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by **Emerald Red** » Fri May 21, 2010 4:54 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
bigmick wrote:It really is extremely unusual for a manager to get involved in another clubs decision about their new boss in the way Rafa did with Mourinho and Real Madrid, very strange indeed. I would have thought that seeing as Rafa has obviously pencilled in the Madrid job for himself at some point in his career, Mourinho going there now while they aren't that great and Barca are so dominant would have been his ideal scenario. The last thing he would need is following a manager who has been mega successful after all, the questions might be asked if he plummetted Madrid down to seventh in La Liga after six seasons of rebuilding.

Could it be that he is a bit wary that perhaps Mourinho will go in there and do a good job? Surely it's not possible for any manager to usurp Barcelona in their current pomp is it?

Rafa gets stranger and stranger as he gets older. Why is he comm enting on such matters, and how would the Liverpool fans react if Mourinho had said "Benitez isn't the right manager for Liverpool"? It beggars belief really.

Rafa Benitez has ONE bad season and comes 7th in the league admidst possibly the worst run board in the top tier and yet you either want to rewrite history, or want to omit his past achievements altogether? Short memory? Alzheimers setting in? F*ck knows.

Alternatively you could say hes had one GOOD season...?

Hardly. Rafa Benitez hasn't just managed LFC in his career, you know. One good season? You'd have to be a right clueless eejit to even state that.

by **bigmick** » Fri May 21, 2010 4:56 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
bigmick wrote:It really is extremely unusual for a manager to get involved in another clubs decision about their new boss in the way Rafa did with Mourinho and Real Madrid, very strange indeed. I would have thought that seeing as Rafa has obviously pencilled in the Madrid job for himself at some point in his career, Mourinho going there now while they aren't that great and Barca are so dominant would have been his ideal scenario. The last thing he would need is following a manager who has been mega successful after all, the questions might be asked if he plummetted Madrid down to seventh in La Liga after six seasons of rebuilding.

Could it be that he is a bit wary that perhaps Mourinho will go in there and do a good job? Surely it's not possible for any manager to usurp Barcelona in their current pomp is it?

Rafa gets stranger and stranger as he gets older. Why is he comm enting on such matters, and how would the Liverpool fans react if Mourinho had said "Benitez isn't the right manager for Liverpool"? It beggars belief really.

Rafa Benitez has ONE bad season and comes 7th in the league admidst possibly the worst run board in the top tier and yet you either want to rewrite history, or want to omit his past achievements altogether? Short memory? Alzheimers setting in? F*ck knows.

When you say "possibly the worst run board in the top tier" I'll give you that, with the notable exceptions of Pompey and West Ham. That said, he's obviously had more money to spend than 90% of the top tier managers, so the excuse only goes so far.

As for his "past achievements", well he did lead us to an astounding champions League success with a bunch of players who weren't that good, and we won the FA Cup while he was in charge too. We also challenged for the league title in one of the six seasons he's been at the helm. I didn't think those achievements were up for debate really, so I didn't put them in. Nor do I think it's up for debate that after six years of his rebuilding we have "progressed" down to seventh, but apparantly it is. You might be right, perhaps senility is setting in because to me it's fairly clear cut. Perhaps if it really is/was "one bad season" you are confident we'll catapult ourselves back into a challenging position under Benitez next season. If you are, then fair play. I'm only sorry I don't share your optimism. A new manager, and maybe. Benitez? Nah.

by **lakes10** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:16 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
kawaton wrote:Benitez hates Maureen, that much is obvious.
Maureen has taken Inter to successive La Liga titles, and potentially the CL.

If Benitez took over at Inter, not only would he be accepting a position that is effectively Maureen's cast off, but he has a bloody big task to follow those achievements.

Rafa wouldn't take the risk of coming second best to maureen.
He cares too much about his own pride.

When has Rafa publicly stated he hates Mourinho?

Everyone hates Mourinhio, the guys a plank

but dont forget that Rafa met up with JM last summer, they seemed to get on and spent 3hrs talking.

by **lakes10** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:18 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
bigmick wrote:It really is extremely unusual for a manager to get involved in another clubs decision about their new boss in the way Rafa did with Mourinho and Real Madrid, very strange indeed. I would have thought that seeing as Rafa has obviously pencilled in the Madrid job for himself at some point in his career, Mourinho going there now while they aren't that great and Barca are so dominant would have been his ideal scenario. The last thing he would need is following a manager who has been mega successful after all, the questions might be asked if he plummetted Madrid down to seventh in La Liga after six seasons of rebuilding.

Could it be that he is a bit wary that perhaps Mourinho will go in there and do a good job? Surely it's not possible for any manager to usurp Barcelona in their current pomp is it?

Rafa gets stranger and stranger as he gets older. Why is he comm enting on such matters, and how would the Liverpool fans react if Mourinho had said "Benitez isn't the right manager for Liverpool"? It beggars belief really.

Rafa Benitez has ONE bad season and comes 7th in the league admidst possibly the worst run board in the top tier and yet you either want to rewrite history, or want to omit his past achievements altogether? Short memory? Alzheimers setting in? F*ck knows.

ONE bad season???

oh sorry what did we win in the last 4 years then?

did i miss it?

by **lakes10** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:18 pm

anyway i am off out for the night, have fun.

by **kazza** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:38 pm

bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
bigmick wrote:It really is extremely unusual for a manager to get involved in another clubs decision about their new boss in the way Rafa did with Mourinho and Real Madrid, very strange indeed. I would have thought that seeing as Rafa has obviously pencilled in the Madrid job for himself at some point in his career, Mourinho going there now while they aren't that great and Barca are so dominant would have been his ideal scenario. The last thing he would need is following a manager who has been mega successful after all, the questions might be asked if he plummetted Madrid down to seventh in La Liga after six seasons of rebuilding.

Could it be that he is a bit wary that perhaps Mourinho will go in there and do a good job? Surely it's not possible for any manager to usurp Barcelona in their current pomp is it?

Rafa gets stranger and stranger as he gets older. Why is he comm enting on such matters, and how would the Liverpool fans react if Mourinho had said "Benitez isn't the right manager for Liverpool"? It beggars belief really.

Rafa Benitez has ONE bad season and comes 7th in the league admidst possibly the worst run board in the top tier and yet you either want to rewrite history, or want to omit his past achievements altogether? Short memory? Alzheimers setting in? F*ck knows.

When you say "possibly the worst run board in the top tier" I'll give you that, with the notable exceptions of Pompey and West Ham. That said, he's obviously had more money to spend than 90% of the top tier managers, so the excuse only goes so far.

As for his "past achievements", well he did lead us to an astounding champions League success with a bunch of players who weren't that good, and we won the FA Cup while he was in charge too. We also challenged for the league title in one of the six seasons he's been at the helm. I didn't think those achievements were up for debate really, so I didn't put them in. Nor do I think it's up for debate that after six years of his rebuilding we have "progressed" down to seventh, but apparantly it is. You might be right, perhaps senility is setting in because to me it's fairly clear cut. Perhaps if it really is/was "one bad season" you are confident we'll catapult ourselves back into a challenging position under Benitez next season. If you are, then fair play. I'm only sorry I don't share your optimism. A new manager, and maybe. Benitez? Nah.

Remember when Andy said you had lost the plot (even your mate S@int agreed) and you said "noted" well.... Obviously not. :;):

A long summer of bullsh!t me thinks :nod

by **kazza** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:49 pm

bigmick wrote:
Reg wrote:
kazza wrote:I went to a fight and a football discussion broke out.

Not in here mate.

Makes Baghdad look good for yer summer hol-ies this place....

Totally agree. As you walk in the door you have to step over wrist slashers, stalkers and nutters before you've even debated anything.

Obviously you are having a bad day and you have come here to instigate sh!t as usual. For someone who plays the victim all the time you certainly seem to crave as well as instigate the attention. You have mentioned "wrist-slashers and stalkers " over ten times without reply from me, sad really that you life seems so empty. Might I suggest a hobby!

We have not seen debate from you for years.

by **bigmick** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:07 pm

I'll bet a pound to a penny on that those last two posts mention me in them somewhere :laugh:

Incredible really.

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:11 pm

How about he pair of you just give it a rest and just don't even bother responding to each , put each other on ignore because your petty long running feud is both childish and embarrasing and adds nothing to the forum

by **bigmick** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:14 pm

Said without even a trace of irony :laugh:

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:22 pm

You don't even realise your causing problems - your blasting around the forum presently like your the most wronged person on here and everyone is against you and acting like a forum martyr yet your causing enough problems yourself . Off course will admit my ride on here is not smooth and have had barneys but at least willing to admit it. . It's obvious you and kazza don't get on but tour currently being as bad as each other .

by **NANNY RED** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:29 pm

Mouriniho said MY Liverpool , is a phenomanom .well it has and never will be your Liverpool. Whats has he got to do with commenting about us anyway , we havnt played them ,we havnt played against any of his teams , but its ok for him to sprout his mouth off . but when Rafa says anything about him hes the worst in the world by some of our fans, There wasnt much difference between Barca an Madrid last season , the title could of gone either way right down to the last game of the season as i remember , Pellagrino done a good job last season , So if and when Jose goes to Madrid its not gonna take a massive overhaul or massive change to actualy win la Liga, The superstars are already in place, Bit like Ancelottie at Chelsea ,

by **Fowler_E7** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:29 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:How about he pair of you just give it a rest and just don't even bother responding to each , put each other on ignore because your petty long running feud is both childish and embarrasing and adds nothing to the forum

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:31 pm

Great insightful input well done you

by **Fowler_E7** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:35 pm

bigmick wrote:It really is extremely unusual for a manager to get involved in another clubs decision about their new boss in the way Rafa did with Mourinho and Real Madrid, very strange indeed. I would have thought that seeing as Rafa has obviously pencilled in the Madrid job for himself at some point in his career, Mourinho going there now while they aren't that great and Barca are so dominant would have been his ideal scenario. The last thing he would need is following a manager who has been mega successful after all, the questions might be asked if he plummetted Madrid down to seventh in La Liga after six seasons of rebuilding.

Could it be that he is a bit wary that perhaps Mourinho will go in there and do a good job? Surely it's not possible for any manager to usurp Barcelona in their current pomp is it?

Rafa gets stranger and stranger as he gets older. Why is he comm enting on such matters, and how would the Liverpool fans react if Mourinho had said "Benitez isn't the right manager for Liverpool"? It beggars belief really.

i think you will find Mourihno is always talking about clubs and managers that have nothing to do with him, he's never afraid to give a soundbite or headline to the media whores that adore him.

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