RAFA BENITEZ LEAVES LIVERPOOL - Official Thread, includes merged threads
by account deleted by request » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:04 pm
dawson99 wrote:I'm back to beign pro Rafa lol
So you Igor and RBG have more than just the same political views in common then mate
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Owners own, managers manage – what about the MD?
Posted on April 29th, 2010 by Anfield Road
By Tom Wilson
“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques”
Having failed in his mandate to deliver investment to Liverpool Football Club, a nonfulfillment that resulted in him having his remit reduced and lead to the appointment of Martin Broughton and Barclays Capital, it appears that Christian Purslow is filling the gaps in his increasingly sparse schedule by meddling in areas that don’t concern him.
Despite being a lifelong supporter and long time season ticket holder, the Liverpool managing director has, on occasion, paid scant regard to Shankly’s famous “Holy Trinity” mantra.
To all intents and purposes, it appears that the Liverpool MD, when not desperately seeking the approval of certain senior members of the first team squad, is trying to desperately compensate for his demotion of sorts by both securing his position, satisfying his ego by painting himself as some kind of “Mr Liverpool” figure, whilst at the same time undermining the manager at every turn in a childish, narcissistic fit of pique.
Not happy with just having an unhealthy influence over big hitter and Daily Telegraph football correspondent Henry Winter, Christian is reputedly bending the collective ears of anyone with an outlet who’ll listen to his propaganda.
Propaganda which resulted in this piece by Sam Wallace and Mark Fleming in The Independent.
As if the seemingly deliberate timing of the article wasn’t bad enough – on the eve of Liverpool’s biggest game of the season – it also illustrates perfectly the delusions of grandeur of the former middle market equity boss, who it is believed was the source of the story.
Anfield Road has learned that whilst the club may very well be targeting Dutch midfielder Rafael Van Der Vaart, and indeed Real Madrid may have been approached already about the 27 year old, it has been without the knowledge, permission, or say-so of the first team manager or his staff.
These revelations initially came to light that last week in Madrid at the Vicente Calderon where Purslow was holding court with the various members of the press pack, boasting of a meeting with Florentino Perez, claiming that he had been offered “Van der Vaart and a striker”.
At that point in time the manager didn’t even know Purslow had been talking transfers with Real Madrid, he certainly hadn’t asked him to, yet Purslow saw no problems at all in broadcasting the news to the press. Benítez, as a result, is believed to feel both undermined and unnerved having inevitably been informed of such developments.
Whilst it may not be absolutely essential to have a “football background” to hold a senior position at a club, to actively interfere over the manager’s head on transfer policy is tantamount to treason and is a stunning dereliction of duty from a man who seems to revel in the status that his title bequeaths him.
“We need to have the owners own and the managers manage.”
- CP, SOS meeting minutes, 2nd February 2010.
Whether such indiscretions are part of a deliberate campaign to unsettle the manager, or merely the acts of a man desperate for the world to know his importance aren’t clear.
Although if it is the former, it would be without the blessing of the club’s owners who are desperate to keep the turbulence surrounding the club to an absolute minimum as they look for someone to stump up the best part of £500,000,000 to take the club out of their hands.
If it is the latter, then he at least should know that no man is bigger than the club, no board member is bigger than the manager, and needs to learn the meaning of the word decorum.
Having appointed Broughton, who is yet to meet Benítez, chiefly in an effort to break deadlock at boardroom level in order to sell the club, the last thing that Liverpool and its owners need is a war of attrition between its manager and managing director.
There is little doubt that Christian Purslow is a Liverpool fan and came into the club with the best intentions, in all probability giving up a much better paid job to do so, to land one which every Liverpool fan in the country is convinced they could do.
Therein lies the issue
A fan cannot run a football club, indeed, the evidence of such catastrophes are scattered down the leagues; essentially it’s the ultimate poisoned chalice as logic and reason go out of the window.
It may very well be his perceived raison d’être that has blinded him somewhat, stripped away the cold-eyed professionalism that is required to run a club the size of Liverpool FC.
There is no doubt that in his heart he only wants the best for the club, but if he steps back and takes stock, his head may tell him the best thing for the club would be for him to step down, thus helping achieve the aim in what he set out to do in the first place.
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Posted on April 29th, 2010 by Anfield Road
By Tom Wilson
“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques”
Having failed in his mandate to deliver investment to Liverpool Football Club, a nonfulfillment that resulted in him having his remit reduced and lead to the appointment of Martin Broughton and Barclays Capital, it appears that Christian Purslow is filling the gaps in his increasingly sparse schedule by meddling in areas that don’t concern him.
Despite being a lifelong supporter and long time season ticket holder, the Liverpool managing director has, on occasion, paid scant regard to Shankly’s famous “Holy Trinity” mantra.
To all intents and purposes, it appears that the Liverpool MD, when not desperately seeking the approval of certain senior members of the first team squad, is trying to desperately compensate for his demotion of sorts by both securing his position, satisfying his ego by painting himself as some kind of “Mr Liverpool” figure, whilst at the same time undermining the manager at every turn in a childish, narcissistic fit of pique.
Not happy with just having an unhealthy influence over big hitter and Daily Telegraph football correspondent Henry Winter, Christian is reputedly bending the collective ears of anyone with an outlet who’ll listen to his propaganda.
Propaganda which resulted in this piece by Sam Wallace and Mark Fleming in The Independent.
As if the seemingly deliberate timing of the article wasn’t bad enough – on the eve of Liverpool’s biggest game of the season – it also illustrates perfectly the delusions of grandeur of the former middle market equity boss, who it is believed was the source of the story.
Anfield Road has learned that whilst the club may very well be targeting Dutch midfielder Rafael Van Der Vaart, and indeed Real Madrid may have been approached already about the 27 year old, it has been without the knowledge, permission, or say-so of the first team manager or his staff.
These revelations initially came to light that last week in Madrid at the Vicente Calderon where Purslow was holding court with the various members of the press pack, boasting of a meeting with Florentino Perez, claiming that he had been offered “Van der Vaart and a striker”.
At that point in time the manager didn’t even know Purslow had been talking transfers with Real Madrid, he certainly hadn’t asked him to, yet Purslow saw no problems at all in broadcasting the news to the press. Benítez, as a result, is believed to feel both undermined and unnerved having inevitably been informed of such developments.
Whilst it may not be absolutely essential to have a “football background” to hold a senior position at a club, to actively interfere over the manager’s head on transfer policy is tantamount to treason and is a stunning dereliction of duty from a man who seems to revel in the status that his title bequeaths him.
“We need to have the owners own and the managers manage.”
- CP, SOS meeting minutes, 2nd February 2010.
Whether such indiscretions are part of a deliberate campaign to unsettle the manager, or merely the acts of a man desperate for the world to know his importance aren’t clear.
Although if it is the former, it would be without the blessing of the club’s owners who are desperate to keep the turbulence surrounding the club to an absolute minimum as they look for someone to stump up the best part of £500,000,000 to take the club out of their hands.
If it is the latter, then he at least should know that no man is bigger than the club, no board member is bigger than the manager, and needs to learn the meaning of the word decorum.
Having appointed Broughton, who is yet to meet Benítez, chiefly in an effort to break deadlock at boardroom level in order to sell the club, the last thing that Liverpool and its owners need is a war of attrition between its manager and managing director.
There is little doubt that Christian Purslow is a Liverpool fan and came into the club with the best intentions, in all probability giving up a much better paid job to do so, to land one which every Liverpool fan in the country is convinced they could do.
Therein lies the issue
A fan cannot run a football club, indeed, the evidence of such catastrophes are scattered down the leagues; essentially it’s the ultimate poisoned chalice as logic and reason go out of the window.
It may very well be his perceived raison d’être that has blinded him somewhat, stripped away the cold-eyed professionalism that is required to run a club the size of Liverpool FC.
There is no doubt that in his heart he only wants the best for the club, but if he steps back and takes stock, his head may tell him the best thing for the club would be for him to step down, thus helping achieve the aim in what he set out to do in the first place.
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by red_guy » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:37 pm
bavlondon wrote:To be honest Rafa isn't the best in the transfer market. OK he has been limited in funds but I think we should have a director of football for transfers.
I don't think Rafa would agree with that, if he's still here next season.
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by LFC ANIME » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:14 am
rocky29 wrote:LFC ANIME wrote:If rafa was to leave LFC. Who would he take with him? He loves Kuyt, so him. Ne1 else?
he cud take kuyt lucas babbel insua maxi ezhlar ngog.
Out of those I'd keep Maxi. Benny has his moments but hes not quick or strong enough. I think Kuyt,Babel,Riera,Benny will leave. Meaning all our not so wingers are gone. Bring Turan he was voted most popular euro footballer of 2009!
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by Kopite-Jud » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:41 am
I like what Benitez has done for us over the years, don't get me wrong, i thank him for what he has dont but this season has been the final straw, the players he's bought and the decision making is appauling. From the dodgy subs, the Alonso saga and the players that have been in (Lucas? El Zhar? Ngog? Babel? Dossena?) and the players that have been allowed to leave (Alonso, Cisse, Crouch, Bellamy, Keane,Riise?) all solid players with the ability to change a game! and watching Johnson at leftback and Mascerano at right back (THEN TAKING HIM OFF)is beyond me.
im a loyal fan don't get me wrong, but it kills me to see this happening
im just being realistic
Adios Rafa
im a loyal fan don't get me wrong, but it kills me to see this happening
im just being realistic
Adios Rafa
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by tubby » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:45 am
Only 2 games left to go till the end of the season. I reckon if he was going to go he would make a statement before the weekend so he could have a farewell at Anfield. Sounds a bit silly I know but after Istanbul he will always be etched into the history of this club so I couldn't see him leaving without saying goodbye to the fans properly.
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by LFC ANIME » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:50 am
bavlondon wrote:Only 2 games left to go till the end of the season. I reckon if he was going to go he would make a statement before the weekend so he could have a farewell at Anfield. Sounds a bit silly I know but after Istanbul he will always be etched into the history of this club so I couldn't see him leaving without saying goodbye to the fans properly.
After the game just finished earlier in the night I was thinking he would make a statement Sunday night. Think of it, last home game of the season, all the board will be there.
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by PabloAimar » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:51 am
bavlondon wrote:Only 2 games left to go till the end of the season. I reckon if he was going to go he would make a statement before the weekend so he could have a farewell at Anfield. Sounds a bit silly I know but after Istanbul he will always be etched into the history of this club so I couldn't see him leaving without saying goodbye to the fans properly.
This is rafa we're talking about. When has his decision making ever been rational?!
we've only won it 5 times
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by LFC2007 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:55 am
Just a feeling but I don't think he'll be here next season. With tonight's loss being the last real opportunity to salvage something meaningful from the season I think something has to give and probably will give, and that's the manager, however an arrangement is reached; whether he resigns, is sacked, and whether he reaches a compromise or is lured by another club.
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by LFC ANIME » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:01 am
LFC2007 wrote:Just a feeling but I don't think he'll be here next season. With tonight's loss being the last real opportunity to salvage something meaningful from the season I think something has to give and probably will give, and that's the manager, however an arrangement is reached; whether he resigns, is sacked, and whether he reaches a compromise or is lured by another club.
Board is looking to force him out to Juve cos they will pay Rafa's contract condition. Even they said they won't stand in his way. If the time comes. Sky Sports News will be all about LFC this summer.
Don't think Jose will join us, he'll go to Real. I don't want MON, he's getting on abit. Some1 young and be a lil wee more motivated and ain't scared to show it
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by Greavesie » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:27 am
This club is more attractive to potential investors if they can pick their manager. I'm not advocating Rafa leaving btw I'm honestly torn on that issue now. He's got my support whether its with Liverpool or not, if he goes to Juve I hope he kicks Jose's @rse
It will seriously be a sad day when he does go and if any fecker shows disrespect on that day I'll be seriously p!ssed off
It's been bizarre the last few seasons but before the Yanks were here I honestly think we were moving forward. I dont know if it's him thats took us backwards or the Yanks but the evidence suggests the Yanks. I'd be willing to give the man another season but only if the ownership changes, if not then sadly he cannot cope and thats the end of it IMO
Whoever comes and goes, this club will ALWAYS live on. Support it, be together in victory and together in defeat.
It will seriously be a sad day when he does go and if any fecker shows disrespect on that day I'll be seriously p!ssed off
It's been bizarre the last few seasons but before the Yanks were here I honestly think we were moving forward. I dont know if it's him thats took us backwards or the Yanks but the evidence suggests the Yanks. I'd be willing to give the man another season but only if the ownership changes, if not then sadly he cannot cope and thats the end of it IMO
Whoever comes and goes, this club will ALWAYS live on. Support it, be together in victory and together in defeat.
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