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by **burjennio** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:47 pm

metalhead wrote:FFS you guys get a f*cking hold of yourselves! 2nd game of the season and everyone is blaming the manager! jeez... wtf?!?!?!?!

Blaming the coach m8 because in my opinion his set up for the game was a poor one, Im not gonna start saying Roy out or using a defeat to blatter on about the ex-manager but 442 is a system that has come in for alot of scrutiny recently, because of its ineffectiveness against a strong team who play with 5 in midfield. To add to that, Im sure most of the team that started tonight would have been more comfortable setting up in a 4231 that we've played every match so far this season, not to mention most of the last 3 years under the previous coach. For me there was no value in this choice and now we've took a hiding against one of our top 4 rivals in a game where every Liverpool player has looked lost to what he was supposed to be doing. I just hope Roy is a big enough man to admit that he got it wrong tonight so we arn't having this same debate when we play the Mancs in a few weeks time.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:47 pm

Greavesie wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Can you imagine Rafa setting out that formation away from home against City and the team playing as they have, getting done 3-0? He'd be getting slaughtered right now. I wonder will Andy Gray be sucking Roy's balls after this and still be praising the system, which is quiet literally redundant in the modern game. We got swamped in the midfield from the outset.

someone remind he where we finished in the league in Rafa's first season.

you've set yourself up here Kewell

Rafa won the CL in his first season and then improved in the league and got CL football in all of the seasons we were here (bar his last)

no i haven't lad, IN THE LEAGUE we were awful..5th place we finished and struggled to get results against the likes of HULL.

by **The Raven** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:48 pm

Reg wrote:I'm stuck in the office lads........... are we winning yet?

No but pach is on............with 3 minutes left!

by **Zidane** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:48 pm

Lucas isn't good enough people, it is so blatant and it makes the decision to loan out Aqua even more mind boggling. I don't know the extent of his injuries but Lucas? Really? He is so average it's not even funny.

by **mart** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:48 pm

Redtribe wrote:You can't blame the manager for the lack of quality out there and the fact that some players seem to be pretty lack lustre!

You can blame him for doing nothing while we are beeing overrun in the midfield.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:48 pm

metalhead wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Fauxy wrote:Do us a favour and wait until we have played at least 20 matches before you spout sh!t like that.

You cant judge the bloke yet, the feckin transfer window hasnt even closed!

Im judging him on the formation we played against Arsenal and tonight 4-4-2 when in reality it was 10-1 like he set his teams up in the past, he is way out of his debt, cant believe he said he hopes we wont be in for a 6-0 thrashing before kick off.

well at least he doesn't ''guarantee'' top 4

he hasn't maed a t"t of himself either, which Rafa did on a regular basis. FACT :laugh:

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:49 pm

Yes Hodgson should be given time but go and read the predictions thread and people are talking about winning the title and easily getting into the CL spots above teams like city spurs and arsenal yet we are already falling behind those guys and look at the results - we are only missing one player and have no creativity at all and don't have any to bring in . Maybe people will realise their expectations are a little high and lower them to more realistic standards that fit our situation .

by **Fauxy** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:49 pm

sgs wrote:
Fauxy wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:feck off you tedious tw@t. Call yourself a fan? How many fans ENJOY watching their team lose, just so they can have cheap digs at the new manager. eh?

All them in the ground apparently.

Tedious tw@t? no dont think so, just being honest that Roy is not good enough to be our manager end of.

Do us a favour and wait until we have played at least 20 matches before you spout sh!t like that.

You cant judge the bloke yet, the feckin transfer window hasnt even closed!

U dont need 20 games to tell we were setup wrong for this match and never could figure it out for 90mins.

Hodgson is an average manager who should've been left to earn his pension at Fulham not saddled with the responsibilty of managing a top club...

Average Manager?

Ive never heard of an Average manager that has managed Inter Milan and then nearly won the Europa cup with a side that was fighting for relegation a season earlier.

And yes the setup for this match was wrong. Im saying wait 20 games before you judge him as manager, not how he sets the team up.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:49 pm

Greavesie wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:I always thought Liverpool fans were witty, knowledgeable and patient. Or at least, we used to be.

but he has no money at his disposal so what can he really do?

thats an excuse for rafa, doesnt apply to Roy.

it always applied, though some want to see that as the issue now, thats all

it only became an issue after a couple of 20million flops and poor sales.

by **Greavesie** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:49 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Can you imagine Rafa setting out that formation away from home against City and the team playing as they have, getting done 3-0? He'd be getting slaughtered right now. I wonder will Andy Gray be sucking Roy's balls after this and still be praising the system, which is quiet literally redundant in the modern game. We got swamped in the midfield from the outset.

someone remind he where we finished in the league in Rafa's first season.

you've set yourself up here Kewell

Rafa won the CL in his first season and then improved in the league and got CL football in all of the seasons we were here (bar his last)

no i haven't lad, IN THE LEAGUE we were awful..5th place we finished and struggled to get results against the likes of HULL.

Hull were in the prem in Rafa's first season?

look, he gave us the Champions League for Christ sake, how do you think Roy would fare in that competition?

You'd have sacked Rafa for his league finish in his first season

Top 4 for a club like Liverpool isn't something that should be talked about, it should be expected, a minimum - Rafa won the competition that every team strives to get into

by **bunglemark2** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:50 pm

johnson giving the ball straight back to them again....it's a fookin' RB we need as well...

by **Ciggy** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:50 pm

7_Kewell wrote:it dismays me at some of the 'fans' on here...one guy who claimed he would give up supporting our club...one girl who enjoys watching us lose...these are glory fans people...they are fine during the good times, but they fook off when the going gets tough.

who feckin enjoys us losing you stupid gobsh!te, I hate losing, Im telling you your beloved Roy is not good enough to manage our club, what dont you understand about that?

rafas time was up but the job vacancy should not have been given to Hodgson and thats the truth so deal with it.
And how fecking dare you, give up being a Liverpool fan I was born in Liverpool 5 Im a scouser we dont turn our backs on our clubs like knobheads like you 38 fecking years dont you dare tell me Im a glory hunter Ive been through hell and back with MY club a club that you have no clue about. Now feck off

by **haps** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:50 pm

Raoul wrote:
haps wrote:Where's our fairy godmother with the bag of cash? Please let someone very very rich buy us soon. Football is about nothing but money now. The game's soulless and mercenary and we may as well get some cash and get with the programme or it's down and down for us. I know I said that it's early days and we need to wait and see what happens over the season .. and we DO. But watching Manchester f**king City, ffs, toy with us tonight has been a real wake-up call and I'm a little in shock here. We need money fast. Or we are gone as a force in English football.

I know how you feel, I think you're overacting a little, but I know how you feel...

Funny thing is I'm an actor and have been accused of overacting before.

But yeah ... maybe over-reacting a bit. This result just hurts. I'm starting to really struggle watching football these days. I hate all the money and greed.

by **Fauxy** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:51 pm

Ah Newkit has become an online anger vent for liverpool fans again.

Clear sign the season has begun

by **tubby** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:51 pm

Roy or no Roy this team needed a major overhaul this summer and we haven't had that.

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