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by **leep33** » Sat May 01, 2010 8:40 am

It will be an interesting summer and if the takeover happen then i would not be suprised to see Mourinho in the managers chair.

by **metalhead** » Sat May 01, 2010 8:45 am

Although Mourinho is a class manager, I really don't want him

by **dawson99** » Sat May 01, 2010 8:48 am

Sir Roger wrote:Has anyone suggested Roy Hodgeson?

I've seen money for him here

by **metalhead** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:01 am

who said rafa is going anyways? its just a distraction once we complete the signings of David Villa, and David Silva

Heard that from a friend of a friend who happens to be a friend of a friend that is married to a his friend.

by **maguskwt** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:05 am

s@int wrote:
bavlondon wrote:His heart is with Liverpool thats for sure. Any other manager would have walked away by now. Rafa takes too much stick from the media too, he is too much of a nice guy.

Without their £16million Bav? I doubt that VERY much mate.

Did he leave when similar incidents with owners happened before he renewed his contract?

by **JBG** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:21 am

Looks like we're in for another round of Rafa Benitez posturing. :help

While I think that Rafa is a decent manager who mostly did a good job at Liverpool given the circumstances, his dealings with the club through the media in which he constantly played on the fans' fears of him leaving has left a very bitter taste in my mouth. Take whatever side you want on Rafa - and I have been largely pro Benitez - but you can't deny his whisperings, innuendo and double talk about his relationship with the owners over the past couple of years have not been the Liverpool way.

While I do believe that he has genuine affection for the club he is after all looking after his own back in all of this. I think he is buying some time with both Liverpool and Juventus by waiting and seeing whether new owners come in sooner rather than later and what their plans are. However, ultimately I feel that if Juve give him a take it or leave it offer he'll go to them, and to be honest about the matter, he'd be mad not to.

Theres a multitude of arguements for and against Rafa's management style, be it his team selections, rotations, tactics & absence of man management, but on balance I think Rafa brought more to the table here than people give him credit for.

However, ultimately Rafa made a lot of mistakes in the transfer market & at a club with limited resources, this is ultimately what has killed him. He gambled massively on the likes of Keane & Aqualani and both of these gambles didn't work out, and he'll have to live with these decisions.

by **Ben Patrick** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:28 am

Ciggy wrote:Cant believe this is the end just cant believe it, its feckin sad the way this has gone for everyone and I wish people would stop feckin gloating youve got what you want now, pack it in

Have you heard something ciggs ?

I wont be gloating if/when he goes, but i will think its for the best.

Thanks for all the effort and everything Rafa, thanks for Istanbul - the best night (football wise of my life)
Thanks for the FA cup knocking the mancs and Chelsea out on the way.

But things went wrong, and this season for me cant be written off as a blip.
Not enough was done my Rafa to change things when they clearly were not working.
He has seemed too stubborn and allowed this to cost us big time.
And make no mistake this could be a major major set back this season not qualifying for the champions league.

We are desperate to get new owners in asap, IF this can happen for me the first thing they need to do is say, Rafa you have had your chance but we are looking for a fresh start.
Get someone else in and get the players back up for it.
Fans can blame the players all they like for not being up for it etc etc.
If you dont believe in what you are doing its hard to be motivated.
I have done jobs in my own work where i have been told to do them and i dont agree with it at all, now while i still get on with it...i dont think i performed as well as i could of because my heart wasnt in it.

New man - new start, asap, simple as.

by **dawson99** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:29 am

Where does it say he's definately going???

by **Ben Patrick** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:40 am

dawson99 wrote:Where does it say he's definately going???

It doesnt mate.

My response was to ciggys....well you have all got what you want post.

by **Ciggy** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:46 am

Ben Patrick wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Where does it say he's definately going???

It doesnt mate.

My response was to ciggys....well you have all got what you want post.

The posting of sarcastic laughing smileys and the insults towards him p!ss me right off, the club is in absolute turmoil and people are gloating sitting there behind their pcs with a feckin big grin on their faces absolutly made up about him leaving.

I dont find it amusing none of it !!!!

unless we get a sugar daddy in and a world class manager we will be another Leeds in a season or two.

by **dawson99** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:47 am

Ciggy wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Where does it say he's definately going???

It doesnt mate.

My response was to ciggys....well you have all got what you want post.

The posting of sarcastic laughing smileys and the insults towards him p!ss me right off, the club is in absolute turmoil and people are gloating sitting there behind their pcs with a feckin big grin on their faces absolutly made up about him leaving.

I dont find it amusing none of it !!!!

unless we get a sugar daddy in and a world class manager we will be another Leeds in a season or two.

no we wont, we'll be ok. we'll get some financing, Rafa will stay, theres something in the works...

why would Reina have signed a new 5 year contract if he didnt know something?

by **Ciggy** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:50 am

dawson99 wrote:why would Reina have signed a new 5 year contract if he didnt know something?

Cech didnt leave when Mourhino left Reina loves liverpool thats why hes staying not because of Rafa.

Hearing MON & Woy feckin Hodgeson as Rafa's replacement fill me with dread :no

by **dawson99** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:53 am

Ciggy wrote:
dawson99 wrote:why would Reina have signed a new 5 year contract if he didnt know something?

Cech didnt leave when Mourhino left Reina loves liverpool thats why hes staying not because of Rafa.

Hearing MON & Woy feckin Hodgeson as Rafa's replacement fill me with dread

Cech not leaving Cheatski si different, they have Abramovich, Reina signed when we still had the kunts upstairs.

by **Ben Patrick** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:53 am

Ciggy wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Where does it say he's definately going???

It doesnt mate.

My response was to ciggys....well you have all got what you want post.

The posting of sarcastic laughing smileys and the insults towards him p!ss me right off, the club is in absolute turmoil and people are gloating sitting there behind their pcs with a feckin big grin on their faces absolutly made up about him leaving.

I dont find it amusing none of it !!!!

unless we get a sugar daddy in and a world class manager we will be another Leeds in a season or two.

Ignore the people like that ciggy.

I agree stuff like that isnt nice to see but its just like the divvy in the match or at the pub that shouts rubbish. They are in the minority.
Lots of fans want a change of manager now but are far from happy with it.
Myself, i have just come to accept that to move forwards (new owners or being stuck with those 2 tw@ts) we need a new manager regardless.
I dont agree that he has got the best out of what he has had.

I do agree that its been a ridiculous situation with his hands tied this last 18 months in the transfer market.
But he has got things horribly wrong and his stubborness and unwillingness to change things has cost us this season.

I dont see him changing and i think we are going backwards too quickly to allow things to go on.

I am certainly not happy and feel sorry for Rafa, he gave it his all. But i care more for the club and am genuinely concerned with how far backwards (the team..not the club) is going under his management.
The bracketed part was to highlight i think Rafa is taking the team backwards, and i KNOW the owners are taking the club backwards as well.

But we cant only blame the owners on whats gone on this season, to me thats making excuses for the manager.

by **Ciggy** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:56 am

Ben Patrick wrote:Have you heard something ciggs ?

Last week in madrid when Purslow was walking past the fans.

Liverpool fan - "Christian, are you going to get rid of these Yanks"
Purslow - "oh yes"
Liverpool fan - "and get them to take Rafa with them"
Purslow puts thumb up - "he's gone, he's gone"

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