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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:03 am

parchpea wrote:If the Liverpool managers job is available they will be queing a mile long to take it and thats the best managers in the world. Honest to God we have had some bad times of late but even that will not stop us appointing a top, top class manager. Rafa aint my cup of tea but hes stuck in there because he knows damn well is a coveted position and hes on a mint contract. For all his faults I give him his due he knows hes at  a top club and is reluctant to move on. Fear not that we will have to settle for second best on the managerial front because despite the turmoil Liverpool FC will have the pick of the managerial talent make no mistake.

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Postby dawson99 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:30 am

I saw the clip of him falling over the ball last night, now I want him to stay again... I know, my criteria for a manager isn't the best, but he made me chuckle
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Postby leep33 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:32 am

Spot on that, if Rafa was to leave which i think unlikely especially with the possibility of a takeover, then we would get a top manager.
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Postby bigmick » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:50 am

Course we'd get a top manager. Don't let these negativos and manic depressives bring the whole forum down into their pit of despair. Fat Sam :laugh:

All managers worldwide would be interested in the job, even the most special. That said, they'll be disappointed because the current manager isn't going anywhere, he isn't daft. Neither is the new chairman daft either. I did note he said Rafa had his support and there'd be no need for player sales. The two go hand in hand as I've said for a while now. Rafa bought em, so keep Rafa and you avoid the scenario of having a new manager tell you they're not up to it and having to replace them all with more expensive players.

Fat Sam though. These are the same people who say if such and such becomes the manager then they'll stop supporting the club, then they lecture everyone else about loyalty :laugh:

Let the positivos rule, we have got a good team and we ought to challenge for honours next season, new owners or not.
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Postby Penguins » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:38 am

I'd like to have what you are smoking...

If we do nothing to the squad we have now for next season it'll be more of the same. Especially since there is a WC this summer which means less rest for our key players.

Torres for example will probably miss around 2 months next season again and we'll be relying on Ngog for the goals.
City and Spurs will invest even more and one of the will have the lure of CL football. All factors that will work to our disadvantage.

But please, keep on believing any manager will come no matter if we are in the conference with no money cause they know what a great club we are... :no
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Postby Ben Patrick » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:01 am

I know some people are getting fed up with micks sarcastic posts but what he is saying is true.

he is criticised for being negative yet the people who do it are the ones that are stating that we are doomed and cant attract a top manager etc.

Its ironic to put it mildly.
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Postby bigmick » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:15 am

Penguins wrote:I'd like to have what you are smoking...

If we do nothing to the squad we have now for next season it'll be more of the same. Especially since there is a WC this summer which means less rest for our key players.

Torres for example will probably miss around 2 months next season again and we'll be relying on Ngog for the goals.
City and Spurs will invest even more and one of the will have the lure of CL football. All factors that will work to our disadvantage.

But please, keep on believing any manager will come no matter if we are in the conference with no money cause they know what a great club we are... :no

Look if you want to engage in a group wrist slashing session, do you really have to do it on here? There are plenty of bedfellows around here for you to choose from, pm a couple of them, get yourself some Bauhaus EP's to listen to and go for your lives.

Just because you have lowered your sights, your expectations and your opinion of the club to the extent that you think that mid table mediocrity is all we have a right to hope for it doesn't mean the rest of us have to buy into your nonsense. You may think that being involved in a year long tussle with Birmingham is par or the course under the circumstances, getting a draw at Reading cause for celebration, losing the replay no more than we can expect, but forgive some of us if we dare to set our sights higher.

Some of us think Reina, Masherano, Gerrard and Torres are World Class players. Some of us think Carragher, Agger, Johnson and the rest ae very good players. Our memory is long enough to remember two weeks back when we hammered Benfica at home 4-1 in a must win Europa league cup match. We are a good team and we can beat anybody (some of us even remember last season when we beat the Mancs and Chelsea Home and Away).

You may think we're rubbish mate, and although you're entitled to your opinion forgive some of us if we don't buy into it. The owners are important, but as long as we don't actually select them for the first team this group of players is good enough to challenge for the title in my view. I'm positive, you should ty it yourself sometime.
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Postby parchpea » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:26 am

We need to re build the team theres no question and I personally would like to see a complete change in direction by bringing a new management team. Thats not to say it will happen, and frankly I dont think it will, but that aside to suggest Liverpool FC would have to take on a second class manager is surely taking things too far. With the news yesterday and the possibilty of a new dawn breaking its possibly now a very exciting time for the club after all the turmoil and the managers job will be very attractive. Im very confident that should a decision be made by new owners to replace the manger they will be selecting from the very highest calibre of candidates.
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:35 am

The one thing we dont need to do is rebuild the team! we need a striker, and we need to play better football, the squad we got aint actually that bad. maybe a left wniger, but i been typing that for years now
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Postby redtrader74 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:42 am

I don't believe that we require a complete rebuild of the squad. We need a decent second striker, someone like Darren Bent would have helped this season, and a versatile forward, Milner springs to mind, and they would not have broken the bank. Alonso not being in the side has finally shown a lot of armchair supporters what an influence he was on the side, you don't get to see what he does 'off the ball' from watching the game on a grainy stream.

I am one of Rafa's biggest supporters but its clear that he has made some poor decisions this season, we have been far more cautious than ever and its allowed our defence and keeper to be become overexposed. I do not want to see Torres playing up front on his own, or in OUR box for a corner. He loses sharpness and then gets injured, and imho its down to the way he is beng asked to play. That said one poor season is not enough reason to release a manager who has won us trophies and taken our European standing back to where it was 25 years ago.
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Postby leep33 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:27 pm

I agree two or three world class additions (striker and winger) and we will once again be challenging for the title.
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Postby tonyeh » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:25 pm

bigmick wrote:...get yourself some Bauhaus EP's to listen to and go for your lives.

Now Mick, there's no need to bring Bauhaus into this.

They made some fine chairs in their time. Not depressing at all.




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Postby zarababe » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:28 pm

bigmick wrote:Course we'd get a top manager. Don't let these negativos and manic depressives bring the whole forum down into their pit of despair. Fat Sam :laugh:

All managers worldwide would be interested in the job, even the most special. That said, they'll be disappointed because the current manager isn't going anywhere, he isn't daft. Neither is the new chairman daft either. I did note he said Rafa had his support and there'd be no need for player sales. The two go hand in hand as I've said for a while now. Rafa bought em, so keep Rafa and you avoid the scenario of having a new manager tell you they're not up to it and having to replace them all with more expensive players.

Fat Sam though. These are the same people who say if such and such becomes the manager then they'll stop supporting the club, then they lecture everyone else about loyalty :laugh:

Let the positivos rule, we have got a good team and we ought to challenge for honours next season, new owners or not.

There are soem people (are there?) .. no there is me who says Mourinhio disrespected Rafa Benitez when he won the CL dissed Gerrard for choosing Liverpool FC over Chelsea and so, while LFC would always be in my heart, there are some principles that are overwhelming enough to arouse a stand .. ( though my love of LFC means I will support the manager - so I'm probably o weak on that front too) - put it this way I don't want Mourhinio - for me it's like selling your soul to H&G..

So while Tom and George might not be in the starting eleven, they are nevertheless the cause of the basement shopping market Rafa is reduced to wheeling and dealing in, getting it  right sometimes, but wrong most cos you get what ya pay for..  and so with there caniving (spl) and broken promises - of course there should not be an impact on the manager and team  :shifty 

Negativos - where are ya  :upside:
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Postby tonyeh » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:29 pm

dawson99 wrote:The one thing we dont need to do is rebuild the team! we need a striker, and we need to play better football, the squad we got aint actually that bad. maybe a left wniger, but i been typing that for years now

What we need is a manager that can work with the great team we already have.

I look at what Harry's done with Spurs, a team that were fighting for their lives last year and who are now in with a shout for CL football and all with relatively the same team composition.

Benitez, on the other hand, has our top stars looking at the dugout, shaking their heads and going WTF?

The contrast is unbelievable.
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Postby Greavesie » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:33 pm

tonyeh wrote:
dawson99 wrote:The one thing we dont need to do is rebuild the team! we need a striker, and we need to play better football, the squad we got aint actually that bad. maybe a left wniger, but i been typing that for years now

What we need is a manager that can work with the great team we already have.

I look at what Harry's done with Spurs, a team that were fighting for their lives last year and who are now in with a shout for CL football and all with relatively the same team composition.

Benitez, on the other hand, has our top stars looking at the dugout, shaking their heads and going WTF?

The contrast is unbelievable.

Yeh and Tottenham would gladly swap places with us over the last five years. They've been fairly mediocre mate and thats a fact. Rafa has raised us to a higher level

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