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Postby Scottbot » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:52 pm

Greavesie wrote:ban him! :D

Aye lad! Ban Him! Mods?  :D

Seriously!? Alex McLeish!?

It's the dumbest idea i've heard since my mate suggested driving with our eyes closed in the middle of the night on acid when i was seventeen.
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Postby tubby » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:53 pm

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Rush Job wrote:Its Kenny and Purslow looking for a successor so if Kenny ends up in the seat it means no one was interested.

There will be LOADS of good managers interested in taking over. For starters, we have some of the world's best players and a good team. We just need fresh ideas and a fire sale with the likes of Lucas, Babel, Ngog etc.

Loads? After the way Rafa was treated no top manager would come here without proper guarantees. All Rafa wanted was assurances he could spend what he made from sales and 20mil on top. They told him yes so he signed a new contract then went back on that. Sorry mate but no other half decent manager is going to waste their time working under owners like these. There will of course be managers interested, but I think it's going to be too difficult to attract a top class continental manager.
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Postby LFC2007 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:55 pm

7_Kewell wrote:SCOTLAND needed to beat Italy to qualify for the Euros, because France were lost their last game. Maybe i went a little overboard saying France were world beaters, but nothing takes away from the fact that McLeish did a good job. He's a good manager and perfect for a club with limited funds.

For half of that campaign Walter Smith managed them (incl. another victory over France). But yes, he did a good job there nevertheless and has done so wherever he's been. Thing is, though, most of the candidates in consideration can boast a lot more than that. O'neill for instance with his various promotions, cup wins and consistent mid-table finishes at Liecester, title & cup wins and a UEFA cup final at Celtic and the very solid job he's done at Villa.

I think Lippi boasts the most impressive record; 5 serie 'A' titles, 1 UCL + 3 x RU, UEFA cup, Italian cup, World cup. Plus he's available on a free after the WC. I do find it hard to imagine him with us though as he's never managed outside of Italy, doesn't speak English and is getting on a bit, but then again I found it hard to imagine Trappatoni in the Ireland job.
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Postby Effes » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:57 pm

Scottbot wrote:It's the dumbest idea i've heard since my mate suggested driving with our eyes closed in the middle of the night on acid when i was seventeen.

If you had the engine switched off, that might have been a laugh.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:59 pm

well, according to the bookes, Martin O'Niel is favorite...but i guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:01 pm

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Igor Zidane wrote:Please don't take this the wrong way Scott , but for the first time since i can remember i'm not in the slightest interested mate . Couldn't give two fecks who are manager is next year ,because we are fecked as a club whoever it is . Soz mate .

But the football is still important Igor lad. It's the shocking season we've just had that has put our already precarious financial position into even greater focus due to the huge loss of earnings being out of Europe will cause. And if we finally get new owners in 6-8 months time then it's crucial the club/team is in half-decent shape where it matters most when that happens, and that's on the pitch.

By the looks of it we need a bit of a miracle worker who can come in and do a salvage job with not a lot of money and most likely without some of our best players. With that in mind, I think this appointment matters a great deal.

How can you say that mate? In 6 to 8 months we could have potentially lost Gerrard, Torres and Mascherano. And to be honest if the club is in a bad way then it will probably be sold quicker. Not saying for a minute encourage the sale of are star players but at this point with this 15mil figure being banded around it's hard to see them staying.

We won't get a miracle worker mate we will get a yes man who doesn't mind not having anything to spend. How many miracle workers are there even in the game? Wenger is good at balancing the books but when did they win anything recently? Can't think of too many more besides him tbh. Anyone who has won anything in the last 10 years has done so with financial muscle at their disposal. It's something we don't have right now and the focus needs to be on that. Anything else is pointless.

Bav lad, but what's the point of you, me or anybody else focusing (in here) on anything else other than who we get a s manager going forward? There's nothing to discuss on the ownership front Bav, it's that simple, or we can talk about is what complete and utter cu...n...t...s they are and tbh I think that's about the only thing this forum is unanimously in agreement on.

We may well get a yes man in terms of 'will he have any say on the futures or Gerrard, Torres and Masch'? That's unlikely I think. will he get some of that money to spend should (for instance) we sell off Gerrard and Masch? I should think he would get a decent chunk, although not all of it by any means.

If you (and others) think it's a case of 'we're utterly doomed no matter what, Rafa's gone and there's no one out there who will even look at us' then there's probably not much point being on here because it would seem there is no debate to be had anymore.
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Postby fivecups » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:03 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:SCOTLAND needed to beat Italy to qualify for the Euros, because France were lost their last game. Maybe i went a little overboard saying France were world beaters, but nothing takes away from the fact that McLeish did a good job. He's a good manager and perfect for a club with limited funds.

For half of that campaign Walter Smith managed them (incl. another victory over France). But yes, he did a good job there nevertheless and has done so wherever he's been. Thing is, though, most of the candidates in consideration can boast a lot more than that. O'neill for instance with his various promotions, cup wins and consistent mid-table finishes at Liecester, title & cup wins and a UEFA cup final at Celtic and the very solid job he's done at Villa.

I think Lippi boasts the most impressive record; 5 serie 'A' titles, 1 UCL + 3 x RU, UEFA cup, Italian cup, World cup. Plus he's available on a free after the WC. I do find it hard to imagine him with us though as he's never managed outside of Italy, doesn't speak English and is getting on a bit, but then again I found it hard to imagine Trappatoni in the Ireland job.

Remember when Rafa came there was a huge fuss about him not being able to speak English?

Anyway I'm going for Carra and Kenny. With Sammy Lee. And bringing back Phil Thompson. With Toshack in the background. And maybe Barnes. And Nicol. And Steve Staunton! And feckin' Souness....ha ha ha! Feckin' hell!  :D
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Postby tubby » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:04 pm

No your right that is a point to be discussed but I think at this moment im just too fed up to think that far ahead. :D
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Postby Rush Job » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:04 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Rush Job wrote:Its Kenny and Purslow looking for a successor so if Kenny ends up in the seat it means no one was interested.

There will be LOADS of good managers interested in taking over. For starters, we have some of the world's best players and a good team. We just need fresh ideas and a fire sale with the likes of Lucas, Babel, Ngog etc.

I didnt say otherwise.
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Postby Kharhaz » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:06 pm

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Kharhaz wrote:We will get someone out of work. A deal had to be worked out to oust rafa, paying another team compensation to replace him just wont happen. So to sum up, who is currently out of a job?

Scolari? Mark Hughes? Not sure who else. Probably a few more in a few weeks time as Reg said.

Which makes you wonder, is a new manager urgent (next couple of weeks) or do we wait until after the world cup?

Well we need him asap really... we want to strengthen the team so we need someone to come in and start looking at transfer targets ect... thelater we leave it we could be buggered should any big players choose to leave ect...

I dunno mate I don't really know what to think right now. Im just clutching onto the hope this was all part of a master plan for a new owner to come in and rescue us from this nightmare.

Well I would imagine if we get someone in ASAP, in wont make much difference for them to sort the players out as they would have to wait until after the world cup anyway, for our best players that is.

Like you though I am also clinging onto hope that new owners are just around the corner. This whole deal thing to me seems to be rushed through. If there are no new owners arriving soon then why not just keep rafa and save money there. As bigmick argued for.

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Postby LFC2007 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:12 pm

fivecups wrote:Remember when Rafa came there was a huge fuss about him not being able to speak English?

Anyway I'm going for Carra and Kenny. With Sammy Lee. And bringing back Phil Thompson. With Toshack in the background. And maybe Barnes. And Nicol. And Steve Staunton! And feckin' Souness....ha ha ha! Feckin' hell!  :D

:D  Listen to our Rafa at the start of Igor's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6aVtFuOUd0&feature=player_embedded I miss that Rafa  :down:
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Postby tubby » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:16 pm

fyi James McKenna from SOS is on fivelive now
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Postby tubby » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:26 pm

Some :censored: idiot on 5live saying we should go for Martinez :angry:
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Postby LFC ANIME » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:26 pm

Think someone fainted when a caller says Martinez should be the manager haha
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:30 pm

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Scottbot wrote:It's the dumbest idea i've heard since my mate suggested driving with our eyes closed in the middle of the night on acid when i was seventeen.

If you had the engine switched off, that might have been a laugh.

The engine probably was switched off! :D
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