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lakes10 wrote:

Penguins wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

Penguins wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

Ciggy wrote: The problem is, nobody at Liverpool is willing to guarantee him that any money he can raise through selling players will be reinvested in the team – nor is there any evidence that funds available from the board will be sufficient for the squad rebuilding that is urgently required.

How depressing, dreading next season   

no one can say there is money going to be at the club for any manager to spend, he might be asking for something he can not get, or they might just point to the 59 players he has taken to the club and say "are you say the ones you spent all the money on are no good"

in that case they have a fair point.

I just can't believe anyone really think that is the case.

So you are honestly saying the reason the board probably won't
spend a penny, even from sold players, would be Rafa's fault for his buying policy?

Not that we are skint or have owners that have shown their willingness to spend... not   
Unbelievable how ignorant attitude

I am saying that there might not be much money to spend


tell me the trurh.

look at the 59 players he has taken to this club........right now think about this.

say he gets the ok to buy 3 players.........do you have the confidence that he will buy the 3 best players for that money.......you will be asking him to do something that he has not been able to do before.

so far he has a 1-10 in getting it right.
the chance that he gets the next 3 buys right is 1-10....thats not good.

First of all counting freebies and youth players is a bit over top but that isn't the real issue.

The fact is a manager has to be supported to move forward.
Sure, there has been mistakes, but he has shown he can make excellent buys also. We are in desperate need of strenghtening our squad and Rafa is right now the manager and he needs to be shown faith otherwise you can't move forward. Even if some are of the opinion other managers might do better is irrelevant. If a manager isn't supported then he is just a lame duck and the club will only go one way. And he will stay.

The truth is we are leaking money like never before, the owners are over their eyeballs in debt everywhere and hasn't got a pot to in. They are in selling mode and want to add absolutely zero to the club at this moment and no matter what the expense might be the answer from them is a big fat no.

Even in the likelyhood if Inter Milan would get Rafa there is a snowballs chance in **** a new manager will get anything as long as the current vermin steers the ship.
You can take that to the bank and I'll stake what little reputation I have on it.

no mate i am not, if you count youth players he has taken 103 players to the club.....i am being kind to him.



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Waldo wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:Because of our diabolically disastrous season, the unrest among the players, the split among the fans, Rafas unwillingness to take responsibility, his desire to look for employment elsewhere and no sign of the owners leaving, I ask one question:
Is Rafas position now untenable?

I think his flirting with Juventus (and now possibly Inter) + his reluctance to meet with the Broughton suggest he is looking for a way out. Whether pushed or by "mutual consent"

kazza wrote:

andy_g wrote:if you don't like a point of view that's in opposition to yours then either ignore it

Physician, heal thy self 




When someone says "Rafa's plan is to nosedive the team into oblivion so that the following two seasons we can make slight improvement and then fans will be celebrating it as progress" you can only really reply by saying one thing..... CR@P! Which is basically what I said since there is no other reply really.

NANNY RED wrote:Breaking news on Sky about Rafa



























































Inter sporting director has just made a statement saying there has been absolutly NO contact what so ever with Rafa Benitez

Not true my mate told me he's been talking to them since Xmas   

NANNY RED wrote: was he dressed up as an elf an driving this an all 

bunglemark2 wrote:

NANNY RED wrote::laugh: was he dressed up as an elf an driving this an all 

Jaysus, if that was the only taxi available, at 2 a.m., in the pouring rain....I'd still prefer to walk !

an miss out on all the rumours an info about our club, our team and our manager, best janglin rumour monger in Liverpool that ride , you hear things in there even the players and Rafa no nothing about ,

NANNY RED wrote:

bunglemark2 wrote:

NANNY RED wrote::laugh: was he dressed up as an elf an driving this an all 

Jaysus, if that was the only taxi available, at 2 a.m., in the pouring rain....I'd still prefer to walk !

an miss out on all the rumours an info about our club, our team and our manager, best janglin rumour monger in Liverpool that ride , you hear things in there even the players and Rafa no nothing about ,

Well, maybe if Arteta was in it, I'd kidnap the little maggot and make him play for us 
I think he's a crackin' player...

Ben Patrick wrote:

kazza wrote:???  We are not talking about who finished above who. We are talking about what it takes to win the prem. Sure those teams finished above us but we had a worse than normal season, all other years did those teams finish above us? 

I am not expecting to win the premiership.

But i do expect us to challenge.
I dont expect our nearest rivals to be Everton and Villa and to be worryingly at times looking at Birminghams results.
I dont expect to get battered in a weakish champions league group, losing half of the games.
I dont expect to play Reading twice and be knocked out at home in the FA cup.

All these things add up.

You are using the fact that we havent as many 20 million pound players as an excuse to why we arent competing.
Well we have spent a sh!t load more than Birmingham and Everton over the years, yet they competed with us.