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I see the mancs have joined in with the support Rafa thing from Rawk. They want us to keep Rafa tooRed cafe I WONDER WHY

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Thanks for that article Nan... And pls don't delete it, there has been too many of the bad taste articles like winter's being posted on here and taken/ refered to as gospel...

Winters article wasn't posted by me mate, it was Reg posted that...... you know the one that complains about all the sh!te 

[Owzat]

Do hate the way referring to past greats "turning in their grave" or what they would have done is spouted as if that changes anything. Rafa isn't any of them, I don't name them in this sentence because to me that's an insult to the great names I could name. Football is different, those greats might have found it hard going for all we know. Sure they assembled great sides, but half of them had the big name of Liverpool to attract footballers when that counted for more than money, now money calls the shots. As for what they would or wouldn't do to win a trophy, again it would depend. Sure if they were competing for all trophies season after season they would, but if they had to sacrifice a tin pot to make sure they could win the big prize the next season then I wouldn't be too sure they'd not sacrifice the tin pot - that said their side would be many times better so that wouldn't have been an issue, but that's no never mind to some on here who bring in their "big guns" as if it proves something

EDIT : and what perhaps annoys me most if the people who now mention Shanks, Paisley, Dalglish with regular monotony to try and prove a point have probably mentioned them more times than in ther previous 10 years - what does that say about them......................................

[maguskwt]

Thanks for that article Nan... And pls don't delete it, there has been too many of the bad taste articles like winter's being posted on here and taken/ refered to as gospel...

Winters article wasn't posted by me mate, it was Reg posted that...... you know the one that complains about all the sh!te 

I don't know who's posting what article on here anymore... but didn't say it was all by you [email]s@int...[/email] 

[maguskwt]

Oh btw... forgot to add.. F U Purslow... I thought you were better than that clown Parry... and Rafa trusted you...

[Reg]

Thanks for that article Nan... And pls don't delete it, there has been too many of the bad taste articles like winter's being posted on here and taken/ refered to as gospel...

Winters article wasn't posted by me mate, it was Reg posted that...... you know the one that complains about all the sh!te 

Ahh but my shíte is better than your shíte !     

[Rockthekop]

I see the mancs have joined in with the support Rafa thing from Rawk. They want us to keep Rafa tooRed cafe I WONDER WHY

If your biggest rivals are backing your manager then you know you've got the wrong man.  We are the joke of the country, the club is in a mess and they still don't know how to sack a manager who's not up to the job.

[maguskwt]

I see the mancs have joined in with the support Rafa thing from Rawk. They want us to keep Rafa tooRed cafe I WONDER WHY

If your biggest rivals are backing your manager then you know you've got the wrong man.  We are the joke of the country, the club is in a mess and they still don't know how to sack a manager who's not up to job.

That's a ridiculous and cynical notion to have...

[Ben Patrick]

I see the mancs have joined in with the support Rafa thing from Rawk. They want us to keep Rafa tooRed cafe I WONDER WHY

If your biggest rivals are backing your manager then you know you've got the wrong man.  We are the joke of the country, the club is in a mess and they still don't know how to sack a manager who's not up to job.

That's a ridiculous and cynical notion to have...

I dont get what you mean ?

My mates who are blues want Rafa to stay, and they want this because they can see that he is doing a poor job and we are better than what we are achieving under him.

[lakes10]

theres another report from Rafas agent saying that the talk have gone well with liverpool.


come on, Rafa can not be the manager here next year, he is two faced and slags the club off to the press all the time.

[woof woof !]

Rafa can not be the manager here next year, he is two faced and slags the club off to the press all the time.

Whether you want Rafa here next season or not is worthy of debate BUT "Slags the club off blah blah blah" has lost me

Explain

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I think if Rafa is to stay we should bring in a director of football (Dalglish or equivolent). Let Rafa get on with doing what he does best, coaching, and leave the signing of players to someone who is good at it. Rafa has surrounded himself with "yes men" since the two Paco's left. We need someone that he WILL LISTEN TO.  No matter how good or bad you are as a manager there are always times when someone needs to stand up and say I think you are wrong...... something I don't think happens anymore at Liverpool, at least not without being moved on rather quickly.

[account deleted by request]

Do hate the way referring to past greats "turning in their grave" or what they would have done is spouted as if that changes anything. Rafa isn't any of them, I don't name them in this sentence because to me that's an insult to the great names I could name. Football is different, those greats might have found it hard going for all we know. Sure they assembled great sides, but half of them had the big name of Liverpool to attract footballers when that counted for more than money, now money calls the shots. As for what they would or wouldn't do to win a trophy, again it would depend. Sure if they were competing for all trophies season after season they would, but if they had to sacrifice a tin pot to make sure they could win the big prize the next season then I wouldn't be too sure they'd not sacrifice the tin pot - that said their side would be many times better so that wouldn't have been an issue, but that's no never mind to some on here who bring in their "big guns" as if it proves something

EDIT : and what perhaps annoys me most if the people who now mention Shanks, Paisley, Dalglish with regular monotony to try and prove a point have probably mentioned them more times than in ther previous 10 years - what does that say about them......................................

Shanks and Bob would be turning in their graves if they heard you saying that 

[Ben Patrick]

I think if Rafa is to stay we should bring in a director of football (Dalglish or equivolent). Let Rafa get on with doing what he does best, coaching, and leave the signing of players to someone who is good at it. Rafa has surrounded himself with "yes men" since the two Paco's left. We need someone that he WILL LISTEN TO.  No matter how good or bad you are as a manager there are always times when someone needs to stand up and say I think you are wrong...... something I don't think happens anymore at Liverpool, at least not without being moved on rather quickly.

Just reading Brian Cloughs book and he says the same thing.
He has Peter Taylor as his number 2 and said that it was Peter that spotted the players and recommended most of them.
He said managers are stubborn and will think they are always right, and that you need a good number 2 that is prepared to give their opinion if they think the manager is doing something wrong.

Didnt do too bad old cloughie either.

[woof woof !]

I think if Rafa is to stay we should bring in a director of football (Dalglish or equivolent). Let Rafa get on with doing what he does best, coaching, and leave the signing of players to someone who is good at it. Rafa has surrounded himself with "yes men" since the two Paco's left. We need someone that he WILL LISTEN TO.  No matter how good or bad you are as a manager there are always times when someone needs to stand up and say I think you are wrong...... something I don't think happens anymore at Liverpool, at least not without being moved on rather quickly.

Maybe I really am getting to old for this sh'it, cliches I understand even though they don't actually enlighten me .

Maybe you could add a bit more substance ?

we should bring in a director of football (Dalglish or equivolent)

What does a director of football actually do ? does he vet/oversee all the managers decisions ? (Can you see any self respecting manager living with that ?)   and why Dalglish ? if Dalglish fails to fit the template who are the (sic)

"... equivolent"

  alternatives ?