W1 D7 L11 F12 A31 PTS 10

He finished 12th last season, 7th the season before. Sure the side he has isn't brimming with Torres' and Gerrards, but it does have the likes of Hangeland, Gera, Andrew Johnson, Murphy, Schwarzer, Dempsey, Zamora, Simon Davies, Duff and Konchesky so is hardly relegation material - Fulham have been in the Premiership since 01/02 and while 7th is their highest finish, 12th is about average.

A lot of the hype surrounding Woy is due to Fulham's Euro Disney League exploits, don't forget we were shocking last season and only went out at the semis on away goals. Sure Fulham reached the final, but their opposition on the way there was mixed :

Final : lost to Atletico Madrid, 9th in La Liga
Semi : beat Hamburg, 7th in Bundesliga
QF : beat Wolfsburg, 8th in Bundesliga
L16 : beat Juventus, 7th in Serie A
L32 : beat Shaktar Donestsk, 2nd in Ukrainian league

So while we may wow at the names Fulham beat, none of the teams they beat from the last sixteen onwards finished in the top six of their domestic league.

So I remain unimpressed with Woy, pinching a manager who finished 12th in the top flight is not who I'd be going for unless they were manager of Accrington Stanley or some team like that in their first season and had got to the EDL having won a cup last season having been Champions of the Championship.

I'm equally unimpressed by MON who has taken villa to 6th in three consecutive seasons and managed 60, 62 and 64 points in consecutive seasons ie not a significant improvement despite some (relatively) big spending. Their goalscoring in the same period has gone backwards, 71 goals in 07/08 to 52 in 09/10. I think I'll pass on him, not achieved anything to persuade me he can win the league title in England, "doing well" in the league with Leicester, ok with villa and reaching mickey mouse cup finals beating teams including TRANMERE doesn't impress me much and neither does winning the two donkey SPL with one of the two donkeys.

I couldn't stand his touchline antics either, he's an embarrassment

by **Owzat** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:16 am

anfieldadorer wrote:Eriksson, anybody?

Eriksson said: "I have been a Liverpool fan all of my life. I never mentioned it when I was in charge of England because I didn't think it was fair.
"I was shocked when I discovered Rafa Benítez had left. Would I want to be the manager of Liverpool? It is every manager's dream to manage Liverpool.
"My father was also a Liverpool supporter and every Saturday we would watch an English match on television. It was the highlight of the week.

Not convinced, his record with citeh was only P45 W19 D11 L15 and while he has won titles with other clubs, his last domestic league success was 2000 with Lazio from what I can tell on wikipedia

citeh is the only club he's managed since Lazio, fair enough, but surely having managed countries mostly for the last decade doesn't count in his favour? Might be just a tad out of touch with the transfer market for starters

by **kazza** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:45 am

anfieldadorer wrote:Eriksson, anybody?

Eriksson said: "I have been a Liverpool fan all of my life. I never mentioned it when I was in charge of England because I didn't think it was fair.
"I was shocked when I discovered Rafa Benítez had left. Would I want to be the manager of Liverpool? It is every manager's dream to manage Liverpool.
"My father was also a Liverpool supporter and every Saturday we would watch an English match on television. It was the highlight of the week.

That was the same w@nker that told Owen that to guarantee a place in the England team he should move to Madrid. Owen did, was a sub and Eriksson left him out of the team

and now he is a Liverpool supporter

No thanks, he was the reason I stopped following England.

A yes man with no morals (I bet he is our next manager)

by **SeaofRed** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:53 am

Eriksson out of touch with the transfer market? He signed Martin Petrov, Verdun Corluka and Geovanni - hardly bad signings and he plucked Gelson Fernandes from Switzerland who back then was touted as a player with a bright future.

by **kazza** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:58 am

Skysports:

Liverpool are planning a shock move for Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp, Sky Sports sources understand.

The Anfield outfit are searching for a new man at the helm after Rafa Benitez's six-year reign was brought to an end by mutual consent on Thursday.

And Spurs boss Redknapp has emerged as a leading contender for the Reds hierarchy as they aim to bring stability back to Merseyside.

Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish and managing director Christian Purslow have been charged with the task of identifying and selecting a replacement.

Dalglish knows Redknapp well having brought his son Jamie to Anfield in January 1991 when he was at the helm of the five-time European champions and the two families have been close ever since.

Redknapp's reputation as a transfer market wheeler-dealer has made him an attractive option for Liverpool, who are heavily in debt and could have only £5million to invest in new players if they do not trim their squad this summer.

The former Bournemouth, West Ham, Southampton and Portsmouth manager has transformed the fortunes of the White Hart Lane club since replacing Juande Ramos in October 2008.

Redknapp his since guided the club into the top four of the Premier League - ironically at the expense of Liverpool - and they have the prospect of UEFA Champions League football to look forward to next season.

Spurs would be loath to lose the services of Redknapp, who has been granted an impressive transfer budget during his time in North London, and are sure to fight hard to keep the 63-year-old.

Redknapp has only one year remaining on his current contract at White Hart Lane and talks over a new deal are yet to take place.

by **RedSi35** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:10 am

You just have to :censored:

lol at sky sports.

They peddle any old :censored:

. Redknapp to Liverpool lol

by **lakes10** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:35 am

RedSi35 wrote:You just have to lol at sky sports.

They peddle any old . Redknapp to Liverpool lol

to be fair to SSN Talkshit were first to report it then the BBC.

by **tubby** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:05 am

Talksport and sky are in the same building arnt they? They just passed it along a few doors to give them a breaking story.

by **shabelle50** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:07 am

I doubt it will be Redknapp even though he would be a good choice. After the Robbie Keane transfer dealings and Levy's comments about Liverpool I think Spurs would probably go to the high court to stop Redknapp coming to Anfield if Purslow made an approach. I also can't see a return to the football of the late 80s if Torres, Mascherano, Benayoun and Gerrard are sold even if Dalglish is appointed. Who would there be? Babel left wing Rodriguez right wing Kuyt and Ngog up front Lucas and Aquilani in midfield. We'll still have a side that could push for fourth but no more than that.

by **Igor Zidane** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:07 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 92585.html

Quote:
When Kenny Dalglish – or as he will soon be renamed "Kingmaker Kenny" – conducts his first interview for the role of manager of Liverpool Football Club it will be interesting to hear him set out the job description. We can only pray he speaks very slowly and very honestly. For it is only fair the candidates be made completely aware of what is expected of them.

But then, we all know Dalglish won't really be involved in the process and that he's only been called upon to douse the anger of the mutineers. It'll be down to whichever puppet the owners/board choose. Whoever it is – whether it's the chairman, chief executive or a £10,000-an hour headhunter – they will have to be some salesman. A smooth-talker whose next assignment will not be to sell sand to the Arabs but sell a debt- ridden club to the Arabs. Perhaps the spiel to the prospective gaffer should go something like this...

"Right let's get down to it – the last chap was a disaster. Rafa Benitez failed dismally. In six seasons he reached only two Champions' League finals, winning only one of them to go alongside his one FA Cup. How dare he? And don't even get us started about the Premier League. Do you know it took him five seasons to lead the club to its best League season in 19 years. Five seasons? I ask you, how much time did he want?

"Yes, yes, 2008-09 was rather promising on the face of it, losing just two games and collecting more points than any other runner-up in the history of the League. But we found out what he was about in the next campaign. Way down in seventh, a whole seven points off the fourth-place finish with which we would have been satisfied. It couldn't go on, so it didn't. Particularly when the press came on side and started printing the myths dressed up as damning statistics.

"Benitez signed more than 70 players for more than £240m. True, 30 of them were youth players and he did sell quite a few, too. In fact, when you do the actual maths his net spend is more like £80m, less than Spurs and, of course, less than Manchester City in the same period. But £240m sounds better, don't you think? And the wages? Well, yes, ours are about three-quarters of United's and Chelsea's, but what's that got to do with anything? This ungrateful man thought just because the new owners have given him virtually nowt to spend since they took over in 2007 he could whinge about it. Couldn't he see we're all suffering here? That even poor old George and Tom, as hard as they have tried, have been forced to put the club £350m in debt.

"So, you'll understand, we had to get rid of him. He would definitely have caused a fuss when we sold Torres and Gerrard and gave him £15m for squad strengthening. You wouldn't mind managing without those two would you? After all, Rafa effectively had to last season, with the Spaniard always injured and the new England captain in the worst form of his career.

"Still, there was no need for anyone to focus on that when they could blame him for selling Xabi Alonso and bringing in Alberto Aquilani. The most outrageous thing was that we only made £10m because of that piece of dreadful business. No, he had to go and now we have to go for a manager able to mask the cracks as we move ever deeper into the red and try to sell this club for a price it is simply not worth.

"So here's what we expect from the new boss in a nutshell. You must qualify for the Champions' League every year, winning it more often than once every six years and reaching the final every three years; you must do better in the Premier League than simply finishing a better second than any team before; and you must do all this on a smaller budget than your rivals, despite the fact everybody will claim otherwise. Do all that – and more importantly do it without moaning – and you'll be a hero in Liverpool and Texas. And please don't suffer one bad season that may or may not be a blip. Because you'll never be able to prove it was a blip. Because we'll get rid of you straight away and Fleet Street will applaud us for doing so.

"The fans? To hell with them. Thanks to those who we will soon have to call our 'friends in the press', the Anfield faithful can be dismissed as being more deluded than those cultists in Waco. Didn't you know they only stuck by Rafa because they had made him the figurehead for their protests. Well, that's what the columnists said anyway. It soon became accepted as a journalistic truth that the Liverpool support was 'in denial' when it came to Rafa and that in their hatred of the Americans they couldn't spot his inadequacies. Insulting? Perhaps just a little bit, considering we're talking here about fans who have consistently proved to be among the most knowledgeable. But it did the trick. They were talking rubbish – Rafa was rubbish. Had to go.

"So that brings us nicely on to you. How can you say no? Liverpool is a massive club, as you well know. And if we're bought out by some rich Arabs one day we might again have the finances of a massive club. To be honest, I wouldn't expect that to be Dubai now as they're more skint than we are. But someone with bottomless pockets will turn up. You just need to give off the illusion this club are as big as they ever were while we're waiting.

"So if you will just sign here, Mr Hiddink? Mr Hiddink? Mr Hiddink? Please don't slam the door, we've only just mended it from when Souness left...

"Valerie, get me Dalglish on the phone. Ask him if he would be kind enough to stop the fans from rioting, will you?"

Spot on that .

by **tubby** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:15 am

Boss article that Igor. Where are Saint and Bigmick? They were calling for Rafas head for so long and now he has gone they are not posting? I hope they at least read the above article.

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