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by **tonyeh** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:23 pm

s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
puroresu wrote:The team today and the bench says it all. We have far too many poor to average players at the club.

That team put out was well capable, so don't be under any illusions that it wasn't. The first half proved that. For some inexplicable reason, they lost their balls in the second half. Just a series of individual errors that let them back into the match and some of these lot just didn't know how to deal with it. F*ckin gobshytes. The ref went a bit mental with those red cards. You always knew that after the United game that if Carra even made the same kind of error, or even slipped and trailed a player down by mistake, that he'd be instantly red carded. The refs in this league have no f*cking balls, and never have.

We seemed to give up as soon as Torres went off (injury or rafa? ) who knows why !

True. I noticed. That's the million dollar question. There are sometimes you can see why and it's obvious, but that has me baffled. The silly b@stard should know better, because as soon as he makes a decision like this, it's going to be blown into catastropic proportions if it goes t*ts up, which it did.

To be fair (and I am no Rafa lover) Torres wasn't having a good game apart from his goal, and was taking a lot of heavy punishment. I don't think the team should have buckled like they did.

Yeh, but taking him off Saint completely destroyed the team and taking off the others couldn't have done anything for the team either.

If I was on the pitch and saw the manager making those decisions I would have given up too.

If the gaffer doesn't give a fuck about making a go for the Premiership, why should I?

by **Avi Cohen** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:23 pm

puroresu wrote:
ruskiy playmaker wrote:
puroresu wrote:Mascherano and Lucas in midfield is a joke. It makes us so pedestrian when we have the ball as they never look to hit a forward pass 1st.

Bullsh!t, I remember Lucas made a lot of good forward passes today, our forwards just wasted them.

I'm not saying he didnt. What I'm saying is a forward pass is not the 1st thing either look for. Far too often they play sideways when a forward pass is on. Neither have a great range of passing and we suffer because of it.

I agree. Time and time again, the boys receive the ball in the middle and their instinct is to turn back to our goal.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:23 pm

s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
puroresu wrote:The team today and the bench says it all. We have far too many poor to average players at the club.

That team put out was well capable, so don't be under any illusions that it wasn't. The first half proved that. For some inexplicable reason, they lost their balls in the second half. Just a series of individual errors that let them back into the match and some of these lot just didn't know how to deal with it. F*ckin gobshytes. The ref went a bit mental with those red cards. You always knew that after the United game that if Carra even made the same kind of error, or even slipped and trailed a player down by mistake, that he'd be instantly red carded. The refs in this league have no f*cking balls, and never have.

We seemed to give up as soon as Torres went off (injury or rafa? ) who knows why !

True. I noticed. That's the million dollar question. There are sometimes you can see why and it's obvious, but that has me baffled. The silly b@stard should know better, because as soon as he makes a decision like this, it's going to be blown into catastropic proportions if it goes t*ts up, which it did.

To be fair (and I am no Rafa lover) Torres wasn't having a good game apart from his goal, and was taking a lot of heavy punishment. I don't think the team should have buckled like they did.

Was thinking the exact same thing, S@int, but I just couldn't be bolloxed writing that for fear of the wrath of the plebians. Torres was having a bit of a stinker, but it seems that unless your Alex Ferguson, you can't sub the best striker in the world for being sh*t on the day, otherwise you'll get murdered for it.

Edit - however, in saying that, even if Fernando was playing sh*t, he can still grab a goal out of nowhere, which he did.

by **Dazzer** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:24 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Dazzer wrote:I take Hodgson over rafa atm ffs.

We know that thats why I am glad when we slip out the top 4 you will be a insert name *fan*

I think he is good manager he knows our league inside out and he don't flap under pressure.

by **Bammo** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:24 pm

Our plan B still seems to be hoof it long for Crouch to win the header. There's something wrong with that but I can't quite work out what it is.....

by **Dazzer** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:25 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
puroresu wrote:The team today and the bench says it all. We have far too many poor to average players at the club.

That team put out was well capable, so don't be under any illusions that it wasn't. The first half proved that. For some inexplicable reason, they lost their balls in the second half. Just a series of individual errors that let them back into the match and some of these lot just didn't know how to deal with it. F*ckin gobshytes. The ref went a bit mental with those red cards. You always knew that after the United game that if Carra even made the same kind of error, or even slipped and trailed a player down by mistake, that he'd be instantly red carded. The refs in this league have no f*cking balls, and never have.

We seemed to give up as soon as Torres went off (injury or rafa? ) who knows why !

True. I noticed. That's the million dollar question. There are sometimes you can see why and it's obvious, but that has me baffled. The silly b@stard should know better, because as soon as he makes a decision like this, it's going to be blown into catastropic proportions if it goes t*ts up, which it did.

To be fair (and I am no Rafa lover) Torres wasn't having a good game apart from his goal, and was taking a lot of heavy punishment. I don't think the team should have buckled like they did.

Was thinking the exact same thing, S@int, but I just couldn't be bolloxed writing that for fear of the wrath of the plebians. Torres was having a bit of a stinker, but it seems that unless your Alex Ferguson, you can't sub the best striker in the world for being sh*t on the day, otherwise you'll get murdered for it.

Edit - however, in saying that, even if Fernando was playing sh*t, he can still grab a goal out of nowhere, which he did.

I won't give you any stick for supporting him mate thats your right as a fan.

I just don't like being attacked by some members like I am cos I have had enough of Rafa we all have right to voice what we think with out getting attacked for it. :nod

by **puroresu** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:26 pm

s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
puroresu wrote:The team today and the bench says it all. We have far too many poor to average players at the club.

That team put out was well capable, so don't be under any illusions that it wasn't. The first half proved that. For some inexplicable reason, they lost their balls in the second half. Just a series of individual errors that let them back into the match and some of these lot just didn't know how to deal with it. F*ckin gobshytes. The ref went a bit mental with those red cards. You always knew that after the United game that if Carra even made the same kind of error, or even slipped and trailed a player down by mistake, that he'd be instantly red carded. The refs in this league have no f*cking balls, and never have.

We seemed to give up as soon as Torres went off (injury or rafa? ) who knows why !

True. I noticed. That's the million dollar question. There are sometimes you can see why and it's obvious, but that has me baffled. The silly b@stard should know better, because as soon as he makes a decision like this, it's going to be blown into catastropic proportions if it goes t*ts up, which it did.

To be fair (and I am no Rafa lover) Torres wasn't having a good game apart from his goal, and was taking a lot of heavy punishment. I don't think the team should have buckled like they did.

With the strikers we have we have no luxury to take off Torres even when his playing badly. The replacements are nowhere near the required level to come in for torres. I have no issue with taking off players who are not performing but the facts are we have a shocking group of strikers.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:26 pm

tonyeh wrote:
s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
puroresu wrote:The team today and the bench says it all. We have far too many poor to average players at the club.

That team put out was well capable, so don't be under any illusions that it wasn't. The first half proved that. For some inexplicable reason, they lost their balls in the second half. Just a series of individual errors that let them back into the match and some of these lot just didn't know how to deal with it. F*ckin gobshytes. The ref went a bit mental with those red cards. You always knew that after the United game that if Carra even made the same kind of error, or even slipped and trailed a player down by mistake, that he'd be instantly red carded. The refs in this league have no f*cking balls, and never have.

We seemed to give up as soon as Torres went off (injury or rafa? ) who knows why !

True. I noticed. That's the million dollar question. There are sometimes you can see why and it's obvious, but that has me baffled. The silly b@stard should know better, because as soon as he makes a decision like this, it's going to be blown into catastropic proportions if it goes t*ts up, which it did.

To be fair (and I am no Rafa lover) Torres wasn't having a good game apart from his goal, and was taking a lot of heavy punishment. I don't think the team should have buckled like they did.

Yeh, but taking him off Saint completely destroyed the team and taking off the others couldn't have done anything for the team either.

If I was on the pitch and saw the manager making those decisions I would have given up too.

If the gaffer doesn't give a fuck about making a go for the Premiership, why should I?

One could argue that Dirk Kuyt's moment of stupidy lead to the complete capitulation of the side. From that moment on, everything went horrifically wrong.

by **Dazzer** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:26 pm

Bammo wrote:Our plan B still seems to be hoof it long for Crouch to win the header. There's something wrong with that but I can't quite work out what it is.....

Thats why we losing then because we don't have crouch any more. :laugh:

by **RobinHood6969** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:27 pm

Well i have always backed rafa..But he blew it up today...Voronator should have been taken off instead of yossi.. Obvious thing to do...and did he substitue witha defender? no..with a young reserve winger :no

by **Kash_Mountain** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:27 pm

Dazzer wrote:
Bammo wrote:Our plan B still seems to be hoof it long for Crouch to win the header. There's something wrong with that but I can't quite work out what it is.....

Thats why we losing then because we don't have crouch any more.

Voronin' pony tail looks more lethal in the 6 yard box.....

by **JoeTerp** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:28 pm

aCe' wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:There wasn't a manager on this earth that would have lead us to a victory today.

Why not ?

because the players played poorly, and Fulham took their chances

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:28 pm

The performance was O.K in the first half but once Torres came off they took over. Torres was playing with a pain killing injection so he was never going to play the 90 minutes. But we bought on a replacement that cost us £11Mil and he looked useless, and that’s were the problem lies when it comes to Rafa. Taking Torres off was understandable considering his injury but taking Benayoun off was ridiculous.

The owners must be considering how long they can keep faith with Rafa and a bad result on Wednesday away against a very good side will probably see us out of the Champions League. There is a lot wrong at this club from the very bottom right to the top and whether we change managers or not we are in for a tough few years.

We had 5/6 first team players out today and we simply don’t have the quality in depth to cope with that many injuries. But we had 2 players who cost a total of £18mil that look useless and a bunch of our best youngsters who are simply not good enough to play at this level.

Our best 18 would look something like this and that many injuries would hurt every team in the premiership.

Reina

Johnson Carragher Agger Aurelio

Masch Aquilani

Benayoun Gerrard Riera

Torres

Subs: Ngog, Kuyt, Babel, Lucas, Insua, Skrtel, Cavalieri

by **red37** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:28 pm

Sly Sports Game of the f*ckin day...... :glare:

what a surprise.

Think i'll pass on this one and load up me Xbox.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:28 pm

Dazzer wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Dazzer wrote:I take Hodgson over rafa atm ffs.

We know that thats why I am glad when we slip out the top 4 you will be a insert name *fan*

I think he is good manager he knows our league inside out and he don't flap under pressure.

Ohhhhhhhhhh great stuff Rafa OUT ~!!!! Roy Hodgens in :buttrock

Unbelievable.

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