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[Reg]

You wont be the only one mate, the Magic Roundabout fourm has mods that stand up for principles.

[account deleted by request]

Yet more moaning and groaning about others posts, you're fecking pathetic. Either try posting your opinion on football, or if thats too much for you maybe just stick to watching the magic roundabout. I think thats suits you better anyway.

[Owzat]

^ what he said. I'm fed up of those members on here constantly having snipes at other members, about time the mods starting clamping down on it even if it doesn't involve name calling because it is still abuse - maybe lame, pathetic abuse but nonetheless it is still derogatory and unwelcome.

[zarababe]

You know what... I lurve Rafa Benitez, I think he is truly pasionate about our club, has learnt the history and traditions and knows full well the burdens that go with being associated with such an insititution.

I admit that I find it hard to criticise him, because I know he wants LFC to be the best and has done much to move this club on, managerially though the academny, bringing together a world class spine and of course winning the CL with 'that' team. Last year was indeed the prelude to something great this year and that has not happened - last year too Rafa was at fault for some of the tactics he employed and decisions he made re: subs and resting players. This season has been appalling as a campaign and I wish for a clear slate so we can begin again.

But you know what, I still lurve Rafa because I know he wants the best for the club - under difficult circumstances working under H&G, easliy causes off the field distractions, when promises re: transfer kitty and sale of players are not followed through it is demoralising and clearly affects moral at all levels.

So I say today - yes I want Rafa Benitez to be Manager - but I also want Liverpool Football Club to be backed by owners who will elevate us back to where most of us want to be - and it may be that Rafa has done all he can, perhaps he's losing interest or his head has been turned - If Rafa left, I'd be truly gutted (sob sob) , but...  more than that I'd look for a manager who could lead us to the holy grail and that will be the true test of the new owners, retaining Rafa and arming him with the ammunition to sign those 2 or 3 class players that can make us dream AGAIN and attain those dreams, or recruit the man who can lead us to greatness again.

I apologise to those I may have offended, perhaps questionining peoples love for our club in there 'fed-upness with Rafa', for after all that is what binds us all together our club - but in Rafa I believe and today and in the future he has my support as manager of Liverpool Football Club - hopwver long that tenure will be !

[maguskwt]

You know what... I lurve Rafa Benitez, I think he is truly pasionate about our club, has learnt the history and traditions and knows full well the burdens that go with being associated with such an insititution.

I admit that I find it hard to criticise him, because I know he wants LFC to be the best and has done much to move this club on, managerially though the academny, bringing together a world class spine and of course winning the CL with 'that' team. Last year was indeed the prelude to something great this year and that has not happened - last year too Rafa was at fault for some of the tactics he employed and decisions he made re: subs and resting players. This season has been appalling as a campaign and I wish for a clear slate so we can begin again.

But you know what, I still lurve Rafa because I know he wants the best for the club - under difficult circumstances working under H&G, easliy causes off the field distractions, when promises re: transfer kitty and sale of players are not followed through it is demoralising and clearly affects moral at all levels.

So I say today - yes I want Rafa Benitez to be Manager - but I also want Liverpool Football Club to be backed by owners who will elevate us back to where most of us want to be - and it may be that Rafa has done all he can, perhaps he's losing interest or his head has been turned - If Rafa left, I'd be truly gutted (sob sob) , but...  more than that I'd look for a manager who could lead us to the holy grail and that will be the true test of the new owners, retaining Rafa and arming him with the ammunition to sign those 2 or 3 class players that can make us dream AGAIN and attain those dreams, or recruit the man who can lead us to greatness again.

I apologise to those I may have offended, perhaps questionining peoples love for our club in there 'fed-upness with Rafa', for after all that is what binds us all together our club - but in Rafa I believe and today and in the future he has my support as manager of Liverpool Football Club - hopwver long that tenure will be !

good post zara

[dawson99]

You know what... I lurve Rafa Benitez, I think he is truly pasionate about our club

I admit that I find it hard to criticise him, because I know he wants LFC to be the best and has done much to move this club on, managerially though the academny,

Can I just ask about these 2 points... where do you think the passion is?


and the academy, will it ever give us anyone we will actually use in a game?

Id personally say the 2 main problems I have with Rafa is that he is not passionate enough and hes fecked up the academy with wayyyy too many foreign youngsters who end up knowhere

[account deleted by request]

You know what... I lurve Rafa Benitez, I think he is truly pasionate about our club, has learnt the history and traditions and knows full well the burdens that go with being associated with such an insititution.

I admit that I find it hard to criticise him, because I know he wants LFC to be the best and has done much to move this club on, managerially though the academny, bringing together a world class spine and of course winning the CL with 'that' team. Last year was indeed the prelude to something great this year and that has not happened - last year too Rafa was at fault for some of the tactics he employed and decisions he made re: subs and resting players. This season has been appalling as a campaign and I wish for a clear slate so we can begin again.

But you know what, I still lurve Rafa because I know he wants the best for the club - under difficult circumstances working under H&G, easliy causes off the field distractions, when promises re: transfer kitty and sale of players are not followed through it is demoralising and clearly affects moral at all levels.

So I say today - yes I want Rafa Benitez to be Manager - but I also want Liverpool Football Club to be backed by owners who will elevate us back to where most of us want to be - and it may be that Rafa has done all he can, perhaps he's losing interest or his head has been turned - If Rafa left, I'd be truly gutted (sob sob) , but...  more than that I'd look for a manager who could lead us to the holy grail and that will be the true test of the new owners, retaining Rafa and arming him with the ammunition to sign those 2 or 3 class players that can make us dream AGAIN and attain those dreams, or recruit the man who can lead us to greatness again.

I apologise to those I may have offended, perhaps questionining peoples love for our club in there 'fed-upness with Rafa', for after all that is what binds us all together our club - but in Rafa I believe and today and in the future he has my support as manager of Liverpool Football Club - hopwver long that tenure will be !

good post

[maguskwt]

You know what... I lurve Rafa Benitez, I think he is truly pasionate about our club

I admit that I find it hard to criticise him, because I know he wants LFC to be the best and has done much to move this club on, managerially though the academny,

Can I just ask about these 2 points... where do you think the passion is?


and the academy, will it ever give us anyone we will actually use in a game?

Id personally say the 2 main problems I have with Rafa is that he is not passionate enough and hes fecked up the academy with wayyyy too many foreign youngsters who end up knowhere

Didn't we win the reserves league recently?   

[dawson99]

You know what... I lurve Rafa Benitez, I think he is truly pasionate about our club

I admit that I find it hard to criticise him, because I know he wants LFC to be the best and has done much to move this club on, managerially though the academny,

Can I just ask about these 2 points... where do you think the passion is?


and the academy, will it ever give us anyone we will actually use in a game?

Id personally say the 2 main problems I have with Rafa is that he is not passionate enough and hes fecked up the academy with wayyyy too many foreign youngsters who end up knowhere

Didn't we win the reserves league recently?   

Reserve league and youth league are comepltely different mate

we buy hundreds of youth players, never to be seen again

[bigmick]

You know what... I lurve Rafa Benitez, I think he is truly pasionate about our club, has learnt the history and traditions and knows full well the burdens that go with being associated with such an insititution.

I admit that I find it hard to criticise him, because I know he wants LFC to be the best and has done much to move this club on, managerially though the academny, bringing together a world class spine and of course winning the CL with 'that' team. Last year was indeed the prelude to something great this year and that has not happened - last year too Rafa was at fault for some of the tactics he employed and decisions he made re: subs and resting players. This season has been appalling as a campaign and I wish for a clear slate so we can begin again.

But you know what, I still lurve Rafa because I know he wants the best for the club - under difficult circumstances working under H&G, easliy causes off the field distractions, when promises re: transfer kitty and sale of players are not followed through it is demoralising and clearly affects moral at all levels.

So I say today - yes I want Rafa Benitez to be Manager - but I also want Liverpool Football Club to be backed by owners who will elevate us back to where most of us want to be - and it may be that Rafa has done all he can, perhaps he's losing interest or his head has been turned - If Rafa left, I'd be truly gutted (sob sob) , but...  more than that I'd look for a manager who could lead us to the holy grail and that will be the true test of the new owners, retaining Rafa and arming him with the ammunition to sign those 2 or 3 class players that can make us dream AGAIN and attain those dreams, or recruit the man who can lead us to greatness again.

I apologise to those I may have offended, perhaps questionining peoples love for our club in there 'fed-upness with Rafa', for after all that is what binds us all together our club - but in Rafa I believe and today and in the future he has my support as manager of Liverpool Football Club - hopwver long that tenure will be !

Good post that Zara, well said.

If as seems likely Rafa stays and is our manager next season, everybody on this forum and Worldwide who is a Liverpool fan will hope he has a successful campaign. That applies whether people go to the matches, watch it at home or listen to it on the radio. Everybody on here wants Liverpool to win, and if Rafa is the manager everyone wants him to win as well. Sometimes we could all do with remembering that, me included.

Well said anyway.

[teamleader1]

You know what... I lurve Rafa Benitez, I think he is truly pasionate about our club, has learnt the history and traditions and knows full well the burdens that go with being associated with such an insititution.

I admit that I find it hard to criticise him, because I know he wants LFC to be the best and has done much to move this club on, managerially though the academny, bringing together a world class spine and of course winning the CL with 'that' team. Last year was indeed the prelude to something great this year and that has not happened - last year too Rafa was at fault for some of the tactics he employed and decisions he made re: subs and resting players. This season has been appalling as a campaign and I wish for a clear slate so we can begin again.

But you know what, I still lurve Rafa because I know he wants the best for the club - under difficult circumstances working under H&G, easliy causes off the field distractions, when promises re: transfer kitty and sale of players are not followed through it is demoralising and clearly affects moral at all levels.

So I say today - yes I want Rafa Benitez to be Manager - but I also want Liverpool Football Club to be backed by owners who will elevate us back to where most of us want to be - and it may be that Rafa has done all he can, perhaps he's losing interest or his head has been turned - If Rafa left, I'd be truly gutted (sob sob) , but...  more than that I'd look for a manager who could lead us to the holy grail and that will be the true test of the new owners, retaining Rafa and arming him with the ammunition to sign those 2 or 3 class players that can make us dream AGAIN and attain those dreams, or recruit the man who can lead us to greatness again.

I apologise to those I may have offended, perhaps questionining peoples love for our club in there 'fed-upness with Rafa', for after all that is what binds us all together our club - but in Rafa I believe and today and in the future he has my support as manager of Liverpool Football Club - hopwver long that tenure will be !

Good post that Zara, well said.

If as seems likely Rafa stays and is our manager next season, everybody on this forum and Worldwide who is a Liverpool fan will hope he has a successful campaign. That applies whether people go to the matches, watch it at home or listen to it on the radio. Everybody on here wants Liverpool to win, and if Rafa is the manager everyone wants him to win as well. Sometimes we could all do with remembering that, me included.

Well said anyway.

The words; Flogging a dead horse springs to mind.

Nice man,Does his best (in his own mind)

Is it good enough for LFC? - not in my opinion.

Will he ever change? - not on the evidence of the last 6 years.

Can we do better than him? - I think so.

Can we afford to take the chance of him doing the same again next season, considering the emergence of City & Spurs?
- NO!

For me keeping Rafa is a gamble to far, first and formost I support LFC and not Rafa as a person.

[bigmick]

Mate my choice would be to get a new manager as well, you probably already knew that. I think a better manager would have had us challenging for the title this season, and I'd move heaven and earth to get Mourinho if it was me.

That said, it isn't me and I was just making the point that it looks very much like Benitez will be in charge next season. I share many of your misgivings, however we obviously all hope that he comes through given he's the Liverpool manager. Zarah's post struck a chord with me, because having been accused of allsorts because I don't believe in the manager, it seems that finally someone was prepared to accept that it is possible not to buy into the Rafalution but to still want whats best for the club. S@int has made the point many times that we ALL want the club to prosper, we ALL want whats best, we simply disagree on the best way to get there.

As I said, if Benitez is to be the manager next season (and he will be for the reasons I've stated before), then nobody hopes more than me that he manages to make a success of it.

[teamleader1]

Mate my choice would be to get a new manager as well, you probably already knew that. I think a better manager would have had us challenging for the title this season, and I'd move heaven and earth to get Mourinho if it was me.

That said, it isn't me and I was just making the point that it looks very much like Benitez will be in charge next season. I share many of your misgivings, however we obviously all hope that he comes through given he's the Liverpool manager. Zarah's post struck a chord with me, because having been accused of allsorts because I don't believe in the manager, it seems that finally someone was prepared to accept that it is possible not to buy into the Rafalution but to still want whats best for the club. S@int has made the point many times that we ALL want the club to prosper, we ALL want whats best, we simply disagree on the best way to get there.

As I said, if Benitez is to be the manager next season (and he will be for the reasons I've stated before), then nobody hopes more than me that he manages to make a success of it.

I know where your coming from m8
and I would love to see him bring us great success by playing top class attacking football, but then again I would like to win the lottery.
I would live in hope and support him if hes still here next season.
But I'm being honest when I say he's given me a lot more reasons for concern than filling me with confidence about him continuing.

I also think that if we do get new owners they will make a change, Rafa has to much baggage.

[Igor Zidane]

Mate my choice would be to get a new manager as well, you probably already knew that. I think a better manager would have had us challenging for the title this season, and I'd move heaven and earth to get Mourinho if it was me.

That said, it isn't me and I was just making the point that it looks very much like Benitez will be in charge next season. I share many of your misgivings, however we obviously all hope that he comes through given he's the Liverpool manager. Zarah's post struck a chord with me, because having been accused of allsorts because I don't believe in the manager, it seems that finally someone was prepared to accept that it is possible not to buy into the Rafalution but to still want whats best for the club. S@int has made the point many times that we ALL want the club to prosper, we ALL want whats best, we simply disagree on the best way to get there.

As I said, if Benitez is to be the manager next season (and he will be for the reasons I've stated before), then nobody hopes more than me that he manages to make a success of it.

Good post mick , however i think the opposite of you . As i want Rafa as our manager ,because i think the man is a genius and will go on to win us lots of trophies with the right backing at all levels in the club and the right investement . I also think there's noone better ,we have the best man for the job (just my opinion mind ) and when he leaves it will be a sad day in my book .

Like i said though i'm of the opposite opinion on wether he'll stay . I don't, i think he'll go . There are a number of reason's for this ,but the backing of the fans who do or don't go the match isn't one of them .
He'll go because he's had ONE bad season , he doesn't have the backing of the senior players (not the foriegn ones ) , there are oppotunities being offered at MADRID and Juve  ,ie new projects . Wether we have new owners or not come next season the board will want a change .

He needs to get back to being just a manger again and not a politician or referee in a boxing match , HE needs stability aswell and he needs to get back to being the RAFA we all the love and that's the tactician and wnner that he is . He needs to leave for his own sanity and peace of mind . I i don't blame him one IOTA.

Now will this make me support LFC less , will it make me spit in the eye of the new manger , will it make me want to abuse you and saint because you want him out . No, not a chance i support LFC and noone is bigger . Not the owners not the manager and not the fans . I will give my full backing to the new manager as much as i've backed Rafa . This is what sets us apart from other supporters . The king is dead , long live the king and all that .

Just on a side note mick ,i feel that your belittleing my support of the club sometimes when you post stuff like this .


"God only knows what he'd think if he logged on here. Fans saying they won't support the club anymore if someone who they don't like becomes the manager, people saying that Neil Warnock is the only one who would manage the club should Rafa leave, people saying that as long as we have the current owners then we cannot possibly challenge for honours, people saying that unless we sign the likes of David Villa and David Silva and God only knows who else, we've no right to expect to beat teams like Reading."




Now i peronally think that we are fecked as a club whomever is in charge next season as long as these two owners are here . It's my opinion and it's that strong that i've given up alot of my homelife marching and handing out leaflets and righting on beachballs and convincing and talking to people about it . I don't just post on the internet about it and sit back i believe with all my heart that our owners are behind everything that's wrong with our club and i feel a little angry and hurt when it's dismissed and belittle in posts such as your one .

[account deleted by request]

Good post Igor, from what I have read today Juventus have shifted targets to Mancini and Real Madrid have no interest in Rafa , so you could finish up lucky on that score mate. Whether you will be as lucky in getting the two tw@ts out the door seems to be becoming more questionable with every fecking article I read. Surely the banks must have demanded some sort of guarantee as to what price the club should be put up for sale for...... otherwise they may cling on till next January.