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Hopefully no chance of McClaren getting the job, MON always gets mentioned for top jobs but never gets one, Hodgson not sure he has won enough, leaving Kenny or Mourinho ........ either would do.   

If City get fourth and Chelsea win the league it's likely Mancini and Ancelotti will remain in post. Assuming Ferguson and Wenger don't leave we're the only show in town if Mourinho really wants to return to the Premiership. Is he likely to be tempted by Madrid though? Are we too big a risk for him to take? Is he a longterm solution or will he get bored, fallout with the board/owners and leave in a couple of seasons? He would certainly be one of a few managers who could keep our world class players at Anfield.

The manager is just 1 aspect. The players themselves have said we need better players so it's really down to what happens with the new buyer that will dictate if they stay or go. The manager is important too but id say not as important as how much we invest in the squad.

In the case of Mourinho he wouldn't even bother coming here if he didn't have a fair bit to spend in the first place.

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What happens if we get new owners, but they don't fancy paying Rafa £16million to leave, but don't want to give him £100million for transfers either. We are then stuck with a manager that the board don't want, that probably wouldn't want to be here and no funds being made available.

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What happens if we get new owners, but they don't fancy paying Rafa £16million to leave, but don't want to give him £100million for transfers either. We are then stuck with a manager that the board don't want, that probably wouldn't want to be here and no funds being made available.

I very much doubt any new owner would go ahead and pay 500Mil or whatever the reserve price is only to refuse to pay 16Mil to pay off the manager (assuming he isn't in their plans).

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What happens if we get new owners, but they don't fancy paying Rafa £16million to leave, but don't want to give him £100million for transfers either. We are then stuck with a manager that the board don't want, that probably wouldn't want to be here and no funds being made available.

I very much doubt any new owner would go ahead and pay 500Mil or whatever the reserve price is only to refuse to pay 16Mil to pay off the manager (assuming he isn't in their plans).

Would Hicks or Gillett have paid him £16million ..... no. Anyone we get may be just as bad (or even worse) mate. See us as a cash cow that once the stadium is built they can milk for every last penny.

Even if they arn't they won't have acquired their fortune by giving £16million away for nothing mate.

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What happens if we get new owners, but they don't fancy paying Rafa £16million to leave, but don't want to give him £100million for transfers either. We are then stuck with a manager that the board don't want, that probably wouldn't want to be here and no funds being made available.

I very much doubt any new owner would go ahead and pay 500Mil or whatever the reserve price is only to refuse to pay 16Mil to pay off the manager (assuming he isn't in their plans).

Would Hicks or Gillett have paid him £16million ..... no. Anyone we get may be just as bad (or even worse) mate. See us as a cash cow that once the stadium is built they can milk for every last penny.

Even if they arn't they won't have acquired their fortune by giving £16million away for nothing mate.

Hicks and Gillette don't have any money to give so they are just probably looking to sell asap so the new owner can deal with Rafa.

But I really don't think any new owner will come in and not pay him if he wants to get rid of him. It wouldn't make any sense. Do you really think we would get someone in even skinter than these 2 that they can't even pay off 16mil for a the manager? I don't think Martin Broughton and the others would even accept a bid if they couldn't stump up that sort of money when needed.

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What happens if we get new owners, but they don't fancy paying Rafa £16million to leave, but don't want to give him £100million for transfers either. We are then stuck with a manager that the board don't want, that probably wouldn't want to be here and no funds being made available.

I very much doubt any new owner would go ahead and pay 500Mil or whatever the reserve price is only to refuse to pay 16Mil to pay off the manager (assuming he isn't in their plans).

Would Hicks or Gillett have paid him £16million ..... no. Anyone we get may be just as bad (or even worse) mate. See us as a cash cow that once the stadium is built they can milk for every last penny.

Even if they arn't they won't have acquired their fortune by giving £16million away for nothing mate.

Hicks and Gillette don't have any money to give so they are just probably looking to sell asap so the new owner can deal with Rafa.

But I really don't think any new owner will come in and not pay him if he wants to get rid of him. It wouldn't make any sense. Do you really think we would get someone in even skinter than these 2 that they can't even pay off 16mil for a the manager? I don't think Martin Broughton and the others would even accept a bid if they couldn't stump up that sort of money when needed.

There is  big difference between CAN'T and WON'T Bav

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What happens if we get new owners, but they don't fancy paying Rafa £16million to leave, but don't want to give him £100million for transfers either. We are then stuck with a manager that the board don't want, that probably wouldn't want to be here and no funds being made available.

I very much doubt any new owner would go ahead and pay 500Mil or whatever the reserve price is only to refuse to pay 16Mil to pay off the manager (assuming he isn't in their plans).

Would Hicks or Gillett have paid him £16million ..... no. Anyone we get may be just as bad (or even worse) mate. See us as a cash cow that once the stadium is built they can milk for every last penny.

Even if they arn't they won't have acquired their fortune by giving £16million away for nothing mate.

Hicks and Gillette don't have any money to give so they are just probably looking to sell asap so the new owner can deal with Rafa.

But I really don't think any new owner will come in and not pay him if he wants to get rid of him. It wouldn't make any sense. Do you really think we would get someone in even skinter than these 2 that they can't even pay off 16mil for a the manager? I don't think Martin Broughton and the others would even accept a bid if they couldn't stump up that sort of money when needed.

There is  big difference between CAN'T and WON'T Bav

Yes your right but do you really think we are going to get in another owner like these 2? I doubt it. They have to have to get the stadium built and put money into the team right. If they can't at least fulfil those 2 critera they are unlikely to be successful in any bid for the club as it will be obvious they can't take the club forward. If it came to it any new owner would have that money but Benitez has a proven track record in Europe so it would be good to give him another year but with whatever money he wants.

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Yes your right but do you really think we are going to get in another owner like these 2? I doubt it. They have to have to get the stadium built and put money into the team right. If they can't at least fulfil those 2 critera they are unlikely to be successful in any bid for the club as it will be obvious they can't take the club forward. If it came to it any new owner would have that money but Benitez has a proven track record in Europe so it would be good to give him another year but with whatever money he wants.

I hope not Bav, but who knows. Twit and tw@t will just sell to whoever offers the most money, and I can't honestly see what our new Chairman can do about it?   

He can agree to sell to 10 people who would take the club forward, and T&Twill just say they arn't offering enough and will sell to the b@stard who just wants to rip us off but offers 2p more.

I wouldn't trust Rafa to spend my £100million mate

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Yes your right but do you really think we are going to get in another owner like these 2? I doubt it. They have to have to get the stadium built and put money into the team right. If they can't at least fulfil those 2 critera they are unlikely to be successful in any bid for the club as it will be obvious they can't take the club forward. If it came to it any new owner would have that money but Benitez has a proven track record in Europe so it would be good to give him another year but with whatever money he wants.

I hope not Bav, but who knows. Twit and tw@t will just sell to whoever offers the most money, and I can't honestly see what our new Chairman can do about it?   

He can agree to sell to 10 people who would take the club forward, and T&Twill just say they arn't offering enough and will sell to the b@stard who just wants to rip us off but offers 2p more.

I wouldn't trust Rafa to spend my £100million mate

I might be wrong but I don't think Hicks and Gillette have final say on the sale any more. It's split between Broughton, Chris Purslow, Ian Ayre and Barcap. Twit and have also lost their right to veto any bid and have given power to the bank to oversee the sale so any bid will be checked and will go through Broughton and Purslow. In short I think it's safe to say twit and won't be able to do what Moores and Parry done.

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Yes your right but do you really think we are going to get in another owner like these 2? I doubt it. They have to have to get the stadium built and put money into the team right. If they can't at least fulfil those 2 critera they are unlikely to be successful in any bid for the club as it will be obvious they can't take the club forward. If it came to it any new owner would have that money but Benitez has a proven track record in Europe so it would be good to give him another year but with whatever money he wants.

I hope not Bav, but who knows. Twit and tw@t will just sell to whoever offers the most money, and I can't honestly see what our new Chairman can do about it?   

He can agree to sell to 10 people who would take the club forward, and T&Twill just say they arn't offering enough and will sell to the b@stard who just wants to rip us off but offers 2p more.

I wouldn't trust Rafa to spend my £100million mate

I might be wrong but I don't think Hicks and Gillette have final say on the sale any more. It's split between Broughton, Chris Purslow, Ian Ayre and Barcap. Twit and have also lost their right to veto any bid and have given power to the bank to oversee the sale so any bid will be checked and will go through Broughton and Purslow. In short I think it's safe to say twit and won't be able to do what Moores and Parry done.

So how can Hicks say he wants £800million if he has no say? There is no way he would allow anyone else to set the price mate, or they could sell the club for £200million tomorrow. He will hang on till January if he doesn't get the right offer, and then refinance with another bank if necessary.

Decisions AT the club are decided by the board, the price OF the club is still up to T&T as far as I am aware.

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Yes your right but do you really think we are going to get in another owner like these 2? I doubt it. They have to have to get the stadium built and put money into the team right. If they can't at least fulfil those 2 critera they are unlikely to be successful in any bid for the club as it will be obvious they can't take the club forward. If it came to it any new owner would have that money but Benitez has a proven track record in Europe so it would be good to give him another year but with whatever money he wants.

I hope not Bav, but who knows. Twit and tw@t will just sell to whoever offers the most money, and I can't honestly see what our new Chairman can do about it?   

He can agree to sell to 10 people who would take the club forward, and T&Twill just say they arn't offering enough and will sell to the b@stard who just wants to rip us off but offers 2p more.

I wouldn't trust Rafa to spend my £100million mate

I might be wrong but I don't think Hicks and Gillette have final say on the sale any more. It's split between Broughton, Chris Purslow, Ian Ayre and Barcap. Twit and have also lost their right to veto any bid and have given power to the bank to oversee the sale so any bid will be checked and will go through Broughton and Purslow. In short I think it's safe to say twit and won't be able to do what Moores and Parry done.

So how can Hicks say he wants £800million if he has no say? There is no way he would allow anyone else to set the price mate, or they could sell the club for £200million tomorrow. He will hang on till January if he doesn't get the right offer, and then refinance with another bank if necessary.

Decisions AT the club are decided by the board, the price OF the club is still up to T&T as far as I am aware.

Have a look a few pages back. I know it sounds wierd but im sure thats the situation now that they have lost their right to veto any deal. The bank have set a reserve price, Hicks was just saying that so that any bidders bid close to that valuation. He knows full well he isn't going to get that but he will try to max it out anyway.

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We will just have to wait and see mate. I believe Hicks IS bluffing about the price, but I don't believe he will allow anyone else to set the price.

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i wonder if they regret ever getting involved in the club, probably not if they make a lot of money from it, but with all the negative press there getting will it be worth it in the end, i doubt we`ll ever forget what they done to us and ive no doubt we`ll inform others of what there like in whatever they do in the future.

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Rafael Benitez threatening Liverpool FC walkout as Juventus lie in wait
by Richard Buxton. Published Sat 01 May 2010 16:39,

Rafael Benitez is threatening to walk out on Liverpool after confiding in friends that he is growing increasingly annoyed at the club's decline under its current ownership.
A lack of progress on the pitch since the takeover of George Gillett and Tom Hicks in 2007 is at the heart of the Spaniard's frustrations in addtion to the failure of Reds chiefs to consult him over first team issues and offer public support following speculation surrounding his future.

Club representatives approached Real Madrid last week over the prospect of signing Rafael van der Vaart, without the manager's knowledge with Juventus currently standing by with an offer that will end Benitez's Anfield nightmare.

The Italian giants are hoping to capitalise on the former Valencia coach's displeasure and are confident that a three-year contract, worth €5million per annum, and a summer warchest of £60million will be enough to lure him to Turin.

Benitez would waiver a £16million pay-off if he walked out on his current deal, which expires in 2014, in favour of a move to Serie A but is understood to be reluctant to allow the club to profit from his departure.

Ahead of tomorrow's final home game of the season against Chelsea, the Kop boss revealed that he had received offers from several clubs last year but chose to remain with Liverpool because of the strong bond he feels with the supporters.

He said: “I decided to stay last year because of the fans and for one year I have been working very hard, trying to do my best and we will see what happens in the future, because Sunday’s game against Chelsea is the future now.

“The fans are the main thing, the best thing that the club has. I gave my word because of them. I have had massive offers over the last year and I decided to stay because of them."

However many are seeing the visit of Carlo Ancelotti's side, which could decide the fate of this season's Premier League title, as Benitez's final bow at Anfield with his plan to take the club forward hitting a dead end.